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PCIntern

(28,562 posts)
Tue May 12, 2026, 03:49 PM 5 hrs ago

Frankly, if my grossly overweight patient with heart failure and

Obvious deterioration both mentally and physically, progressing rapidly, grossly swollen legs and feet and history of Transient Ischemic Attacks, I would advise against a 20,000 mile round trip airline flight, no matter how mobile you could in fact be during that flight.

This trip has potential to be highly problematic health-wise. But what do I know?

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Frankly, if my grossly overweight patient with heart failure and (Original Post) PCIntern 5 hrs ago OP
Fingers crossed! bif 5 hrs ago #1
We will just have to hope for the best. rambler_american 2 hrs ago #61
Tease! questionseverything 5 hrs ago #2
We can only hope his doctors are as bad as his lawyers... displacedvermoter 5 hrs ago #3
How about RFK, Jr in charge of his health care? Jerry2144 5 hrs ago #7
if they are bootlickers Skittles 2 hrs ago #55
We can only hope nothing minor happens. Ocelot II 5 hrs ago #4
Yes it's positively insane. BannonsLiver 5 hrs ago #5
Don't get people's hopes up 😉 MustLoveBeagles 5 hrs ago #6
If I were China I wouldn't want him traveling for a diplomatic visit at this time. Baitball Blogger 4 hrs ago #8
And they'd have to find a big enough box to do a return shipment1 erronis 4 hrs ago #18
Glad I'm Just Jerome 4 hrs ago #24
They could probably find room on a container ship. WestMichRad 3 hrs ago #48
Exactly popsdenver 3 hrs ago #46
That's why, as a health professional, I endorse this trip for that person. Maru Kitteh 4 hrs ago #9
Yes, I am tearfully supporting PatSeg 4 hrs ago #20
Blood clots can happen to anyone. maxsolomon 4 hrs ago #10
Let us pray ZDU 4 hrs ago #11
His degenerative health and high risk behavior are Torchlight 4 hrs ago #12
Flying in AF1 isn't like flying on an airliner. Liberal In Texas 4 hrs ago #13
Cardiovascularly, flying poses threats PCIntern 4 hrs ago #16
Even if you can move around in AF1 unlike on an airliner, the cabin in any airplane Ocelot II 3 hrs ago #34
Lower, probably 6,000 with upgrades Aviation Pro 2 hrs ago #53
Hmm. Pushing the limits on the skin of an aging beast . . Maru Kitteh 27 min ago #65
It's still pressurized COL Mustard 3 hrs ago #28
You are now free to move about the cabin.... Blue Owl 4 hrs ago #14
Do you know why he flies so much? To catch lightning in the sky and not just wait for it to show up. usonian 4 hrs ago #15
Well done with lots of ketchup. PCIntern 3 hrs ago #41
Hey Orrex! Blood clots in the legs often occur during looooong plane trips. no_hypocrisy 4 hrs ago #17
Death Ride dave99 4 hrs ago #19
Don't threaten me with a good time. nclib 4 hrs ago #21
Don't give us false hope, PC. He hasn't even designed the royal crypt yet. Vinca 4 hrs ago #22
Please make it happen. I can't keep my party planner on retainer much longer. NoMoreRepugs 4 hrs ago #23
I hope he gets a double dose of hypoxia on the flight Aviation Pro 3 hrs ago #25
Oh Please haryn 3 hrs ago #26
I'm just rooting for bedridden IbogaProject 3 hrs ago #27
If Krasnov is such a great negotiator... ultralite001 3 hrs ago #29
You're saying mercuryblues 3 hrs ago #30
Hate to rain on the parade, but he's going to be just fine. Fil1957 3 hrs ago #31
Someday he won't be. Ocelot II 3 hrs ago #35
True, but not as soon as people hope or think it will be. Fil1957 3 hrs ago #36
You never know... Ocelot II 3 hrs ago #37
Yes, you never know -- one can always hope, but don't count on it. Fil1957 3 hrs ago #39
This message was self-deleted by its author Katinfl 2 hrs ago #56
Sorry I am tired of being disappointed Bluestocking 3 hrs ago #32
Maybe that's what JD and the Project 2025 crowd are counting on. ChicagoTeamster 3 hrs ago #33
I personally want the champagne to break out whole reading an Orrex... NNadir 3 hrs ago #38
I'm starting to lose my faith in WH doctors. Trmp has had four physicals this year and .... eppur_se_muova 3 hrs ago #40
Why... he could live to 200!!! PCIntern 3 hrs ago #42
It's already past 1600 here ! nt eppur_se_muova 3 hrs ago #44
I recommend sitting stationary the entire flight. 33taw 3 hrs ago #43
I want my free beer from the world famous, and owner of, and running for WI Govenor, Minocqua Brewing Co a kennedy 3 hrs ago #45
If only JV Vance was going along too. NBachers 3 hrs ago #47
Ah, interesting Joinfortmill 3 hrs ago #49
That also crossed my mind BeneteauBum 2 hrs ago #50
Sicily 2017 bmichaelh 2 hrs ago #51
His doctor also said he weighs 220 pounds... Unrepentant Fenian 2 hrs ago #52
Ah, thank you! That cheered me right up! niyad 2 hrs ago #54
Good!! AverageOldGuy 2 hrs ago #57
. Hassin Bin Sober 2 hrs ago #58
For all the travel. especially the flying, he does, Totally Tunsie 2 hrs ago #59
No doubt aka JD is busy praying the rosary Hassler 2 hrs ago #60
Thank 😊 you Faux pas 1 hr ago #62
Maybe it's finally time to chill a small bottle of champagne. Ilsa 44 min ago #63
Relax, people GenThePerservering 38 min ago #64
My mother told me three people she knows got very sick BigmanPigman 22 min ago #66

