Like Hitler asking Russia to retreat off of German territory and pay reparations in April of 1945.

iran doesn't have much leverage other than their threat to the Global (particularly Asian) Economy

And the US is running warships through the Strait of Hormuz today to prove the point.

Probably not.

lol

and yes, if things get to scorched earth territory, the rest of the oil infrastructure in the gulf states will be decimated

https://www.france24.com/en/france-confirms-oil-crisis-says-30-40-gulf-energy-infrastructure-destroyed

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I know what I think.

Let the people chart their own future

And getting rid of this asshole president and his movement.

I'm sure it's a good idea...

In your world, Iran is equivalent to Nazi Germany? You do remember who was the aggressor in that WarGame...errr...war, right?

I can't even imagine how you would get there. Maybe you just didn't proofread.

And, while we're here, this is a world-class handwave: "other than their threat to the Global (particularly Asian) Economy."

I mean, the ability to threaten the Global economy amounts to no leverage?

Please tell me what you are smoking so I can be sure to avoid it.

And, gosh. What point exactly does running warships through the strait prove? You believe that all the tankers currently lying by will say, "Well! If U.S. warships can transit the strait, why can't I?"

But all of this is moot, because the US won weeks ago and Iran was then and is now utterly helpless. I know this because I read it right here on DU. (Helpful interpretive hint: Saying that Iran may not be utterly helpless is neither claiming that it is winning nor hating on the US of A and its beloved helmsman.)

Iran said they didn’t.

So, did they or didn’t they?

And define “cross.”

Point being, the info is conflicting.

Ali Hashem
Reporting from Tehran, Iran
https://aje.news/ndjgyz?update=4483938

As a first matter, that's an "all them Ay-rabs is the same" slur, and a terribly petty one at that.

You are suggesting that this person is just a madman mouthpiece for the ayatollahs?

Here's his Al Jazeera brief bio:

ie, Vance said no agreement was reached

based on what?

You are really getting out over your skis on this stuff.

I understand your enthusiasm for this wee excursion. But you really shouldn't declare absolute truths without much, if any, basis in fact.

See my post above.

Do I think the IRG lies, hell yes.

Do I think the Trump admin. lies, hell yes.

Both have thousands of provable lies and I sure as hell won’t believe anything either says without verification.

Didn't you mean CEASES and DESISTS!!1!

I've heard this line somewhere else before. I'm just struggling to remember where.