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edhopper

(37,427 posts)
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 03:23 PM 9 hrs ago

ICE can go to any polling place and arbitrarily

pull people out of line on suspicion of being undocumented.
Kavanaugh said they only need a "reasonable suspicion" and that is determined by the officer making the decision.

Expect this in November in minority communities.

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ICE can go to any polling place and arbitrarily (Original Post) edhopper 9 hrs ago OP
It won't matter Fiendish Thingy 9 hrs ago #1
I feel the only states that this will take place is bluestarone 8 hrs ago #2
Not for the house it won't Fiendish Thingy 7 hrs ago #5
Well, all i can say is we know how ICE does things, and so far bluestarone 7 hrs ago #8
What force do the states have? Qutzupalotl 6 hrs ago #11
It will matter to each and every legitimate, disenfranchised voter. Mister Ed 8 hrs ago #3
And the Dem majority in the house will investigate those crimes Fiendish Thingy 7 hrs ago #6
Precisely. It MATTERS if even ONE B.See 7 hrs ago #10
Calif redistricting just offset that in Texas. Repubs also gerrymandered spooky3 8 hrs ago #4
Gerrymandering won't save republicans Fiendish Thingy 7 hrs ago #7
I agree. What I disagreed with is that California provided 5 more seats to Dems spooky3 7 hrs ago #9
It seems rather facile to ignore the deterrence value of some well placed ICE tactics. Ilikepurple 6 hrs ago #12
It won't matter in the sense that it won't affect the outcome of the election Fiendish Thingy 5 hrs ago #13
You'd be surprised edhopper 5 hrs ago #15
The senate is not yet a sure thing Fiendish Thingy 5 hrs ago #16
What election? There are 435 House races up for election. A possibility exists that we may lose some to "tactics" Ilikepurple 4 hrs ago #17
Strategizing is important and useful Fiendish Thingy 4 hrs ago #18
That's why they hate mail-in voting... Wounded Bear 5 hrs ago #14

Fiendish Thingy

(23,542 posts)
1. It won't matter
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 03:40 PM
9 hrs ago

There aren’t enough ICE agents to cover the hundreds of thousands of polling places across the nation.

“They will just target strategic precincts with high non-white populations”

Still won’t matter.

When MTG’s former district swings something like 27 points towards the Dems, and numerous 2024 Trump +20 districts have swung 15-30 points towards Dems in elections over the past year, there is no such thing as a strategic district.

Dems are projected to flip at least 20-30 seats, and some are saying it could be as high as 40-50 seats.

Dems only need to pick up 3 seats to retake control of the House.

California redistricting alone gives them five.

Nothing can stop the Blue Tsunami.

bluestarone

(22,343 posts)
2. I feel the only states that this will take place is
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 03:47 PM
8 hrs ago

The toss up states. So i feel this WILL matter.

Fiendish Thingy

(23,542 posts)
5. Not for the house it won't
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 04:55 PM
7 hrs ago

Dems will flip far too many house seats for targeting toss up seats to matter.

It might affect the senate, but with states like IA, AK and TX in play, ICE simply doesn’t have the manpower to be everywhere at once.

You must be assuming the states will twiddle their thumbs as ICE wreaks havoc at polling places?

Even with thousands of agents in Minneapolis, ICE couldn’t subdue that city.

bluestarone

(22,343 posts)
8. Well, all i can say is we know how ICE does things, and so far
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 05:20 PM
7 hrs ago

NOBODY is stopping them at the time they are doing them things. THEY have free rein to do whatever. It will be a total; mess!! That's how i see this.

Qutzupalotl

(15,843 posts)
11. What force do the states have?
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 06:03 PM
6 hrs ago

Their National Guard? Trump can federalize them. Police? Supremacy means feds trump local police. Lawyers? Maybe, but good luck with that. Guns are often more persuasive.

Mister Ed

(6,953 posts)
3. It will matter to each and every legitimate, disenfranchised voter.
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 03:55 PM
8 hrs ago

Every crime matters, including those that don't affect me discernably or change the course of history.

