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applegrove

(132,506 posts)
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 05:57 PM 5 hrs ago

It's so creepy that these people see major declines in teen pregnancy as a bad thing.

Last edited Wed Apr 15, 2026, 06:36 PM - Edit history (1)

It’s so creepy that these people see major declines in teen pregnancy as a bad thing.

Matt Novak (@paleofuture.bsky.social) 2026-04-15T19:12:37.949Z


Applegrove: What about immigration?

And of course we should move toward fewer work hours because thanks to technology we don't need everyone on the planet working a 60 hour work week to produce what we need anymore.

It's simple and obvious that more people would have more babies if they could afford it. But right now they can't.

Khashoggi's Ghost (@urocklive1.bsky.social) 2026-04-15T20:09:37.568Z
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It's so creepy that these people see major declines in teen pregnancy as a bad thing. (Original Post) applegrove 5 hrs ago OP
But then they would shame teenagers for having sex outside of marriage EdmondDantes_ 5 hrs ago #1
The drop in birth-rates is a crisis worldwide MadameButterfly 5 hrs ago #7
We need to figure it out because you can't have infinite population growth EdmondDantes_ 3 hrs ago #18
Of course, the concern is the decrease in the white birthrate. J_William_Ryan 5 hrs ago #2
Coming soon. Marcuse 2 hrs ago #21
Lebensborn DBoon 5 hrs ago #3
If she wants to talk about "an existential threat to humanity" ... perfessor 5 hrs ago #4
I'm sure that GOPers are upset Mad_Machine76 5 hrs ago #5
Translation: "WE NEED MORE WHITE BABIES!" Wednesdays 5 hrs ago #6
Further translation: "AGE OF CONSENT IS TOO HIGH!" durablend 3 hrs ago #15
Well that's just math. Iggo 2 hrs ago #22
I'm outraged and baffled Vogon_Glory 4 hrs ago #8
Katie is such a hypocrite mgardener 3 hrs ago #9
People should grow up before having babies, legal or not. twodogsbarking 3 hrs ago #10
These people... skypilot 3 hrs ago #11
What we need right now... purr-rat beauty 3 hrs ago #12
Mother Earth is quite happy with negative birth rates and is probably working on her own way to shake us off ;) n/t Cheezoholic 3 hrs ago #13
100% project 2025 Nigrum Cattus 3 hrs ago #14
There is a correlation between higher multigraincracker 2 hrs ago #19
They want kids to have kids. But why do immigrant kids need to leave? IronLionZion 3 hrs ago #16
Skin color. Iggo 2 hrs ago #23
More debt is not the only result of tax breaks for the rich. Festivito 3 hrs ago #17
I said, in a related thread, that, in ,y professional pediatric opinion... 3catwoman3 2 hrs ago #20

EdmondDantes_

(1,940 posts)
1. But then they would shame teenagers for having sex outside of marriage
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 06:02 PM
5 hrs ago

As for immigration, the Millers aren't big on people with too much color and the remaining places that do still have a higher reproduction rates aren't pale enough.

MadameButterfly

(4,097 posts)
7. The drop in birth-rates is a crisis worldwide
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 06:25 PM
5 hrs ago

The US was one of the few countries not facing the economic ramifications of this because so many people want to immigrate here.
Conservative fail to understand the economic benefits immigrants offer our country, and instead are pushing us toward the crisis every other country is working hard to solve. The only solution as they see it is to force white women to have babies whether they want them or not.

EdmondDantes_

(1,940 posts)
18. We need to figure it out because you can't have infinite population growth
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 08:18 PM
3 hrs ago

Yeah a lot of our economies are built on constant growth, but that has to come to an end. It will require a lot of reorganizing around retirement funding.

J_William_Ryan

(3,515 posts)
2. Of course, the concern is the decrease in the white birthrate.
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 06:08 PM
5 hrs ago

Classic, fundamental fascism – the fascist right’s obsession with birthrates.

DBoon

(25,049 posts)
3. Lebensborn
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 06:08 PM
5 hrs ago
Lebensborn e.V. IPA : [ˈleɪbənzˌbɔːrn], German : [ˈleːbənsˌbɔʁn] (literally: "Fount of Life&quot was a secret, SS-initiated, state-registered association in Nazi Germany with the stated goal of increasing the number of children born who met the Nazi standards of "racially pure" and "healthy" Aryans, based on Nazi eugenics (also called "racial hygiene" by some eugenicists). Lebensborn was established by Heinrich Himmler, and provided welfare to its mostly unmarried mothers, encouraged anonymous births by unmarried women at their maternity homes, and mediated adoption of children by likewise "racially pure" and "healthy" parents, particularly SS members and their families. The Cross of Honour of the German Mother was given to the women who bore the most Aryan children.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensborn

Any unfathomably cruel policy by the Trump administration will always mirror what the German Nazis tried to do.

