I saw a poll about Bibi, it's amazing that his approval is at 38%, basically the same as shithole. In Israel, Bibi's party is in trouble.

A strong, unified party would be in a good position to take over after the upcoming election.

perhaps they have no historical knowledge of 'the holocaust'---
If they DID, they would see THEIR OWN NATION
committing ANOTHER in GAZA..........

Source -https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/2013/08/bill-kristol-doesnt-want-any-more-credit-sarah-palins-career/311984/


Forgot to add this...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Kristol

he said about Dems previously, and I didn't see his acknowledgement that he was wrong.

So if he helps us, great. But like MTG, I'll believe they're sincere when they show sorrow and contrition for what they have done.

--- gave the. Republican Party a good, hard bite in the ass.

.... I guess.

He helped create the fertile conditions from which Dimwit Donnie emerged. He helped create the monster that he now disavows.

F**k Bill Kristol. Choke on it, bitch.

When you receive it, sign it and keep it in a safe place.

I’m not sure we want him. Just vote blue and don’t do anything else, Billy.

I like The Bulwark, watch it all the time, because former Republicans know that the problem is Republicans and don't waste time nitpicking Democrats.

Supported and voted for Democrats in the last two elections and never lies about Democrats supposedly ignoring the working class and being bribed by billionaires and oligarchs -- that shit doesn't come from Never Trumpers who actually want and work for Republicans to lose.

Excellent point and very true!

who does lie about Dems "not supporting the working class"?

Yeah, I wonder.

Mahalo, betsuni

stop it. PNAC?? He created it.

What has he done, or is planning to do, to make amends for the havoc he helped create?

He was an architect to this mess during GW McIdiot's time & anti-O'bama during his administration.
Not going to get any pity from me.

He's one of the many right-wingers/"conservatives" who built the road to Trump, he brings no one with him, and by calling himself our name he diminishes us.

If he's willing to make phone calls to voters or send postcards, fine. But his opinion on anything weightier than the best fishing spot in his favorite stream is worthless.

I'll change my opinion if he provides dirt on people, telling what skeletons are in whose closets, and where bodies are buried. Otherwise he's just grifting for a new income stream.

none of these former (perhaps) assh*les thought through to the logical conclusion of what their actions and policies would create.

Actual Democratic Freedom Party, Bill Kristol..

Thank You!

He's akin to Liz Cheney: embracing him is more likely to cost us votes than gain any.

I've read his call-outs to fascists for a while now.

As far as I'm concerned, the only way he can reverse the damage he's spent his entire adult life contributing to is to pony up with dirt on his once-fellow Republicans and to go all-out in destroying careers. To get off the fence and expose things that will make his old friends hate him. It's not as if he was a peripheral figure--he was a major conservative political operator (and publisher of right-wing political media) for decades. The people who made up his old income stream won't have him, so he needs a new one. Will the number of voters his switch brings to the Democrats fill a school bus? And will his advertising himself as Democrat cost us more?

He's poisonous and self-serving, and needs to hand over tangible benefits before getting kudos for serving himself.

Kristol has always been a Never trumper.

And, I believe people can evolve over time.

I'm not going to turn away sincere people from our party.

There should be many others wanting to do the same thing, with or without mgaphones.

We have a whole Nation to win over to Shut Down The Nazis.

So I would tend to accept his credentials as a Democrat over someone like Fetterman, who seems to be moving in the opposite direction.

He wasn't conservative on any other issue.

He wasn't conservative on any other issue.

I can understand the urge to flee a sinking ship, but I can't forget decades of bullshit from people like him, the nonsense from them that caused this catastrophe.

As soon as the ship is out of danger, they will all be right back to their old tricks. We have let them up easy too many times. Every time we "look forward" and forgive, they abuse us again. Not this time.

He understands that in order to survive this, we have to repudiate what MAGA is about. It's going to be a hard road.

How much influence does he have over... anyone really?

Holding them close so that Iranians can't steal them.

to rub together......




Welcome to the FIGHT, Bill !!!!
I look forward to what more you have to say about it !!!!

He's not asking forgiveness and I'm not offering any. He's an intelligent person that recognizes a huge change is needed for this Country to heal. He's not switching parties to steal a political position. It's obvious he wants to influence policy from the inside. He could have just become Independent. But, he didn't choose easy. He knows the things he has said and done in the past will make the transition bumpy to say the least. I actually respect a person that knows they're lost and asks for directions. Actions speak louder than words. Let's watch and wait without allowing this to consume us. Also, maybe he knows where some of the bodies are buried.(not literally).

May he lead a large group of followers in his wake.

There’s a self-described “pro-life” magazine saying he’s flipped on abortion and LGBT issues.

FWIW, I don’t believe that you need to change on choice to be a Democrat.

Forced birth is really good for women when you come to think of it.
Climate change and environmental issues -pshaw.
Hating trump is in itself all that is needed.

And my first question was about his views on choice. But Democrats have always had an anti-choice wing but didn’t mind as long as they voted D in Congress. For a political talking head it matters much less.

Is the Democratic Party the party for neo-cons or has Kristol had a change of heart?

I really can’t tell if this change is good or not. I don’t know if the party has gotten worse or he has gotten better. I think he’s enjoyed his time in the left wing sphere and wants to stick around. There’s a bunch of people like him on the Democrats side now and many of them are in the Bukwark wing. Tim Miller, Sarah Longwell, possibly David Frum, and others. I like what some of them bring to the party but I will always be skeptical of Kristol.

Let alone any other issue. Regulation - hell no.

That is okay. Its only the only home planet we have to trash the way we or rather you trash human brains and lives the world over.