Fiendish Thingy

(23,542 posts)
6. And the Dem majority in the house will investigate those crimes
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 04:59 PM
7 hrs ago

ICE won’t affect the outcome of the midterms.

B.See

(8,634 posts)
10. Precisely. It MATTERS if even ONE
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 05:33 PM
7 hrs ago

voter is made to feel threatened, intimidated, OR uncomfortable due to racist PROFILING and harassment from Trump's GESTAPO goons.

spooky3

(38,750 posts)
4. Calif redistricting just offset that in Texas. Repubs also gerrymandered
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 03:58 PM
8 hrs ago

MO and are attempting it in other states. That’s why the Virginia pushback mattered. If the court challenge is dismissed, the seat (district) changes are just about even for Repubs and Dems.

Fiendish Thingy

(23,542 posts)
7. Gerrymandering won't save republicans
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 05:00 PM
7 hrs ago

Not when Dems are going to flip 30+ seats, and only need a net gain of 3.

spooky3

(38,750 posts)
9. I agree. What I disagreed with is that California provided 5 more seats to Dems
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 05:28 PM
7 hrs ago

And that that was a net gain at the national level. It isn’t. We are simply offsetting the attempted net gains that Repubs thought they would have based solely on redistricting.

Ilikepurple

(750 posts)
12. It seems rather facile to ignore the deterrence value of some well placed ICE tactics.
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 06:31 PM
6 hrs ago

“‘They will just target strategic precincts with high non-white populations’

Still won’t matter. ???”

What a strange response. It will matter to those that are not sure if they will be harassed or even detained for exercising their right to vote. There are already many citizens from targeted groups who have modified their behaviors out of fear of being detained by ICE because of their appearance. Of course it matters regardless if it’s ultimately investigated by a Democratic House. Not every right has an adequate legal remedy. This response seems relatively untroubled by both the disenfranchisement of voters by race and rather dismissive of the districts that will not be represented by their candidate of choice because of voter suppression. I agree if you’re only worried about regaining the house, things look good for the Democratic Party, but disagree that potential ICE involvement in November’s election isn’t an issue that warrants discussion.

Fiendish Thingy

(23,542 posts)
13. It won't matter in the sense that it won't affect the outcome of the election
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 07:06 PM
5 hrs ago

This evil clown car of incompetent goat rodeo rejects is not going to stop the Blue Tsunami.

Never forget this one absolute truth:

Trump (and ICE) is not omnipotent, and the states and the people are not powerless.

edhopper

(37,427 posts)
15. You'd be surprised
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 07:12 PM
5 hrs ago

how close some races will be to give us this tsunami.

We need the Senate and those races will be very close. A few districts will decide.

We have just been through elections where States were won or loss on a few thousand votes.

Are you sure it won't matter? I am not.

Fiendish Thingy

(23,542 posts)
16. The senate is not yet a sure thing
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 07:27 PM
5 hrs ago

I guess we will find out how hard they will try, and how hard the states and the people will push back.

Ilikepurple

(750 posts)
17. What election? There are 435 House races up for election. A possibility exists that we may lose some to "tactics"
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 08:28 PM
4 hrs ago

How many or whether it will prevent the Democratic Party from taking back the majority are the sorts of questions that might be discussed in a forum like this. I agree that having a majority and the powers that come with it are vitally important and look very promising. Although, to me controlling the house is a fundamental but not singular goal. I haven’t said or implied Trump or ICR is omnipotent nor have I said the people or states are without power. I’m not sure the bolder oft repeated aphorism is much use to me or others that want to discuss possible voter suppression in this case. We do have power, but so does the GOP. Any discussions as how we can minimize its effects leading up to the election is welcomed by me.

Wounded Bear

(64,462 posts)
14. That's why they hate mail-in voting...
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 07:08 PM
5 hrs ago

Can't intimidate people who don't have to stand in line and vote in public.

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