Baitball Blogger

(52,694 posts)
8. If I were China I wouldn't want him traveling for a diplomatic visit at this time.
Tue May 12, 2026, 04:19 PM
4 hrs ago

If something happens to Trump, MAGA will claim the Chinese poisoned him.

erronis

(24,465 posts)
18. And they'd have to find a big enough box to do a return shipment1
Tue May 12, 2026, 04:59 PM
4 hrs ago

To say nothing about fluids leaking. (Sorry!)

popsdenver

(2,580 posts)
46. Exactly
Tue May 12, 2026, 05:58 PM
3 hrs ago

Perfect set up for our CIA to pull a false flag? (or is it Black Flag?) operation, have something happen to him, and blame it on China......

For those here old enough to remember ....
............wouldn't be the first time our government did that........

If I were China, I wouldn't let him anywhere near my country......and in all truth, "Mr. Worldly" couldn't even point out China on a blank map............

Maru Kitteh

(31,968 posts)
9. That's why, as a health professional, I endorse this trip for that person.
Tue May 12, 2026, 04:24 PM
4 hrs ago

Carry on sir (with tears in my eyes).



editing to add: I am not a big strong man, but hopefully my tears will do

PatSeg

(53,475 posts)
20. Yes, I am tearfully supporting
Tue May 12, 2026, 05:00 PM
4 hrs ago

his diplomatic trip as I believe he can do it! "Don't let the naysayers or doctors dissuade you sir, sniff, sniff. You can do this!"

Torchlight

(7,021 posts)
12. His degenerative health and high risk behavior are
Tue May 12, 2026, 04:39 PM
4 hrs ago

tough for even Joe Sixpack to look past and ignore. I think the best messaging defense they have available on this one is the anemic, "well... let's just wait and see, it happens to the best of us.."

Liberal In Texas

(16,403 posts)
13. Flying in AF1 isn't like flying on an airliner.
Tue May 12, 2026, 04:40 PM
4 hrs ago

It has an office/gym, a bedroom, a dining area/conference room, a full kitchen and a medical facility. It's almost not much more cramped and stressful than walking around the WH or one of his golf clubs.

But hope live eternally.




PCIntern

(28,562 posts)
16. Cardiovascularly, flying poses threats
Tue May 12, 2026, 04:51 PM
4 hrs ago

for brittle patients. There are many issues including but not limited to cabin pressure variations.

