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edhopper

(37,507 posts) Wed May 13, 2026, 11:12 AM 2 hrs ago

Does Trump already have a deal with China?

Basics of Diplomacy 101 is that a President doesn't go to another country unless there is already a deal in place. If not, the President can look foolish and ineffective.
Of course Trump thinks he is a master at the deal and there aren't any left in the State Dept that understand how things work. At least not anyone he would listen to.
I predict that Trump will return without any real results, or announces something the Press will make a big thing of that will turn out to be a nothing burger or bad for America.

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Does Trump already have a deal with China? (Original Post) edhopper 2 hrs ago OP

"If not, the President can look foolish and ineffective." True Dough 1 hr ago #1

Krasnov is going to get a good deal but, gab13by13 1 hr ago #2

Already one of the biggest snubs in history malaise 1 hr ago #3

You mean Xi not welcoming him? underpants 1 hr ago #5

As in malaise 1 hr ago #7

Even if he doesn't, you can safely bet that Eric and the "Trump Organization" is getting one. Solly Mack 1 hr ago #4

Oh Xi has a deal for him Johonny 1 hr ago #6

DEAL? WHY WOULD CHINA CARE TO DEAL?! SHE IS CORNERING.... ColoringFool 1 hr ago #8

Xi holds the cards. Will TSF express enough gratitude? Sneederbunk 1 hr ago #9

Three possibilities, IMO... Happy Hoosier 1 hr ago #10

Xi knows he is full of shit and will offer only idiot "deals" usonian 1 hr ago #11

Trump may not have a deal, but he is going back from China with Dan 44 min ago #12

The area on my predictometer just zoomed to 100%. ananda 35 min ago #13

True Dough

(27,240 posts)

1. "If not, the President can look foolish and ineffective."

Reply to edhopper (Original post)

Wed May 13, 2026, 11:23 AM

1 hr ago

That is already true is so many ways, including the Iran war.

gab13by13

(32,724 posts)

2. Krasnov is going to get a good deal but,

Reply to edhopper (Original post)

Wed May 13, 2026, 11:24 AM

1 hr ago

It won’t be publicized what he gave up.

malaise

(297,774 posts)

3. Already one of the biggest snubs in history

Reply to edhopper (Original post)

Wed May 13, 2026, 11:27 AM

1 hr ago

Damn,

underpants

(197,096 posts)

5. You mean Xi not welcoming him?

Reply to malaise (Reply #3)

Wed May 13, 2026, 11:30 AM

1 hr ago

Link to tweet

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malaise

(297,774 posts)

7. As in

Reply to underpants (Reply #5)

Wed May 13, 2026, 11:38 AM

1 hr ago

Holy Shit!

Solly Mack

(97,244 posts)

4. Even if he doesn't, you can safely bet that Eric and the "Trump Organization" is getting one.

Reply to edhopper (Original post)

Wed May 13, 2026, 11:28 AM

1 hr ago

Probably Lara Trump too.

Johonny

(26,555 posts)

6. Oh Xi has a deal for him

Reply to edhopper (Original post)

Wed May 13, 2026, 11:34 AM

1 hr ago

Something as wonderful as the epic OPEC 2020 deal that rarely fucked us for years.

ColoringFool

(1,032 posts)

8. DEAL? WHY WOULD CHINA CARE TO DEAL?! SHE IS CORNERING....

Reply to edhopper (Original post)

Wed May 13, 2026, 11:40 AM

1 hr ago

THE MARKET IN AFRICAN RARE EARTH MINERALS, WITH THOUSANDS OF CHINESE WORKERS ON SITE.

EUROPE WILL BE SIGNING (MORE) TRADE DEALS WITH HER.

TRUMP HAS GONE A-BEGGING BECAUSE HIS TARIFFS ARE BECOMING ONEROUS ON THE UNITED STATES [SEE: SOYBEANS].

FUHGEDDABOUTIT, JAKE. IT'S CHINATOWN.

Sneederbunk

(17,615 posts)

9. Xi holds the cards. Will TSF express enough gratitude?

Reply to edhopper (Original post)

Wed May 13, 2026, 11:44 AM

1 hr ago

Happy Hoosier

(9,605 posts)

10. Three possibilities, IMO...

Reply to edhopper (Original post)

Wed May 13, 2026, 11:44 AM

1 hr ago

1) There is a deal, and it's an okey-doke. Essentially meaningless concessions form China that Trump can trumpet, but Xi is just playing Trump, and he is placating him while he is very effectively expanding Chinese influence

2) Trump thinks he has a deal, but also thinks he's the master of the deal and he'll fuck is all up by blowing up the previously agreed to deal. He does this alot.

3) There's a lot of pomp and we walk away with "Concepts of a Deal" that Trump will trumpet and comes to nothing.

I think 1 is most likely, but any of them could happen.

usonian

(26,502 posts)

11. Xi knows he is full of shit and will offer only idiot "deals"

Reply to edhopper (Original post)

Wed May 13, 2026, 12:00 PM

1 hr ago

China is holding all the cards, except for its flagging economy, which the war in Iran stands to boost considerably, IMO.

Maybe Xi will offer solar panels. Iran will starve the US and others not on the solar bandwagon.

The War in Iran Is Causing China to Sell So Many Solar Panels That Your Jaw Will Drop
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=21228983

He dragged along tech-bro flunkies, so this will probably be some chip and AI deal.