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This sense of invulnerability has deep psychological ramifications. If everything is free and nothing matters, then the world and other people exist only to be acted upon, if they are acknowledged at all. This is different from classic narcissism, in which a grandiose but fragile self-image can mask deep insecurity. What Im talking about is a self-definition in which the individual grows to the size of the universe, and the universe vanishes. Asked recently if there is any check on his power, President Trumphimself a billionaire, and by far the richest president in American historysaid, Yeah, there is one thing. My own morality. My own mind. Its the only thing that can stop me. Not domestic or international law, not the will of the voters, not God or the centuries-old morality of civic and religious life.
Decades of research in developmental psychology have shown that moral reasoning develops through consequencesnot punishment, necessarily, but experiencing the effects of your actions on others, receiving honest feedback, having to accommodate reality as it actually is rather than as you wish it to be. Its not that the wealthy become evil; its that their environment stops teaching them the things that nonwealthy people are forced to learn simply by living in a world that pushes back. When you can buy your way out of any mistake, when you can fire anyone who disagrees with you, when your social circle consists entirely of people who need something from you, the basic mechanism by which humans learn that other people are real goes dark.
When Peter Thiel said, I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible, he wasnt talking about your freedom. He was talking about his own. You dont exist. When Musk took a chainsaw to the federal government as part of the inside joke he called DOGE, he did so with the air of a man who believed that nothing matterspoverty, chaos, human suffering. He was having fun. It didnt even matter that the entire destructive exercise ultimately yielded no practical financial gains. For him, the outcome was a foregone conclusion: He could only win, because losing had lost its meaning.
The Atlantic via the Archive
https://archive.ph/DA1kQ
Moostache
(11,231 posts)They are a systemic threat to humanity and should be eliminated immediately by any means necessary... ALL OF THEM.
AllaN01Bear
(29,686 posts)City Lights
(25,929 posts)ms liberty
(11,288 posts)And they might not like it. People will not take this forever and rhe ultra rich are not immune from the consequences. History. It's a real thing.
progressoid
(53,263 posts)The thing they don't control is people like Luigi Mangione. And they know it.
illionaires are more concerned than ever about the safety of themselves and their families.
Tensions spiked after the fatal shooting of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson in December. Then came the January kidnapping of French cryptocurrency founder David Balland, who was held for ransom for two days while the assailants mutilated his hand, followed by an April arson attack on the home of billionaire Steve Sarowitz by a suspect who also made ransom and kidnapping threats, prosecutors say.
These assaults have come as resentment toward the rich and powerful increases amid wealth inequality, overseas wars and hyper-polarized politics. A recent Emerson survey, for instance, reported that 41% of voters aged 18 to 29 believe Luigi Mangiones alleged murder of Thompson was acceptable. (Mangione has pleaded not guilty). Risk management company Nisos found that online threats against CEOs increased 41% as well in the six weeks following the shooting.
All of this has led the nations wealthiest people and the companies that employ them to seek out personal security at increased rates over the past few months, 13 firms tell Forbes. Five companies said the number of inquiries for their services was among the highest ever, while four said it was the highest. Allied Universal, the biggest provider of private security guards in the world, says its getting 1,500% more threat assessment requests than this time last year.
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Hiring a somewhat reputable bodyguard on the cheap might cost as little as $120,000 per year. But thats rarely what experts recommend to mitigate risk. In fact, most U.S. billionaires dont have a full-time bodyguard. Among the more common services: A team that monitors the internet for threats and leaked personal information (typical cost at the most elite firms: $200,000 to $300,000 per year for sophisticated 24-7 coverage); personal drivers who also have security training ($250,000 to $500,000 for two drivers); residential security, including cameras and armed guards ($750,000 to over $1 million); and protection while traveling (costs vary based on location). A full executive protection team, which tends to involve all of the above, plus part-time bodyguards who have medical training and professionals who secure sites before a billionaire arrives, costs at least $2 millionand frequently much morewith team members often making $200,000 each, according to the experts polled by Forbes.
