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Mr.Bee

(1,860 posts)
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 02:59 PM 18 hrs ago

No. More. Millionaires, Billionaires!!

I don't care what office they are running for!
No Billionaires!
No Millionaires!

We've had enough of a lesson!
Tom Steyer? Really?
I ain't fallin' for it!
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No. More. Millionaires, Billionaires!! (Original Post) Mr.Bee 18 hrs ago OP
Dude, I am a "millionaire." Happy Hoosier 18 hrs ago #1
It ain't? Mr.Bee 17 hrs ago #6
Sorry to hear that. Happy Hoosier 17 hrs ago #7
It depends on age and location too fujiyamasan 17 hrs ago #11
Likewise Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin 16 hrs ago #13
My story is similar. Gore1FL 15 hrs ago #20
I have a new name for billionaires leanforward 18 hrs ago #2
That don't win my vote Mr.Bee 18 hrs ago #3
Research more. ColoringFool 12 hrs ago #33
AGREE!!! With a caveat. Coventina 17 hrs ago #4
Even is a million bucks in a retirement account isn't "F you" money. Happy Hoosier 17 hrs ago #8
A lot of people now are "millionaires" on paper because their 401ks are rising with the market fujiyamasan 17 hrs ago #5
There's a huge difference between a millionaire and a billionaire. Sogo 17 hrs ago #9
I am from the Middle Class of 1970s Mr.Bee 17 hrs ago #10
That is correct. Disaffected 15 hrs ago #19
I frankly dont care how much money someone has DFW 16 hrs ago #12
Class Envy Locutusofborg 16 hrs ago #14
'Specially unpossible cause you can't give money away... (nt) GJGCA 16 hrs ago #15
It's also about Mr.Bee 15 hrs ago #18
Nice continuation of a Gilded Age merry-go-round there. Smokster 15 hrs ago #21
If you can afford to buy public office, you may not deserve it. Kid Berwyn 16 hrs ago #16
Thank You Mr.Bee 15 hrs ago #17
Fetterman isn't Wealthy JI7 15 hrs ago #22
A millionaire is a guy living in a 1960s starter home with 401k savings. NutmegYankee 15 hrs ago #23
Same here fujiyamasan 14 hrs ago #24
Same here brought my home in the early 90's and inherited my childhood home kimbutgar 14 hrs ago #27
To put millioaires and billionaires in perspective. Locutusofborg 14 hrs ago #25
It reads like Mr.Bee 13 hrs ago #29
Steyer: Top Democratic Donor Locutusofborg 12 hrs ago #30
Shoot The Messenger Mr.Bee 12 hrs ago #31
"YOU FOLKS"?! TO WHOM DO YOU THINK YOU'RE TALKING?? ColoringFool 12 hrs ago #34
After seeing Steyer hug and chat up the repuke Bianco after the debate tells me he is a repuke in disguise. kimbutgar 14 hrs ago #26
JUST TAX THEM NOW!!!!! a kennedy 14 hrs ago #28
I'm Sorry To Have To Inform You, But....... ColoringFool 12 hrs ago #32
All I have to say about this subject is... MerryBlooms 12 hrs ago #35
Why do you think some people run? They become millionaires after they're in office! MerryBlooms 12 hrs ago #36
What lesson? betsuni 12 hrs ago #37

Happy Hoosier

(9,573 posts)
7. Sorry to hear that.
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 03:32 PM
17 hrs ago

But it's not champagne wishes and caviar dreams here. It's a house in the 'burbs and a Honda Accord in the garage.
It's middle class retirement money, not First Class to the Maldives.

fujiyamasan

(1,921 posts)
11. It depends on age and location too
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 03:51 PM
17 hrs ago

I spoke with a friend of mine and he mentioned his dad, who works at Costco and has a 401k of close to million; along with his wife they’re around a million.

I think he said they’re in their 60s and close to retirement. They’re in a low cost of living state (Kentucky). That’s comfortable in retirement but especially if they have health issues, definitely doesn’t make them wealthy in the way you may initially think.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(136,535 posts)
13. Likewise
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 04:37 PM
16 hrs ago

I'm 68 and worked all my life.

Some folks need to read the book, "The Millionaire Next Door." Many folks like myself prefer financial security over an ostentatious lifestyle.

Gore1FL

(22,968 posts)
20. My story is similar.
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 05:46 PM
15 hrs ago

I had a spendthrift wife that set me back for three years of random spending. Other than that, I have come accustomed to living on a shoe-string. I've tried to throw everything extra into investments.
I just want to retire and not worry.

leanforward

(1,140 posts)
2. I have a new name for billionaires
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 03:10 PM
18 hrs ago

Monopolaires ! !
There needs to be a return to progressive tax rates to provide social services.
Improve what we have, would be easier.
“that is all”

Coventina

(29,824 posts)
4. AGREE!!! With a caveat.
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 03:17 PM
17 hrs ago

Some people might be "millionaires" on paper, if their house has gone up in value enough with the crazy housing prices.

