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Coventina

(29,936 posts)
Fri May 15, 2026, 05:20 PM 15 hrs ago

MAGA Melts Down Over Already Sold-Out Summer Blockbuster

The right has landed on its next Hollywood target.

The Odyssey, the forthcoming summer blockbuster from Oscar-winning director Christopher Nolan, which depicts the fictional events of the eponymous Greek epic, was the subject of a long-winded rant by Newsmax host Rob Finnerty on Thursday evening over its “rewriting of history.”

Though the Trojan War, as described in the epic, really happened, there is no evidence that any of its characters actually existed. Still, Finnerty, 44, complained on his show, “The role of Achilles will reportedly be played by Elliot Page. Looks like a guy—formerly Ellen Page, meaning the most famous warrior in history, not just Greek history—all of history—Achilles is about to be played by a transgender woman in a brand new movie.”

Elliot Page’s role in the film has not been confirmed. Other confirmed cast members include Matt Damon, Anne Hathaway, Tom Holland, Zendaya, Lupita N’yongo, Robert Pattinson, and Charlize Theron, among others.

“A woman who was definitely white is going to be played by Lupita Nyong’o,” he added. “I’ve got nothing against Lupita. But I do have a problem with the complete rewriting of history. Helen of Troy was not Black. That’s not me being mean. That’s me telling the truth. The real actual truth, which we tend to do a lot of here, and Achilles was not a five-foot-one woman, but to the Left, this is all normal.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/obsessed/maga-melts-down-over-already-sold-out-the-odyssey/

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Ummmmm

Helen of Troy was a demigoddess, the daughter of Zeus and a mortal woman.
Who knows what her skin color would have been?

Oh yeah, and she's a fictional character!

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MAGA Melts Down Over Already Sold-Out Summer Blockbuster (Original Post) Coventina 15 hrs ago OP
To be fair, he thought it was a documentary. chowder66 14 hrs ago #1
Just like Sarah Palin thought Tina Fey's character on 30 Rock thucythucy 14 hrs ago #2
Well, it all starts with believing the bible is the literal truth. Coventina 14 hrs ago #3
That, and their weird, obsessive penchant for gender issues and/or the sex lives of everyone else. the nelm 12 hrs ago #16
Who's going to tell him what color Jesus was? dem4decades 14 hrs ago #4
Facts are like Kryptonite to the right! Unrepentant Fenian 14 hrs ago #5
Hang on for a second here... jmowreader 13 hrs ago #6
Meh. People were shorter then. Led shorter lives, too. nt eppur_se_muova 13 hrs ago #7
Elliot is no Alvin York ornotna 13 hrs ago #9
Talk to fucking PEDO about "rewriting history". Real History. Cha 13 hrs ago #8
I love Christopher Nolan's films, but this time he's not fair or accurate about Greek history. From Instagram... ancianita 13 hrs ago #10
Shhhhhh!!! Homer was a woman! Just like Shakespeare! niyad 11 hrs ago #28
John fuckin Wayne swong19104 13 hrs ago #11
"But er... um... that's okay BaronChocula 13 hrs ago #14
My personal favorite is J-F-Wayne playing a Roman Centurion Seinan Sensei 12 hrs ago #25
Linda Hunt played Billy Kwan in displacedvermoter 11 hrs ago #29
The Trojan War started from a dispute between three Greek Goddesses. Collimator 13 hrs ago #12
Thank you Ray Harryhausen! BidenRocks 12 hrs ago #20
The Cyclopes Just Jerome 12 hrs ago #23
So that wasn't a champagne bottle popping? blue-wave 13 hrs ago #13
"Waaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh! BaronChocula 13 hrs ago #15
For a minute, I thought this would be about the upcoming Ml Gibson two parter Warpy 12 hrs ago #17
Well, Jesus was unlikely to have been light-skinned either, so we're even... hlthe2b 12 hrs ago #18
"You mean - Achilles didn't look like Brad Pitt!?" peppertree 12 hrs ago #19
But I do have a problem with the complete rewriting of history. patphil 12 hrs ago #21
So Ajax and Ulysses didn't exist ? dave99 12 hrs ago #22
No, they're fictional characters that may have some roots in reality, but have never been shown to actually have lived. patphil 12 hrs ago #24
Elliot is a trans man not a trans woman LearnedHand 11 hrs ago #26
Helen of Troy was hatched from an egg. yardwork 11 hrs ago #27
Hey Newsmax, go fuck yourselves! Initech 11 hrs ago #30
This is awesome SouthernIrish 10 hrs ago #31
And that other fictional character, Santa Claus is white! yellowcanine 7 hrs ago #32
the usual haters are out in full force. BlueWaveNeverEnd 5 hrs ago #33
More weeping from kairos12 1 hr ago #34

