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LetMyPeopleVote

(181,653 posts)
Sun May 10, 2026, 05:01 PM 10 hrs ago

A Private Call Reveals Democrats' Desperation Over Tossing of Map (NYT gift article)

I personally believe that given the ruling by Alito and other GOP gerrymandering, the steps outlined here are appropriate.



https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/10/us/politics/democrats-virginia-plans-gerrymandering.html?unlocked_article_code=1.hVA.KzAI.Wf17nRa9PSjl&smid=nytcore-ios-share

During a private discussion on Saturday that included Democratic House members from Virginia and Representative Hakeem Jeffries of New York, the minority leader, the lawmakers vented anger at their defeat at the Virginia Supreme Court, spoke about a collective determination to flip two or three Republican-held seats under the existing map and discussed a bank-shot proposal to redraw the congressional lines anyway, according to three people who participated in the call and two others who were briefed on it.....

Any plans to enact a new congressional map for this year’s midterm elections would require action in the next few days. In a court filing last month, Steven Koski, the commissioner of the Virginia Department of Elections, said any changes to the maps after Tuesday, May 12, “will significantly increase the risk” of his agency being unable to properly prepare for the state’s scheduled Aug. 4 primary election......

One key to the plan would be having Democrats in Richmond lower the mandatory retirement age for state Supreme Court justices, an idea that began circulating among state lawmakers and members of Congress after a column proposing a version of the idea was published on Friday night in The Downballot, a progressive newsletter.

Ms. Spanberger would have to sign off on any legislation that lowered the judicial retirement age. She has not been briefed on the proposal, the people involved in the discussion or briefed on it said. Her spokeswoman, Libby Wiet, declined to comment.

The first step in the process, as discussed on the delegation’s call, would be to invoke a January ruling by a circuit court judge in Tazewell County, Va., that said the 2026 constitutional amendment effort to redraw the maps was invalid because county officials did not post notice of it at courthouses and other public locations three months before a general election.

Representative Suhas Subramanyam, a Democrat who represents Loudoun County, Va., said in an interview that he supported doing whatever was necessary to preserve the map voters approved in last month’s referendum — including replacing the state’s Supreme Court justices.

Everyone has got to have a strong stomach right now; this is a complete disaster waiting to happen if people are timid,” said Mr. Subramanyam, who was on the Saturday call. “We have Republican states ignoring their constitutions and interrupting early voting and ignoring their Supreme Courts all together. We know based on that, Republicans would explore every single option possible to move this forward.”....

In an interview on Friday night, before his Saturday meeting with Virginia lawmakers, Mr. Jeffries said he was “exploring how to unravel this decision.”

“It’s an all-hands-on-deck moment, and it’s unprecedented in American history as far as we can tell that an actual election has been overturned by a handful of unelected judges,” Mr. Jeffries said. “We’re not going to step back, we will continue to fight back.”

This is a very aggressive plan which could backfire. However, this plan may be necessary to stop trump's gerrymandering.
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A Private Call Reveals Democrats' Desperation Over Tossing of Map (NYT gift article) (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote 10 hrs ago OP
Despite the possibility of any plan backfiring, Dems need to take the gloves off and embrace the risk peggysue2 9 hrs ago #1
"Everyone has got to have a strong stomach right now" - I agree newdeal2 9 hrs ago #2
Dems eye 'audacious' secret plan to oust entire blue state Supreme Court: report LetMyPeopleVote 8 hrs ago #3

peggysue2

(12,574 posts)
1. Despite the possibility of any plan backfiring, Dems need to take the gloves off and embrace the risk
Sun May 10, 2026, 05:37 PM
9 hrs ago

American voters are waiting for this kind of fight-back action from the Democratic Party and its leadership. Trump's lackeys have been riding roughshod over laws and norms, making a joke of every American institution.

Our own party and leaders need to stand their ground even if it means fighting ugly.

Because the risk of not fighting, of not pulling out all the stops is far riskier and more grave. This is our last chance to stop these goons and their destruction of the country's democratic values. After SCOTUS willingly and with malicious intent dismantled the Voting Rights Act, nothing should be off the table.

Americans are experiencing economic hardship; there's plenty more of that to come without a change in direction. Trump and his billionaire buddies are in the process of strip-mining the Nation of its money, resources and credibility. They're attempting to normalize fraud in all things. Now, of course, it's our elections because they know they can't win in a fair system.

Fight now or be prepared for a lifetime of regret.

newdeal2

(5,561 posts)
2. "Everyone has got to have a strong stomach right now" - I agree
Sun May 10, 2026, 05:42 PM
9 hrs ago

And this is the message all Dems need to get onboard with for the new several years, even after victory. We are not going back to normal without taking extraordinary means that will make some people a bit squeamish e.g. packing SCOTUS, going after Fox news, overturning Citizens United, etc.

LetMyPeopleVote

(181,653 posts)
3. Dems eye 'audacious' secret plan to oust entire blue state Supreme Court: report
Sun May 10, 2026, 06:06 PM
8 hrs ago

Given the outrageous ruling by SCOTUS, the GO P actions taken in Louisiana, Tennessee, Mississippi and Alabama, these steps are appropriate. The GOP cannot claim clean hands given the steps taken by SCOTUS and these states.

Dems eye 'audacious' secret plan to oust entire blue state Supreme Court: report

DO IT! Get creatove Dems. No shame. No "but my precious decorum". Fight. The. Fascists. #Virginia

www.rawstory.com/virginia-red...

br00t4c (@br00t4c.bsky.social) 2026-05-10T19:51:47.254Z

https://www.rawstory.com/virginia-redistricting-2676875271/

Congressional Democrats are quietly kicking around a long-shot scheme to clear out Virginia's entire Supreme Court, which just torched their gerrymandered congressional map.

During a private Saturday call that included Virginia's Democratic House delegation and House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries (D-NY), lawmakers vented over Friday's ruling and floated what The New York Times described as "an audacious and possibly far-fetched idea" to replace every sitting justice and reinstate their map, according to a Sunday report.

The scheme includes lowering the mandatory judicial retirement age from 75 to 54 — the age of the youngest current justice — forcing all seven off the bench. Virginia judges are appointed by the Democratic-controlled General Assembly, which could then stack the court with friendly replacements.

"The conversation reflected the desperation and fury that have gripped the party after the state Supreme Court struck down a favorable map that had been ratified by voters," the Times wrote, calling the mass ouster the "most dramatic idea they discussed."

The idea reportedly drew "mixed reactions" on the call, and Democrats did not land on a path forward. Gov. Abigail Spanberger has not been briefed, her spokeswoman told the Times. Former Rep. James Moran (D-VA) warned the gambit would be "just a bridge too far" and could backfire.

Rep. Suhas Subramanyam (D-VA), who was on the call, told the Times he supports doing whatever is necessary, adding: "Everyone has got to have a strong stomach right now; this is a complete disaster waiting to happen if people are timid."
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