I bought my tiny home in 2004 for $100,000. It's now worth $450,000. That means zilch, though, because if I sold it, I'd have to buy or rent something else at the current outrageous prices.

It still doesn't make me a millionaire, but I'm sure there are people out there in the same situation, where it does boost them to "millionaire" status.

Happy Hoosier

(9,573 posts)
8. Even is a million bucks in a retirement account isn't "F you" money.
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 03:34 PM
17 hrs ago

A million bucks in a portfolio can safely proviude $40K/yr in retirement income.
Pop the champagne corks.

fujiyamasan

(1,921 posts)
5. A lot of people now are "millionaires" on paper because their 401ks are rising with the market
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 03:20 PM
17 hrs ago

Or because of their home values. A million dollar home in California really is nothing special now.

Now, I agree about billionaires, especially hedge fund billionaires. That’s why I inherently distrust Steyer.

Sogo

(7,248 posts)
9. There's a huge difference between a millionaire and a billionaire.
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 03:42 PM
17 hrs ago

I can agree with you regarding the billionaires....

Mr.Bee

(1,860 posts)
10. I am from the Middle Class of 1970s
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 03:48 PM
17 hrs ago

Try and convince me of that difference...
One rich person was elected to office who turned his back on the rich
and gave the American People a break. That was F D R.
In my lifetime I never made more than $50,000 in a year,
and you're going to convince me to vote for you??
Go hang out at FoxNews!


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Disaffected

(6,497 posts)
19. That is correct.
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 05:44 PM
15 hrs ago

1,000 times difference. Being a "millionaire" just ain't that big a deal now.

DFW

(60,332 posts)
12. I frankly dont care how much money someone has
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 04:33 PM
16 hrs ago

It´s what (if anything) they do with it that counts. Bill Gates is determined to give away most or all of what he has earned before he dies. Good for him. I´m certainly not eager to dream up some "jealousy tax," as Heiner Geissler put it, just because he did better than I did. One of my best friends in Dallas got really lucky with his work and his investments, and amassed maybe $80 million after taxes. He is not into politics (he does donate to Democratic candidates), and certainly has no intention of spending it on himself. No private planes, and has had the same car for almost ten years. I sure as hell don´t give him suggestions what he should do with his money. He has so far given away $20+ million of what he has made to build a public park in Dallas in a low income area. He donates to money-losing cultural institutions, too (modern dance studios, etc.). He plans to donate most of the rest it, as well, depending on whether or not his wife and son are still alive (most if they are alive, all if they are not). It´s not my place to say we have to act like the NSDAP did in the 1930s, or Ceauşescu in the 1950s. I don´t think we have the right to take it from him because we know better than he does what he should be doing with it.

Between the Germans and the IRS, the two governments want to tax me at 73%. And do what with it? Finance luxury trips for Noem, Patel and Vance? Make sure there are five useless chauffeur-driven German government bureaucrats for every one needed? A jealousy tax is useless unless there is a specific, very benevolent plan for what to do with the extra revenue, and for who is going to administer it. Certainly no right wing elitist like the Trumpanzees. Certainly no socialist, who, whenever they take power, seize assets and spend the loot on themselves instead. Only a completely neutral, benevolent, charitable group of individuals could be trusted to the degree that I would hand over that much extra money to them, and I´m not sure there is an honest, competent group of individuals out there whom I would trust to do enough good to warrant the "Enteignung."

For the record, I do enjoy the significant advantage of neither wanting nor needing anyone to vote for me. Since our income does exceed the equivalent of $50,000, I guess we dodged a major bullet, there! My wife´s pension, after taxes, contributes just short of €1000 per month, though with the cost of living in the Rheinland, that does not exactly land us in the upper echelons, and while her health care is covered by German Medicare, I have no coverage at all other than Humana dental (pays maybe 10% of my out-of-pocket dental) and Blue Cross of Texas (pays pretty much nothing). And no, everything is not free in Germany, despite what utopian websites might tell you. I have to pay 100% of every medical expense I incur there. It´s still way better than paying the €30,000 per year their private health insurance quoted me as a yearly premium.

Since my wife is German, and I still work full time (we are both 74), we might indeed be better off than someone in the States (depending on where) making $50,000. But I don´t know. I care that we are neither starving nor in deep debt, and that our children are not, either. Anything over that is gravy.

