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CousinIT

(12,729 posts)
Mon May 11, 2026, 10:05 PM 16 hrs ago

Stop saying "single mothers"



This illustrates how the language of our most often sexist and anti-woman, slut-and responsibility-shaming society demonizes women.
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Stop saying "single mothers" (Original Post) CousinIT 16 hrs ago OP
Excellent point. 3catwoman3 16 hrs ago #1
Single moms are single for all sorts of reasons, and just because she's a "single mom" doesn't mean the dad isn't in the WhiskeyGrinder 15 hrs ago #2
Message auto-removed Name removed 14 hrs ago #4
pointing out sexism doesn't mean you "hate men" Skittles 14 hrs ago #6
Message auto-removed Name removed 14 hrs ago #10
LOL Skittles 14 hrs ago #11
Post removed Post removed 14 hrs ago #13
Fox News, Newsmax, et al, will never be able to teach them subtlety, will they? Aristus 4 hrs ago #43
It's referring to absentee fathers. Quiet Em 14 hrs ago #15
THIS. Exactly. n/t CousinIT 5 hrs ago #33
Single mother, single father, single parent in my understanding has always been meant as the sole parent Quiet Em 14 hrs ago #12
I don't see it that way Skittles 11 hrs ago #27
My father - a Dad, Grandpa and Great-Grandpa - used to ask a "drop-dead question".... Bluejeans 14 hrs ago #3
divorced dads are only a "problem" if they don't help to support their child Skittles 14 hrs ago #5
This is akin to saying "bastard child" Seinan Sensei 14 hrs ago #7
or "illegitimate" Skittles 14 hrs ago #9
Doesn't this assume the father had a choice? Renew Deal 14 hrs ago #8
In those cases, the single parent is referred to as a "widow" or "widower", not a "single mother" CousinIT 5 hrs ago #29
A "widow" doesn't describe a person with a child. Renew Deal 5 hrs ago #34
Damn straight!!! calimary 14 hrs ago #14
Absolutely not. NH Ethylene 14 hrs ago #16
if the term 'single mother' is shallow, 'targeting' and singularly undescriptive ... stopdiggin 14 hrs ago #17
absentee was the key word. If a parent, a Mom or Dad is absentee Quiet Em 14 hrs ago #18
how about a person that is serving in the military stopdiggin 13 hrs ago #23
If both parents are active and not absentee in their children's lives Quiet Em 13 hrs ago #24
assumptions - accompanied by narrowing and restricted definition .... stopdiggin 12 hrs ago #25
But the OP headline and text of the meme are making no such distinctions AZJonnie 9 hrs ago #28
I am a single father BeneteauBum 13 hrs ago #19
And if the father died? And if the father isn't the one responsible for the breakup in the relationship? This looks Doodley 13 hrs ago #20
If the father died, she's called a "widow", not a single mother. But you know that. n/t CousinIT 5 hrs ago #30
Okay so my mother wasn't a single parent after all. Glad you put me straight. Doodley 4 hrs ago #36
She was widowed, she wasn't single obamanut2012 4 hrs ago #40
It isn't "man hating" -- just stop obamanut2012 4 hrs ago #39
Sometimes, single women are mothers by choice. Wouldn't they indeed be "single mothers?" littlemissmartypants 13 hrs ago #21
Yes, they are single mothers by choice Quiet Em 13 hrs ago #22
Exactly. Single mothers (even if it's a choice) are looked upon with derision. CousinIT 5 hrs ago #31
Because somebody somewhere will be offended. Doodley 4 hrs ago #38
Who will be offended? obamanut2012 4 hrs ago #41
Wowzer. We live in an anti-woman, slut-and responsibility-shaming Abolishinist 12 hrs ago #26
We do... CousinIT 5 hrs ago #32
I do think people quinteroon 5 hrs ago #35
Agreed. And a man bringing up children on his own is also a single parent. Doodley 4 hrs ago #37
Woman, not female obamanut2012 4 hrs ago #42
Excuse me? quinteroon 1 hr ago #45
This thread did not disapoint... radicalleft 4 hrs ago #44

WhiskeyGrinder

(27,203 posts)
2. Single moms are single for all sorts of reasons, and just because she's a "single mom" doesn't mean the dad isn't in the
Mon May 11, 2026, 10:23 PM
15 hrs ago

picture. Not sure what this accomplishes.