Ocelot II

(131,159 posts)
34. Even if you can move around in AF1 unlike on an airliner, the cabin in any airplane
Tue May 12, 2026, 05:30 PM
3 hrs ago

is pressurized to the equivalent of 10,000 feet above seal level, which is at about the limit of where you can start to get hypoxia. So an overweight 80-year-old with possible congestive heart failure and a history of TIAs flying to China is basically going to be sitting on top of San Jacinto Peak for 10 hours. Many hours at 10,000' can reduce O2 saturation to about 88%, which might not be a good thing for said overweight 80-year-old.

usonian

(26,488 posts)
15. Do you know why he flies so much? To catch lightning in the sky and not just wait for it to show up.
Tue May 12, 2026, 04:43 PM
4 hrs ago


This time, probably because he likes "high steaks" diplomacy. (30,000 feet high)

Jet engine flame broiled, with afterburners on full blast.



BUT BE WARNED.
Space aliens have been doxxed to the general public, and I hear that
THEY ARE PISSED
and will get even.

no_hypocrisy

(55,313 posts)
17. Hey Orrex! Blood clots in the legs often occur during looooong plane trips.
Tue May 12, 2026, 04:53 PM
4 hrs ago

Embolisms and all that.

Jes' sayin'

Aviation Pro

(15,748 posts)
25. I hope he gets a double dose of hypoxia on the flight
Tue May 12, 2026, 05:15 PM
3 hrs ago

Hypoxic hypoxia and stagnant hypoxia (because he won't move his fat, fucking ass).

haryn

(44 posts)
26. Oh Please
Tue May 12, 2026, 05:16 PM
3 hrs ago

The only good thing he could do for this country and the world is to forever leave them.

IbogaProject

(6,055 posts)
27. I'm just rooting for bedridden
Tue May 12, 2026, 05:18 PM
3 hrs ago

With very poor speech and inability to post anymore. I want him to watch every one move on for awhile, especially for people to start to rebuke him while he is still alive.

Response to Fil1957 (Reply #31)

NNadir

(38,495 posts)
38. I personally want the champagne to break out whole reading an Orrex...
Tue May 12, 2026, 05:34 PM
3 hrs ago

Last edited Tue May 12, 2026, 06:59 PM - Edit history (1)

...celebratory post.

The more risk this horrible person takes with fragile physical health and a blown mind never should be subject to restriction.

eppur_se_muova

(42,418 posts)
40. I'm starting to lose my faith in WH doctors. Trmp has had four physicals this year and ....
Tue May 12, 2026, 05:43 PM
3 hrs ago

... they still haven't found anything serious ? Are these guys even trying ?

BeneteauBum

(747 posts)
50. That also crossed my mind
Tue May 12, 2026, 06:18 PM
2 hrs ago

And I wonder how effective he can be on the world stage……

Peace ☮️

AverageOldGuy

(4,134 posts)
57. Good!!
Tue May 12, 2026, 06:42 PM
2 hrs ago

Let him go. Two advantages of Trump being out of the US.

1. The stress of travel could kill him.
2. He's not awake after midnight tweeting.

Totally Tunsie

(11,992 posts)
59. For all the travel. especially the flying, he does,
Tue May 12, 2026, 06:53 PM
2 hrs ago

one would think eventually the odds would catch up with him.

Roll those dice!

Hassler

(4,957 posts)
60. No doubt aka JD is busy praying the rosary
Tue May 12, 2026, 06:54 PM
2 hrs ago

That it all works out for JD. He offed Francis with an awkward laugh, so who knows.

Ilsa

(64,535 posts)
63. Maybe it's finally time to chill a small bottle of champagne.
Tue May 12, 2026, 08:30 PM
44 min ago

Thanks for the potentially good news.

BigmanPigman

(55,496 posts)
66. My mother told me three people she knows got very sick
Tue May 12, 2026, 08:52 PM
22 min ago

for several weeks recently after they flew on a plane to CA from the East Coast. What's up with that? Has anyone else noticed this?

On the bright side, hopefully the fucking moron will get sick and die. Hope springs eternal!

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