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spanone

(141,743 posts)
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 09:54 PM 12 hrs ago

***Looks like the peace talks are over***

I’m shocked since we sent our best negotiators.

Ron Filipkowski (@ronfilipkowski.bsky.social) 2026-04-12T01:47:32.239Z


Vance: But we just could not get to a situation where the Iranians were willing to accept our terms.
We weren't able to make any headway.


AP: US Vice President JD Vance says talks with Iran ended after 21 hours without reaching agreement

ISLAMABAD (AP) — U.S. Vice President JD Vance said negotiations ended early Sunday between the United States and Iran without a peace deal after the Iranians refused to accept American terms to not develop a nuclear weapon.

The high-stakes talks ended after 21 hours, Vance said, with the vice president in constant communication with U.S. President Donald Trump and others in the administration.

“But the simple fact is that we need to see an affirmative commitment that they will not seek a nuclear weapon, and they will not seek the tools that would enable them to quickly achieve a nuclear weapon,” Vance told reporters. “That is the core goal of the president of the United States. And that’s what we’ve tried to achieve through these negotiations.”

The vice president said he spoke with Trump “a half dozen times, a dozen times, over the past 21 hours” and also spoke with Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent and Adm. Brad Cooper, head of the United States Central Command.

https://apnews.com/article/iran-us-israel-trump-lebanon-april-11-2026-2be904aee3f804892336730279e054b9
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***Looks like the peace talks are over*** (Original Post) spanone 12 hrs ago OP
They opened a big ol' can of worms! True Dough 12 hrs ago #1
why isn't the great dealmaker drumpf personally handling this???????????? Takket 12 hrs ago #2
Brain Spurs. Maru Kitteh 12 hrs ago #6
He is handling it, by phone, that is WHY they can not get a deal. Bev54 11 hrs ago #40
Da fuck you talkin'? He's a great deal maker. 3Hotdogs 10 hrs ago #46
Vance was probably his usual condescending dickish self and treated the Iranians Ocelot II 12 hrs ago #3
It sounds like our way or the highway....so one meeting, eh? spanone 12 hrs ago #5
They negotiated for a whole 21 hours. Red Mountain 3 hrs ago #52
+1 dalton99a 11 hrs ago #35
That's quite a visual and probably very accurate. chicoescuela 10 hrs ago #43
PREACH IT OCELOT II Skittles 10 hrs ago #44
Yep BeneteauBum 9 hrs ago #48
I think Jared and Witkoff were just there for the cameras underpants 2 hrs ago #54
Of the 21 hours, I wonder how many were Vance critiquing their outfits. Scrivener7 2 hrs ago #55
country is in the middle of a war, and the president is at a UFC event, while the VP announced peace talks have failed Takket 12 hrs ago #4
Does he go in the dressing room and grab em leftstreet 12 hrs ago #11
ADVICE FOR YOU TAKKET Skittles 10 hrs ago #45
Being a diplomat is not a cosplay event. yellow dahlia 12 hrs ago #7
DOGE saw to it that those experts with the displacedvermoter 12 hrs ago #8
So much talent, experience, and institutional memory lost. yellow dahlia 12 hrs ago #14
Nothing efficient about what they did. It was destruction - plain and simple. yellow dahlia 11 hrs ago #31
" Send in the experts and someone with the skill sets. " AverageOldGuy 12 hrs ago #20
Yup. So much dismantling and destruction. yellow dahlia 11 hrs ago #32
Bluster Diplomacy thought crime 12 hrs ago #9
The US bombed Iran, but the US has "terms?" leftstreet 12 hrs ago #10
Has anyone asked Trump why the US, as the "winner" newdeal2 12 hrs ago #22
The man can't place an order at a donut shop, SamuelTheThird 12 hrs ago #12
Meanwhile MSNOW is showing Rachel reruns & CNN Bill Maher reruns spanone 12 hrs ago #13
Is it polite to say: AverageOldGuy 12 hrs ago #19
looks like more war starting very soon rollin74 12 hrs ago #15
Gotta empty the armories so Uncle Sam is forced to buy more from Trump's Donor Class Attilatheblond 11 hrs ago #33
Possibly, but we were losing aircraft at an unsustainable rate and, hopefully, don't want more of that. /nt artemisia1 9 hrs ago #50
Probably should have sent Tim Walz, much more likable guy. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist 12 hrs ago #16
Gosh! Being such a natural diplomat, JD usually seems so lovable and is so good at getting folk on his side! struggle4progress 12 hrs ago #17
But he wrote a book about stupid people doing stupid things for stupid reasons! What's not to love? Scrivener7 2 hrs ago #56
Am I ever shocked and surprised AverageOldGuy 12 hrs ago #18
Damn does donald have him on zoom? Lifeafter70 12 hrs ago #21
I heard trmp say today 'i don't care if we have a deal' spanone 11 hrs ago #28
He doesn't Lifeafter70 11 hrs ago #30
So dweller 12 hrs ago #23
The couch at the head of the table was probably a bad idea. hay rick 11 hrs ago #24
The guyliner didnt help,either. BattleRow 11 hrs ago #27
Given the way he talked to Zelensky I'm not surprised they told him to FRO. BannonsLiver 11 hrs ago #25
JD Vance is about as undeserving as Jay Leno with regards to prominent positions. Crowman2009 11 hrs ago #26
Like we expected anything else from this group. Figarosmom 11 hrs ago #29
Well that was quick! orangecrush 11 hrs ago #34
I remember the old time 'shuttle diplomacy' where envoys would fly back & forth spanone 11 hrs ago #36
When you have no cards - no deal blue blues 11 hrs ago #37
Jesus Christ spanone 11 hrs ago #38
This message was self-deleted by its author spanone 11 hrs ago #39
Wow, after listening to the local news kacekwl 11 hrs ago #41
Trump surrendered Tuesday, and usually Johonny 11 hrs ago #42
The guy can't make plausible small talk in a doughnut shop. Aristus 10 hrs ago #47
I'm sure there were no good faith negotiations...only an ultimatum BeneteauBum 9 hrs ago #49
So Trump wants the Obama deal that he trashed. C_U_L8R 7 hrs ago #51
Traitors. spanone 2 hrs ago #53
Yep malaise 2 hrs ago #57
Toothpaste back into the tube Ruby the Liberal 1 hr ago #58