thucythucy

(9,143 posts)
2. Just like Sarah Palin thought Tina Fey's character on 30 Rock
Fri May 15, 2026, 05:53 PM
14 hrs ago

depicted Fey's actual life.

That seems a right wing thing--the inability to tell fact from fiction.

the nelm

(295 posts)
16. That, and their weird, obsessive penchant for gender issues and/or the sex lives of everyone else.
Fri May 15, 2026, 07:32 PM
12 hrs ago

It's always a given with these folk. Obsessive-compulsive, neurotic, unhinged - call it what you will.

jmowreader

(53,386 posts)
6. Hang on for a second here...
Fri May 15, 2026, 06:42 PM
13 hrs ago

You mean Christopher Nolan, who makes good movies, is going to cast someone as short as Elliot Page to play a larger-than-life character?

Cha

(320,480 posts)
8. Talk to fucking PEDO about "rewriting history". Real History.
Fri May 15, 2026, 06:52 PM
13 hrs ago

Last edited Fri May 15, 2026, 07:43 PM - Edit history (1)

ancianita

(43,334 posts)
10. I love Christopher Nolan's films, but this time he's not fair or accurate about Greek history. From Instagram...
Fri May 15, 2026, 07:00 PM
13 hrs ago
https://www.instagram.com/reel/DURGIAjCqum/?hl=en

Nolan must want to exert artistic license here, since there's no definitive historical evidence proving Homer's existence. That said, I'm still willing to see his film.

from DeepMind AI ...

Whether the poet Homer existed is unknown, a mystery known as the "Homeric Question." While traditionally regarded as the blind, 8th-century BCE author of the Iliad and Odyssey, most scholars believe the poems are products of a long oral tradition, potentially composed or compiled by multiple people rather than one individual.


Traditional View:

Ancient Greeks believed Homer was a real, blind itinerant poet from Ionia.

Modern Scholarship:
Many experts argue that the extensive, formulaic nature of the poems suggests they evolved over centuries of oral storytelling by many poets, not just one.

The Debate:
There is no definitive historical evidence proving his existence. Some argue "Homer" was a placeholder name for the tradition, while others hold that a single, foundational genius shaped the final narratives.

Alternative Theory:
Some scholars suggest the poems were written down later, possibly by a group of scholars in Athens or Alexandria, rather than by a single poet.

Ultimately, the existence of a single, historical person named Homer remains unproven

swong19104

(662 posts)
11. John fuckin Wayne
Fri May 15, 2026, 07:03 PM
13 hrs ago

Played Genghis Khan in the 1956 The Conqueror.

And Mickey Rooney as Mr Yunioshi in Breakfast At Tiffany’s.

And so on.

BaronChocula

(4,725 posts)
14. "But er... um... that's okay
Fri May 15, 2026, 07:18 PM
13 hrs ago

No one really... um... those guys were iconic actors. Uh. I believe Genghis Khan was part white I believe. Ummmmm. You had very iconic... Yeah they were white, but aren't you being racist? Why can't we be inclusive of white men. Jeez. Liberals are so intolerant!"

Seinan Sensei

(1,636 posts)
25. My personal favorite is J-F-Wayne playing a Roman Centurion
Fri May 15, 2026, 08:27 PM
12 hrs ago

Standing by Jesus, at the foot of the cross, saying
“Surely this was the son of God"

One cannot unhear that John Wayne drawl

Aw-haw

displacedvermoter

(4,974 posts)
29. Linda Hunt played Billy Kwan in
Fri May 15, 2026, 09:05 PM
11 hrs ago

The Year of Living Dangerously, won Best Supporting Actress Award in 1983. Great movie. Only person to win an Oscar for playing someone of the opposite sex. Anyways...