Response to WhiskeyGrinder (Reply #2)

Response to Skittles (Reply #6)

Response to Skittles (Reply #11)

Quiet Em

(2,987 posts)
15. It's referring to absentee fathers.
Tue May 12, 2026, 12:08 AM
14 hrs ago

I don't think anyone considers a deceased father or mother to be an absentee mother or father.

Quiet Em

(2,987 posts)
12. Single mother, single father, single parent in my understanding has always been meant as the sole parent
Tue May 12, 2026, 12:04 AM
14 hrs ago

Perhaps because they are widowed, or for whatever reason they and the child/children do not have any relationship with the other parent.

If Dad or Mom are in the picture with the parent who has custody of the children they are co-parents, not single parents.

Single means the only, the sole, parent.

Skittles

(172,707 posts)
27. I don't see it that way
Tue May 12, 2026, 02:46 AM
11 hrs ago

to me a "single mother" simply means the partner isn't physically available.....by divorce, widowhood or desertion

a tough job no matter what

Bluejeans

(163 posts)
3. My father - a Dad, Grandpa and Great-Grandpa - used to ask a "drop-dead question"....
Mon May 11, 2026, 11:24 PM
14 hrs ago

My father - a Dad, Grandpa and Great-Grandpa - used to ask a "drop-dead question"....

Where are the IMPREGNATORS!"

There's a loaded question for those absentee fathers, I mean, "impregnators"!

Skittles

(172,707 posts)
5. divorced dads are only a "problem" if they don't help to support their child
Mon May 11, 2026, 11:35 PM
14 hrs ago

"staying together for the sake of the kids" is often way, way worse for them than divorce

Seinan Sensei

(1,630 posts)
7. This is akin to saying "bastard child"
Mon May 11, 2026, 11:38 PM
14 hrs ago

There’s no such thing.
There ARE “bastard parents,” however

Renew Deal

(85,324 posts)
8. Doesn't this assume the father had a choice?
Mon May 11, 2026, 11:40 PM
14 hrs ago

I know multiple current cases where a parent died. It’s tragic.

CousinIT

(12,729 posts)
29. In those cases, the single parent is referred to as a "widow" or "widower", not a "single mother"
Tue May 12, 2026, 08:29 AM
5 hrs ago

People in this thread know that, but they are pulling in other terms in the interest of defense. And it just doesn't fly.

Renew Deal

(85,324 posts)
34. A "widow" doesn't describe a person with a child.
Tue May 12, 2026, 08:52 AM
5 hrs ago

The image in the OP is language parsing rage bait that most reasonable people would disagree with and is meant to divide people. It has no useful value beyond that.

NH Ethylene

(31,391 posts)
16. Absolutely not.
Tue May 12, 2026, 12:12 AM
14 hrs ago

Single mothers OR fathers should just be called single parents.

Neither parent should be automatically deemed a problem when the parents split up.

There are plenty of fathers who are very involved in parenting even if they are not living with them any longer, and there are plenty of fathers who pay child support. And there are plenty of mothers who wear the 'single mother' badge as a source of pride and as a sign of strength and perseverance.

People who say 'single mother' with disdain should be completely disregarded. MAGA 'values' should not drive our paths or our language.

stopdiggin

(15,622 posts)
17. if the term 'single mother' is shallow, 'targeting' and singularly undescriptive ...
Tue May 12, 2026, 12:15 AM
14 hrs ago

the assumption that the sole (or even overwhelmingly likely) reason for it lies in a male/father - that self evidently bailed ....

Is equally shallow - vapid - and, yes, defamatory.

This meme is not nearly the 'own' that some apparently thought ...

Quiet Em

(2,987 posts)
18. absentee was the key word. If a parent, a Mom or Dad is absentee
Tue May 12, 2026, 12:23 AM
14 hrs ago

than they are not involved.

Single in this meaning is not a relationship status, it's an indication of being the sole or only parent.

stopdiggin

(15,622 posts)
23. how about a person that is serving in the military
Tue May 12, 2026, 01:16 AM
13 hrs ago

been involuntarily deported - or perhaps incarcerated .. ? (or any one of ten other different circumstances - including the 'biological' that was never informed and/or invited to participate)

You're still making a boatload of assumptions - and casting aspersion without good evidence.
It remains just too simplistic - and just not a great argument. (in my humble opinion)

Quiet Em

(2,987 posts)
24. If both parents are active and not absentee in their children's lives
Tue May 12, 2026, 01:22 AM
13 hrs ago

then they are co-parents, not single parents.