These costs are sometimes covered by companies as part of executives compensation packages. The U.S. tax code allows employees to write off that benefit as long as theres a demonstrable cause for safety concerns. Last year, Snap paid $2.8 million for CEO and cofounder Evan Spiegels personal security. Alphabet paid $8.3 million for CEO Sundar Pichai. Meta paid $24.4 million to protect Mark Zuckerberg and his family.
Zuckerberg likely pays additional security fees out of pocket. He has among the biggest executive protection teams of any American billionaireprobably around 20 full-time people, two experts estimate. Hes incredibly adventurous and does all these wild and crazy things because he can, says Michael Julian, CEO of MPS Security. That guys got a full team everywhere he goes, if he goes on a run or mountain biking. Hes got a team that does nothing but water sports, thats trained and knows all the life-saving stuff.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/monicahunter-hart/2025/05/09/how-the-ultra-wealthy-are-protecting-themselves-against-arson-attacks-kidnapping-and-worse/
GoodRaisin
(10,970 posts)OGBuzz
(423 posts)so it's not like it would have a huge impact on humanity. Just less super-yachts and 100,000 sq ft mansions.
keroro gunsou
(2,306 posts)has become batman or iron man or green arrow... such slackers.
fujiyamasan
(1,887 posts)The Atlantic has some very interesting and thought provoking stuff Im also referring to the article on Kash Patel recently.
Johnny2X2X
(24,320 posts)I don't think that people talk enough about this topic. Any discussions of the super rich just devolved into short memes, but it is really a complex topic that I don't think enough people really understand. I don't think the average person understands what drives the super rich, average people only think of things in terms of material comforts and not having to work. The super rich are all about power and legacy. They feel the need to exercise power over others and that drives them more than owning a super yacht. And a super yacht isn't even about having something that's all that useful, it's about a demonstration of power and status.
modrepub
(4,140 posts)This as extremistan vs mediocristan or simply man-made systems versus organic/natural systems. A simple analogy, wealth versus body. In a normal sample of humans, their wealth can be many orders of magnitude different. But humans can at best maybe be an order or two different; you never expect to see a 25 ft tall person walking around but millionaires and billionaires are by comparison quite common.
Essentially, weve created a system that doesnt have biological controls to keep from getting out of wack (until theres a catastrophic system failure).
My guess is weve removed any possible mechanism of control by allowing big businesses to continue operating after theyve caused huge systemic financial breakdowns, or too big to fail. Without real consequences for bad behavior, the same folks are propped back up to make the same mistakes again.
lostnfound
(17,561 posts)You build a company, you own it, you control it.
But if at some point you get so rich that it lets you buy 4 or 5 other companies, or 10 or 20
then what are you being rewarded for? If you built a nice car company or delivery company, and you get rewarded by being able to also buy a social media company or a newspaper, what did you do to deserve to have control over those institutions? Let alone control over the government?
The simplistic notions used to praise capitalism in our childhood upbringing become more and more absurd, when control over vast reaches of enterprise across many industries is in the hands of the same not-so-big club of people who coordinate their activities and their political spending.
One day we all wake up on a spaceship, being charged for the air we breathe.
Johnny2X2X
(24,320 posts)Even Elon for instance is not driven at all by material possessions, he's driven by power over others and legacy.
magicarpet
(18,931 posts)Expecting people to bow and curtsey whenever they walk in the room.
(Hey King Farouk - I have a rotten tomato here,.. would you mind if I throw it at your head ?)
pat_k
(13,512 posts)See research in the post below, but essentially, humans evolved to share. Hoarding community resources -- which is basically what amassing great wealth is -- undermines basic parts of what it is to be a feeling, connected, being.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100221186304#post41
Hey Joe
(698 posts)thing as a billionaire.
When they dont even have to acknowledge the rights, or even the existence of others on this planet, they are not compelled to be a part of the human race.