Collimator

(2,137 posts)
12. The Trojan War started from a dispute between three Greek Goddesses.
Fri May 15, 2026, 07:03 PM
13 hrs ago

And The Odyssey features Sirens and a Cyclops and all sorts of other mythical figures which, frankly, I don't remember. Does anyone have any strong feelings about which "race" the Cyclopses (?) were?

BidenRocks

(3,478 posts)
20. Thank you Ray Harryhausen!
Fri May 15, 2026, 07:59 PM
12 hrs ago

Without him, many would never have known of these adventures

blue-wave

(5,531 posts)
13. So that wasn't a champagne bottle popping?
Fri May 15, 2026, 07:10 PM
13 hrs ago

It was just maga blood vessels bursting. Now, now. We must watch our blood pressure.

BaronChocula

(4,725 posts)
15. "Waaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh!
Fri May 15, 2026, 07:23 PM
13 hrs ago

You're erasing my fantasy culture, even though I'm not even Greek or make believe!"

Unfortunately Finnerty is real. A real bagacrap.

Warpy

(114,653 posts)
17. For a minute, I thought this would be about the upcoming Ml Gibson two parter
Fri May 15, 2026, 07:50 PM
12 hrs ago

because every Christofascist wngnut in the country is going to be lined up for those. I know the subject matter, and they're all going to be deeply offended by them, but they'll still be lined up.

hlthe2b

(114,626 posts)
18. Well, Jesus was unlikely to have been light-skinned either, so we're even...
Fri May 15, 2026, 07:54 PM
12 hrs ago
Who the hell knows what Helen of Troy would have looked like in the mind of the presumed author of 'the Odyssey,' Homer?

peppertree

(23,448 posts)
19. "You mean - Achilles didn't look like Brad Pitt!?"
Fri May 15, 2026, 07:57 PM
12 hrs ago

"No, Alex - and Patroclus didn't look like Garret Hedlund (nor was he his "nephew" )."

patphil

(9,214 posts)
21. But I do have a problem with the complete rewriting of history.
Fri May 15, 2026, 08:01 PM
12 hrs ago

The Odyssey is a fictional account of an historical event.
Helen of Troy didn't exist, no did Achilles, no did Odysseus, let alone all the fictitious creatures that appear in the book. This movie is simply a reboot of the original.
Rob Finnerty doesn't seem to know the difference between fiction and non-fiction.

Please don't tell him that Captain Marvel was originally a man, or that Jesus was probably brown skinned.
And, Santa Claus...well, we won't go into that.

patphil

(9,214 posts)
24. No, they're fictional characters that may have some roots in reality, but have never been shown to actually have lived.
Fri May 15, 2026, 08:25 PM
12 hrs ago

Homer took liberties with history to support his fictional epic.

LearnedHand

(5,583 posts)
26. Elliot is a trans man not a trans woman
Fri May 15, 2026, 08:32 PM
11 hrs ago

And I can’t even with the rest of the stupidity. It’s fucking FICTION.

yardwork

(69,585 posts)
27. Helen of Troy was hatched from an egg.
Fri May 15, 2026, 08:37 PM
11 hrs ago

Her parents were a god and a mortal woman (in some versions a goddess) who transformed herself into a swan.

Anybody saying this fictional character is "definitely white" is hilarious.

Initech

(109,237 posts)
30. Hey Newsmax, go fuck yourselves!
Fri May 15, 2026, 09:12 PM
11 hrs ago

Your shitty, worthless turd of a president and his ass kissing goons are rewriting our constitution and our rights. Go shove your pity party where it doesn't shine.

SouthernIrish

(540 posts)
31. This is awesome
Fri May 15, 2026, 09:48 PM
10 hrs ago

My very red east Tennessee town is building a new IMAX theater and the first movie to be shown is The Odyssey. This is great.

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