Especially if someone with the last name of "Miller" is involved

perfessor

(383 posts)
4. If she wants to talk about "an existential threat to humanity" ...
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 06:08 PM
5 hrs ago

I have thoughts. And those thoughts have nothing to do with birth rates. More to do with autocratic warmongers and cult-like followers.

Mad_Machine76

(24,970 posts)
5. I'm sure that GOPers are upset
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 06:12 PM
5 hrs ago

because it means less of them are getting girls pregnant at an age where their fertility is supposedly at its peak.

GOP is never beating those PDFile allegations.

Also, are they confusing fertility rates with birth rates?

Vogon_Glory

(10,312 posts)
8. I'm outraged and baffled
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 06:27 PM
4 hrs ago

I was one of those progressives who WANTED the teen pregnancy rate to go down. I believed (and still believe) that one of the best ways out of poverty is for young girls (as well as their responsible male partners) is to get an education and some capital so they can get married and THEN have a baby. I SEE NO REASOL WHATSOEVER WHY I SHOULD TURN AROUND AND CHANGE MY MIND.

Working one’s way out of poverty and social mobility USED TO BE part of the American dream, a dream that still ought to ought to be obtainable for ALL young Americans, regardless of race, gender, or ethnicity. That MAGA Republicans and their more moderate. allies have abandoned this trope is yet another betrayal af Americans, particularly young Americans starting on the path to adulthood.



If there were still any moderate Republicans, even Reagan-era Republicans who USED to believe that younger Americans should wait until they were adults before baby-making, I’d call on them to identify and then organize to forcibly sideline each and every ideologue and influencer pushing this obnoxious concept.

Unfortunately it looks like even those Republicans are fading away into irrelevancy just like the Ripon Republicans did a couple of generations ago. Or they
It spines have turned to jelly, which is the same thing.

mgardener

(2,375 posts)
9. Katie is such a hypocrite
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 07:32 PM
3 hrs ago

She was 29 when she married.

I guess she was too busy getting an education and furthering her career to think about having babies.

twodogsbarking

(18,948 posts)
10. People should grow up before having babies, legal or not.
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 07:40 PM
3 hrs ago

Marrying your first cousing ain't right at all.

skypilot

(9,134 posts)
11. These people...
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 07:45 PM
3 hrs ago

...get more twisted and perverse with each passing day. I don't even know what to say anymore.

Cheezoholic

(3,773 posts)
13. Mother Earth is quite happy with negative birth rates and is probably working on her own way to shake us off ;) n/t
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 07:56 PM
3 hrs ago

Nigrum Cattus

(1,341 posts)
14. 100% project 2025
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 08:03 PM
3 hrs ago

Two academics have argued that the "harmful over-consumption of schooling" is responsible for the plummeting birth rate across the U.S.

Jay P. Greene and Lindsey M. Burke, both Ph.Ds, are concerned that other Americans may be becoming unnecessarily educated. An overview of their argument was published on Monday on the website of the Heritage Foundation, a think tank where Burke is the director of the Center for Education Policy and Greene is a senior research fellow.

The Heritage Foundation is the group behind Project 2025, the conservative manifesto for how the U.S. should be restructured under incoming President Donald Trump.
here is the link to the whole article https://www.newsweek.com/birth-rate-population-timebomb-education-project-2025-1998690

IronLionZion

(51,380 posts)
16. They want kids to have kids. But why do immigrant kids need to leave?
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 08:05 PM
3 hrs ago

And any US born citizens need to leave for being brown anchor babies or stealing jobs or whatever.

Festivito

(13,896 posts)
17. More debt is not the only result of tax breaks for the rich.
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 08:05 PM
3 hrs ago

More money in the hands of the rich means less money in the hands of people making families.

Children are less affordable than they used to be.

I do not need to describe the logical result.

3catwoman3

(29,548 posts)
20. I said, in a related thread, that, in ,y professional pediatric opinion...
Wed Apr 15, 2026, 08:52 PM
2 hrs ago

...the birth rate in the 15-18 yr old demographic should be 0%. Personally,, I would also say that for 19, but at least they are a year into legal adulthood then.

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