True Dough

(26,843 posts)
1. They opened a big ol' can of worms!
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 09:57 PM
12 hrs ago

And now we'll all suffer more consequences. Complete shit show!

Maru Kitteh

(31,824 posts)
6. Brain Spurs.
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 10:06 PM
12 hrs ago

5 times over. The biggliest brain spurs like nobody has ever seen before.

Bev54

(13,452 posts)
40. He is handling it, by phone, that is WHY they can not get a deal.
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 11:32 PM
11 hrs ago

He has no idea how to do it. He only knows how to bully not how to negotiate.

3Hotdogs

(15,401 posts)
46. Da fuck you talkin'? He's a great deal maker.
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 12:04 AM
10 hrs ago

He even wrote a book about how to do it.

Why just last week, a message came from Iran headquarters through diplomatic channels. "Sir, we don't want to negotiate with you. We know we will lose out with any attempt to reach a deal. You're too good at it. Please send your son, Fredo to negotiate Or maybe Tommy Tuberville and we will happily begin negotiations. But Sir, you are too good at negotiating,."

"It was like when I negotiated the end of the conflict with Nicar ---or maybe it was Venezuela. Nobody had ever seen anything like it."

Ocelot II

(130,729 posts)
3. Vance was probably his usual condescending dickish self and treated the Iranians
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 10:04 PM
12 hrs ago

like he treated Zelenskyy, while Witkoff and Kushner just sat there smiling stupidly with their peckers in their hands.

Red Mountain

(2,357 posts)
52. They negotiated for a whole 21 hours.
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 07:10 AM
3 hrs ago

Worked REALLY hard.

Will probably have spent more time in the air getting there and back than negotiating.

underpants

(196,707 posts)
54. I think Jared and Witkoff were just there for the cameras
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 07:53 AM
2 hrs ago

The Iranians were very clear that they wouldn’t talk to either of them. This seems to be Trump and J. V. having them there in a “YOU can’t tell ME what to do” kind of way.