Serving in the military, being deported, or being incarcerated does not prevent one from being involved in the lives of their children. Perhaps it could do so financially, but not emotionally.

Absentee means completely absent. Not present at all. Not involved at all. Not a part of.

stopdiggin

(15,622 posts)
25. assumptions - accompanied by narrowing and restricted definition ....
Tue May 12, 2026, 01:41 AM
12 hrs ago

none of which appear in the original.
(which is why it received the knock in the first place - or at least that coming from this direction.)

For what it's worth - and in effort to calm the waters.
In the narrow construction in which you choose to frame this - general agreement and support. And further, I don't think anyone on this panel has too much problem with giving dead-beat dads (or mothers) the rousing kick in the shorts that they deserve. But - that too ... Kinda' goes without saying. Yeah?

AZJonnie

(3,985 posts)
28. But the OP headline and text of the meme are making no such distinctions
Tue May 12, 2026, 05:07 AM
9 hrs ago

The logical reading is that the phenomenon of "single mothers" (something we should stop saying, not conditionally, but entirely) only arises because of "absentee fathers".

What you seem to me to be arguing is that the message should had been more clear. Which is the same as what everyone who's arguing against this meme is also arguing.

BeneteauBum

(742 posts)
19. I am a single father
Tue May 12, 2026, 12:38 AM
13 hrs ago

Thirty three years ago, I couldn’t no longer stand the abuse directed at me and my three daughters. Took the mother to court and, after 3 1/2 years, was awarded custody. My two oldest are 47 now with wonderful families. The youngest will be 36 soon and is a happily married parent.

I was always proud to be a single dad with three daughters. Many people I encountered along the way were amazed that I took on the responsibility. My Dad was of the opinion that.saved the kids……and I’m still single.
So when the moniker ‘single parent’ is used, I have a great deal of respect for the responsibility that person has accepted. Pay it forward.

Peace ☮️

Doodley

(12,062 posts)
20. And if the father died? And if the father isn't the one responsible for the breakup in the relationship? This looks
Tue May 12, 2026, 12:51 AM
13 hrs ago

like more man-hating in my opinion.

CousinIT

(12,729 posts)
30. If the father died, she's called a "widow", not a single mother. But you know that. n/t
Tue May 12, 2026, 08:35 AM
5 hrs ago

obamanut2012

(29,501 posts)
39. It isn't "man hating" -- just stop
Tue May 12, 2026, 09:52 AM
4 hrs ago

Realize how you are part of teh problem by saying that.

Quiet Em

(2,987 posts)
22. Yes, they are single mothers by choice
Tue May 12, 2026, 01:15 AM
13 hrs ago

But many other single parents are single parents not by choice.

Single mothers draw a lot of negative connotation. Single fathers, not as much. I believe that is the point.

CousinIT

(12,729 posts)
31. Exactly. Single mothers (even if it's a choice) are looked upon with derision.
Tue May 12, 2026, 08:36 AM
5 hrs ago

Whereas single fathers are marveled at and respected.

The reasons don't matter. That's just the way our society is.

Abolishinist

(3,034 posts)
26. Wowzer. We live in an anti-woman, slut-and responsibility-shaming
Tue May 12, 2026, 01:51 AM
12 hrs ago

society which demonizes women. Let's change "single mothers" to "children of absentee fathers".

And we wonder why we lose elections.

CousinIT

(12,729 posts)
32. We do...
Tue May 12, 2026, 08:38 AM
5 hrs ago

... live in an anti-woman, slut-and responsibility-shaming society that demonizes women. And with that, I wonder how we win elections.

quinteroon

(4 posts)
35. I do think people
Tue May 12, 2026, 09:05 AM
5 hrs ago

put the onus and scorn on the female raising the child alone. However, it's also a way of showing the burden she has. It's only a negative term if you view it that way.

quinteroon

(4 posts)
45. Excuse me?
Tue May 12, 2026, 12:59 PM
1 hr ago

I didn't say anything that was erroneous. Merriam-Webster definition of female:
"of, relating to, or being the sex that typically has the capacity to bear young or produce eggs"

Why the correction? Not all single mothers are adult women. I do not refer to adult women as females, if that was your concern.

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