Locutusofborg

(591 posts)
14. Class Envy
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 04:54 PM
16 hrs ago

Is such an ugly trait in some Democrats.
Without 2026's liberal and progressive millionaires and billionaires there wouldn't even BE a Democratic Party with enough financial resources to compete nationally with the Republicans.
Members of Congress who grew up dirt poor now earn $174,000 a year plus fringe benefits worth nearly that again. It's almost impossible NOT to be a millionaire if you are reelected to a second term.

Mr.Bee

(1,860 posts)
18. It's also about
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 05:37 PM
15 hrs ago

being able to understand those less fortunate than you,
those without a boat in the driveway,
or a trendy car,
or a house!
Those who know a $400 emergency will break them.

Smokster

(30 posts)
21. Nice continuation of a Gilded Age merry-go-round there.
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 05:50 PM
15 hrs ago

"I believe in the division of labor. You send us to Congress; we pass laws under which you make money and out of your profits, you further contribute to our campaign funds to send us back again to pass more laws to enable you to make more money."

--Boies Penrose

--------

The bottom line in such a government "of the people" is that the majority of politicians at every level of government don't serve the rank and file or "the people" as a whole. They serve themselves and their ruling class handlers who enable them to live fat and large on the rank and file's dime. In return, the rank and file, the working class, and "the people" as a whole get scraps off the ruling class table.

How many politicians will get up on the podium and declare with no mealy-mouth phony bullshit. "America, tonight, let’s make a pledge to promote the priorities of labor and the working class over the priorities of the ruling class and business owners to create a more advanced and prosperous society.”

Not many. The rest rely on the narrative you just provided to avoid all accountability for their complicity in the whole rigged game.

Kid Berwyn

(24,768 posts)
16. If you can afford to buy public office, you may not deserve it.
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 05:09 PM
16 hrs ago

I’m with you, Mr.Bee: I like people who’ve earned the honor.

Mr.Bee

(1,860 posts)
17. Thank You
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 05:27 PM
15 hrs ago

“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”
– George Santayana, The Life of Reason, 1905.

JI7

(93,784 posts)
22. Fetterman isn't Wealthy
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 05:55 PM
15 hrs ago

He only has about a million at most with most of that being the money he made as senator.

We need more like him I guess.

NutmegYankee

(16,483 posts)
23. A millionaire is a guy living in a 1960s starter home with 401k savings.
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 06:05 PM
15 hrs ago

It's not a lot anymore. I'm a millionaire at 45 by net worth, and I'm just an engineer in a lower middle class neighborhood.

fujiyamasan

(1,921 posts)
24. Same here
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 06:17 PM
14 hrs ago

My wife and I are around the same age and have about that much. I’m assuming you’re in Connecticut being the nutmeg state. It’s also a high cost of living state on average, similar to where I live (California).

kimbutgar

(27,396 posts)
27. Same here brought my home in the early 90's and inherited my childhood home
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 06:36 PM
14 hrs ago

But I’m no millionaire

Locutusofborg

(591 posts)
25. To put millioaires and billionaires in perspective.
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 06:30 PM
14 hrs ago

A billionaire is 1000 times richer than a millionaire. If a millionaire were to spend $1000 a day, they would be broke in 3 years. If a billionaire were to spend $1000 a day, it would take 2,700 years for them to run out of money.

Locutusofborg

(591 posts)
30. Steyer: Top Democratic Donor
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 08:17 PM
12 hrs ago

Tom Steyer was the number one donor to the Democratic Party in 2014. Steyer's association with the Democratic Party goes back to him being a campaign worker for Waltere Mondale in 1984.

Mr.Bee

(1,860 posts)
31. Shoot The Messenger
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 08:37 PM
12 hrs ago
Rather than focus on the message.
If you folks put as much importance and research
into who will rule over your lives as you do sports,
Go ahead and make the same mistake again.
Me, I ain't buyin' it!

kimbutgar

(27,396 posts)
26. After seeing Steyer hug and chat up the repuke Bianco after the debate tells me he is a repuke in disguise.
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 06:34 PM
14 hrs ago

And he will carry out the oligarchs and felon4547 policies of elected.

Steyer is a closet repuke!

ColoringFool

(852 posts)
32. I'm Sorry To Have To Inform You, But.......
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 08:39 PM
12 hrs ago

MANY of today's "Middle Class" are millionaires.

I have a million saved, and I retired as a public school teacher 24 years ago, and am a widow of another for 12 years.

MerryBlooms

(12,347 posts)
35. All I have to say about this subject is...
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 08:57 PM
12 hrs ago

Check their and their families stock and bank accounts, AFTER they're elected.

MerryBlooms

(12,347 posts)
36. Why do you think some people run? They become millionaires after they're in office!
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 09:03 PM
12 hrs ago

I'm thinking you're barking up the wrong tree. The amount of insider information they are given, and can play the stock market... Plus investing in military contracts...
This is why there is So much money invested in campaigns! Always follow the money!

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