Thus, the have the power and compunction to make whatever kind of society that furthers their own interests and existence which harms the rest of humanity in so many ways.
AllaN01Bear
(29,686 posts)its easier for a camel to fit through an eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to go to heaven.
patphil
(9,142 posts)I think that very accurately sums things up.
The comments on Peter Thiel and Elon Musk are absolutely correct.
We have a situation where money, power, and control have birthed monsters who are running wild across the planet as if it's their personal play thing.
Joinfortmill
(21,372 posts)Mysterian
(6,568 posts)It's mind-boggling to see working people worshipping an obvious con man like Cadet Bonespurs.
kimbutgar
(27,366 posts)And I want to see that movie mentioned in the article.
Irish_Dem
(81,869 posts)Untouchable.
Wounded Bear
(64,442 posts)Martin Eden
(15,731 posts)Wealth and power should carry with it ethics, empathy, and a desire to build a more sustainable future with equal rights and opportunity for all humanity.
Dangerously, the opposite is true. The level of wealth the article addresses turns these multi billionaires into sociopathic lords whose vision for the future is unfettered freedom for themselves and subservience or worse for everyone else.
pat_k
(13,512 posts)Wealth -- not even extreme wealth -- reduces compassion and morality:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100221186304#post41
paleotn
(22,448 posts)Until heads end up on pikes or in a basket in front of a guillotine. Im not joking. The French masses discovered the other, much smaller estates couldnt kill all of them, or even enough of them to matter, and then it was on. The French Revolution.
My response to the zillionaires is, we can do this easy. Or we can do this real easy. Their choice. Thats not hyperbole. Its a warning.
Wednesdays
(22,830 posts)However, the Revolution began in 1789, but there were various monarchs and emperors along the way until a permanent republic was finally established in 1870.
SupportSanity
(1,587 posts)Billionaires can exist so long as they dont have the power to make life immeasurably worse for regular Americans.
Without guardrails, all bets are off.
progressoid
(53,263 posts)I suspect I will only be able to finish it with a couple more drinks at hand.
multigraincracker
(37,816 posts)Death is the final equalizer.
misanthrope
(9,532 posts)is that almost everyone can't see this for themselves by observing those around us, those in the news and learning about human nature.
DBoon
(25,065 posts)The rest of us must offer sacrifices to them in the hope they do not squash us as bugs.
malaise
(296,913 posts)Rec
OGBuzz
(423 posts)If Elon Musk didn't earn another dollar and decided to spend $1 million per hour, 24 hours a day, 24/7, it would take him 91.3 years to go broke.
LymphocyteLover
(9,957 posts)We somehow HAVE to tax these motherfuckers out of existence.
Mr.Bee
(1,849 posts)There are three classes in the world;
The Trillionaires,
The Billionaires,
and The Millionaires.
we don't belong.
We are ants, worker drones.
They will eliminate all the worker drone jobs.
Through robotics and Ai.
UpInArms
(55,089 posts)Last edited Mon Apr 20, 2026, 07:16 PM - Edit history (1)
there were receptionists in every office, secretaries for every boss, aides for the important workers
Ushers in theaters, guys who pumped gas
so many jobs lost
Uncle Joe
(65,287 posts)Thanks for the thread UpInArms
yellow dahlia
(6,173 posts)With that imagined worth (not monetary) comes a sense of lifting up on a pedestal. From that comes lack of accountability.
Insulation from accountability is a bad thing.
3catwoman3
(29,588 posts)...if he meant only his own mortality could stop him.
May that please happen soon.
UpInArms
(55,089 posts)a blood clot
Maru Kitteh
(31,878 posts)at the very least. So theres been one plucky little blood clot that tried to save the world. Maybe more.
He says hes gobbling down full-size aspirin every day so he can have nice thin blood coursing through his veins. Maybe we can get an uncontrollable bleed next. A nice triple A or something on the Circle of Willis.
Thatd do.
