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Chasstev365

(7,983 posts)
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 06:44 AM 17 hrs ago

"Patriotism is the last refuge of s scoundrel."

Samuel Johnson's famous 1775 quote, "Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel," was not a condemnation of true love of country, but a criticism of false, self-serving patriotism. He was referring to using political zeal to mask hypocritical or scoundrelly behavior. Johnson himself was patriotic but despised the misuse of political sentiment.

I submit that RELIGION is also the last refuge of s scoundrel and it's been played out right now with the Orange Scoundrel and his new found Bible and Jesus Bull Shit act.

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"Patriotism is the last refuge of s scoundrel." (Original Post) Chasstev365 17 hrs ago OP
Agreed!!! niyad 17 hrs ago #1
Yeah lonely bird 17 hrs ago #2
Don't forget patronism...A grifter needs patrons. BattleRow 15 hrs ago #8
I believe that Christian Nationalism is the generic term. littlemissmartypants 15 hrs ago #9
I don't think Republicans know the difference between faith and patriotism. They want us all to believe in God Walleye 17 hrs ago #3
They want us all to believe in their version of a god. OldBaldy1701E 17 hrs ago #5
God, I remember how haughty and self-righteous they were when they impeached Bill Clinton Walleye 16 hrs ago #6
He never had any idea what it was. OldBaldy1701E 16 hrs ago #7
I submit to you sir, that it is the first! Dread Pirate Roberts 17 hrs ago #4
It's a Holy War. littlemissmartypants 15 hrs ago #10
I agree, well said PatSeg 15 hrs ago #11
Especially for "Patriots" that never served and those whose religion is a political identity, not a spiritual faith. ChicagoTeamster 15 hrs ago #12
Exactly my point! You put it very well! Chasstev365 15 hrs ago #14
Orange Jebus is hedging his bet on getting into heaven with last minute religiosity. flashman13 15 hrs ago #13
Voltaire Paul-EM 14 hrs ago #15

Walleye

(45,152 posts)
3. I don't think Republicans know the difference between faith and patriotism. They want us all to believe in God
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 07:36 AM
17 hrs ago

OldBaldy1701E

(11,339 posts)
5. They want us all to believe in their version of a god.
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 07:43 AM
17 hrs ago

The rethugs do not care about either patriotism not religion. They care about being in power, and they will appeal to whomever they think can get them there. They are the chameleons of politics, because they will be for whatever gets them into power.

But, we don't seem to find it that upsetting, so they keep on doing it.

Walleye

(45,152 posts)
6. God, I remember how haughty and self-righteous they were when they impeached Bill Clinton
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 07:46 AM
16 hrs ago

I especially remember Lindsay Graham talking about how character really counts. I don’t know what he thinks character is now.

OldBaldy1701E

(11,339 posts)
7. He never had any idea what it was.
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 08:31 AM
16 hrs ago

Like the others, he does and says whatever will get him elected.

If enough of the nation suddenly decided that removing all left arms on newborns was a thing, he would be right there with a machete and a smile.

Dread Pirate Roberts

(2,021 posts)
4. I submit to you sir, that it is the first!
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 07:42 AM
17 hrs ago

Ambrose Bierce, the guy who wrote Incident at Owl Creek came up with the retort--"With all due respect to an enlightened but inferior lexicographer, I beg to submit that it is the first"

littlemissmartypants

(34,138 posts)
10. It's a Holy War.
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 09:03 AM
15 hrs ago

The Violent Take it By Force by Matthew D. Taylor with The Freedom From Religion Foundation. Interview ~ 30"




Pamela Brown on her new documentary about Christian Nationalism.

ChicagoTeamster

(1,114 posts)
12. Especially for "Patriots" that never served and those whose religion is a political identity, not a spiritual faith.
Fri Apr 24, 2026, 09:33 AM
15 hrs ago

Johnson was implying that individuals—particularly politicians—use religious rhetoric as a final, cynical shield to justify wrongful actions, distract from misconduct, or gain power when all other defenses fail.

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