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Here we go again with the market manipulation just to protect Krasnov.
Gas was at the point that it was taking over $100 for Magats to fill up their pickup trucks.
Once again we are being told that crude has dropped because a peace plan may be happening. How many times has this excuse been made to lower the price of crude? How many Krasnov relatives made a killing betting on the price of crude today?
A tanker blew up and caught on fire trying to go through Hormuz. Israel is talking about bombing Iran again. Iran is bombing oil facilities in the UAE and the price of crude falls 9%, sorry, as W said fool me once shame on me, fool me 3 or 4 times, I forget the next line.
Delarage
(2,612 posts)Several times Democrats have made headway against oil companies---with tremendous backlash (Bush v. Gore; Russia/Trump vs. Clinton/Harris)--so now it has been confirmed for me that oil is the lifeblood of corruption and control. We could easily become energy-independent (alternative sources--even nuclear) but instead we pay wind companies to cancel their projects, cancelled all of Clinton's energy initiatives, cancelled Biden's initiatives.
As Midnight Oil pointed out---nothing's as precious as a hole in the ground.
Omnipresent
(7,502 posts)US oil production is sold here and abroad. Oil companies arent regulated to only selling to the US.
We can Drill baby drill! all we want to just supply US consumers in the false hope of keeping prices low, but the reality is that any overseas calamity would still affect the price.
I basically meant independence from fossil fuels....but even if we cut that cord, all this nonsense elsewhere would affect prices of other goods here.
ProfessorGAC
(77,154 posts)You are trying to attribute logic to an irrational system.
The market acts irrationally and requires no shadowy background to explain overreaction on price.
gab13by13
(32,632 posts)and not market manipulators, certainly the invisible hand of the market was a joke.
The word I hear all of the time that makes me shudder is, "perception." When markets are based on perception they can certainly be manipulated.
ProfessorGAC
(77,154 posts)Just because it is no longer rational, doesn't make it any easier to manipulate than when OPEC could affect prices by simply turning pumps up or down.
Plus, the market back then still reacted to world events.
I still think the marketeers are looking for their short term gains so they overreact to every event.
SamuelTheThird
(1,226 posts)twodogsbarking
(19,216 posts)multigraincracker
(37,956 posts)Time to break up Big Oil. When the same big corporations own the oil fields, oil transportation, refineries and retail stores, we are their victims.
Johnny2X2X
(24,387 posts)This is just market manipulation. The oil speculators know Trump is full of shit, but they're just playing the game.
muriel_volestrangler
(106,501 posts)fucking around and changing his mind every few hours, and a negotiated settlement would mean stability.
Ray Bruns
(6,631 posts)Maddening.
hay rick
(9,689 posts)It might have been a profitable play the first time or two but now Trump's just the chubby little boy who called "BULL!" way too often.
Happy Hoosier
(9,592 posts)That's certainly worth the Trump clan making billions on this scheme, right?
RedWhiteBlueIsRacist
(2,195 posts)BumRushDaShow
(171,650 posts)Snapshot just after 9 am -

Fiendish Thingy
(23,844 posts)Which makes sense, given the rumours of cessation of hostilities and reopening of Hormuz.
If it happens, expect futures to plummet, and if it doesnt, expect the ongoing roller coaster.
While there has definitely been an element of manipulation/insider trading in this war, much of it is attributable to the mercurial incompetence of one man.
nitpicked
(1,947 posts)Not yo-yoing every hour with every latest bulletin.
Fiendish Thingy
(23,844 posts)But yes, the general trend is upward.
returnee
(968 posts)minutes before TSFs announcement?
republianmushroom
(22,593 posts)Was this before or after the US firer upon an Iran tanker ?