Maru Kitteh
(31,878 posts)That pretty much sums it up nicely I think. We are chess pieces. Scenery. Faceless extras on the set of their lives. Cattle.
UpInArms
(55,089 posts)I don't know where the term came from, but "One Fodder Unit" became a popular term on the Republican cocktail party circuit in 1985. According to them, each individual American citizen equals One Fodder Unit.
Today we have the results of that. When George Bush left office, the federal budget deficit was actually twice what they claimed it was. They were able to hide about half of the federal budget deficit through the Bush Regime. Then Clinton came in, and he had a pretty good idea of what the problems were up front. That's one reason why he kept Alan Greenspan, by the way. It was because the marketplaces both here and abroad had a lot of faith in Greenspan. He told Greenspan early on that we're going to have to bring interest rates down and flood the market with money, which was done in '93. Interest rates fell precipitously, and then there was the sharp spike in '94. This was necessary to bleed some of the problems out of the economy.
Al Martin had the receipts
https://web.archive.org/web/20120725043928/http://www.greatchange.org/ov-martin,case_for_sedition.html
jfz9580m
(17,387 posts)I cannot help but think though that increasing wealth disparity across the world would allow corrupt politicians and tech companies to make a case for the type of exploitative and imvasive mapping of personal space and fueled by ones own and other peoples data as oil- that too in the most cynical and meretricious contexts imaginable often I would be willing to wager. I really hope my govt here in India has better sense than to force this misguided rot as development.
It is just a creepy turning back of the clock on womens rights and human rights.
And our brains relationship with information is changing as I just started understanding how in this Black Mirroresque way if your brain is prone to picking up nonsensical patterns that are perhaps notable for their absurdity, but that gets really old really fast.
I dont know. I am not exactly anywhere near fringe in behavior and cheap shots aside though, I would have assumed most people took their lives seriously and any mismatch netween behavior and stated motivations
malice and or stupidity should not be the go to guesses.
The systems humans have in place are robust enough when humans exert rights we already have instead of using the tails of the distribution wrt bad behavior aka oligarchs and politicians as the mean with the dumbest counterpropaganda ever.
Ha
pat_k
(13,512 posts)In one study, we showed undergraduate students of different backgrounds pictures of kids with cancer. Students from lower-class backgrounds had a high vagus nerve response. But we didnt get much response at all in upper-class students. In fact, in every study weve done poorer people show a stronger vagus nerve response. To me, thats tough proof.
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Humans evolved to share. Were meant to share, thats how people survived in early hunter-gatherer societies. When you dont share, you get tremendous social inequality, and thats whats going on today.
This inequality affects peoples health, and it affects our greater public health. When we study the emotional profiles of people from lower class backgrounds, theres a lot of anxiety, a continual sense of being under threat, a sense of shame, a sense of being stigmatized. And thats bad for your body and bad for your health.
But in this country, most of our political leadersas well as those who influence themare wealthy. And, in general, the wealthier they are the less interested they are in policies that help the needy.
Studies found wealthier individuals are more likely to cut off drivers in traffic, take more candy intended for children, and exhibit unethical behavior in experiments.
If Schopenhauer is correct in his analysis that compassion is the basis of morality, than a lack of compassion would be highly correlated with a lack of morality... and studies like those discuss above appear to support this.
Smokster
(24 posts)And unfortunately that's about the only thing that actually "trickles down" in our society.
Poor man wanna be rich. Rich man wanna be king. And a king ain't satisfied 'Til he rules everything.
Xolodno
(7,361 posts)...a straw breaks the camels back, nothing major, just a society that says enough. Many of the extreme wealthy probably have completely forgotten or become dismissive it could happen to them. They think their wealth can insulate them. They've crapped enough on communist and socialist ideology to think no one would ever use it as a means to bring them down, and they are right. But when shit hits the fan, usually there isn't one underlying ideology, just anger and frustration. The ideological ones just take advantage later after most of the work is done.
They may be shrewd and successful business people, but students of history, they are not.