Takket

(23,727 posts)
4. country is in the middle of a war, and the president is at a UFC event, while the VP announced peace talks have failed
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 10:04 PM
12 hrs ago

every time i think drumpf and the USA have hit rock bottom.......... another day happens

Skittles

(171,981 posts)
45. ADVICE FOR YOU TAKKET
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 11:58 PM
10 hrs ago

there *IS* no low for repukes; they will always, ALWAYS find a way to go lower.....GUARANTEED

yellow dahlia

(6,082 posts)
7. Being a diplomat is not a cosplay event.
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 10:07 PM
12 hrs ago

Send in the experts and someone with the skill sets.

But no! They sent in the clowns.

newdeal2

(5,472 posts)
22. Has anyone asked Trump why the US, as the "winner"
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 10:40 PM
12 hrs ago

Is negotiating in the first place? I always thought the victor imposes the terms on the loser.

SamuelTheThird

(1,190 posts)
12. The man can't place an order at a donut shop,
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 10:19 PM
12 hrs ago

and he's spearheading tis extremely difficult negotiation?

rollin74

(2,324 posts)
15. looks like more war starting very soon
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 10:23 PM
12 hrs ago

the U.S. has been reloading with a lot more ammo coming into the region over the past several days

we'll have to see if Trump now makes good on his threat of massive infrastructure attacks

artemisia1

(1,892 posts)
50. Possibly, but we were losing aircraft at an unsustainable rate and, hopefully, don't want more of that. /nt
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 01:39 AM
9 hrs ago

struggle4progress

(126,345 posts)
17. Gosh! Being such a natural diplomat, JD usually seems so lovable and is so good at getting folk on his side!
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 10:29 PM
12 hrs ago

Scrivener7

(59,690 posts)
56. But he wrote a book about stupid people doing stupid things for stupid reasons! What's not to love?
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 08:00 AM
2 hrs ago

And then he ...

Well, that's all he did. But Peter Theil likes him!

Lifeafter70

(1,060 posts)
21. Damn does donald have him on zoom?
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 10:40 PM
12 hrs ago

"with the vice president in constant communication with U.S. president Donald Trump and others in the administration. "
I just saw him shaking hands with Rogan at the UFC fights in Florida with his new best bro Rubio.

They must have brought the "cone of silence" with them.

spanone

(141,743 posts)
28. I heard trmp say today 'i don't care if we have a deal'
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 10:57 PM
11 hrs ago

And MARCO RUBIO SECRETARY OF STATE is at a FUCKING fake boxing match.

Figarosmom

(12,250 posts)
29. Like we expected anything else from this group.
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 10:57 PM
11 hrs ago

Iran has absolutely no incentive not to build the bomb now. Why would they say yeah, sure, we will just let you destroy us without trying to defend ourselves?

spanone

(141,743 posts)
36. I remember the old time 'shuttle diplomacy' where envoys would fly back & forth
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 11:20 PM
11 hrs ago

trying to come to means to end conflicts....

spanone

(141,743 posts)
38. Jesus Christ
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 11:32 PM
11 hrs ago

Here he is tonight. Working hard to end his War in Iran and make life more affordable for Americans like he promised.

Ron Filipkowski (@ronfilipkowski.bsky.social) 2026-04-12T01:37:39.461Z

Response to spanone (Original post)

kacekwl

(9,179 posts)
41. Wow, after listening to the local news
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 11:33 PM
11 hrs ago

breathlessly talking about High Stakes negotiations like there are serious people involved.

Johonny

(26,279 posts)
42. Trump surrendered Tuesday, and usually
Sat Apr 11, 2026, 11:35 PM
11 hrs ago

Post surrender you don't get the other side to agree to your former terms. I mean, duh!

Meanwhile Trump will declare victory and the war will or won't continue...

Aristus

(72,276 posts)
47. The guy can't make plausible small talk in a doughnut shop.
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 12:32 AM
10 hrs ago

Why would anyone think he could handle negotiations in an international forum?

Ruby the Liberal

(26,677 posts)
58. Toothpaste back into the tube
Sun Apr 12, 2026, 09:26 AM
1 hr ago

Guess what happens when you rip up an agreement, attack a sovereign nation - and lose.

Are we great again?

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