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DoBW

(3,245 posts)
Wed Apr 8, 2026, 07:38 PM 21 hrs ago

Pope bears brunt of Pentagon insanity

"As tempers rose, one U.S. official reached for a fourteenth-century weapon and invoked the Avignon Papacy, the period when the French Crown used military force to bend the bishop of Rome to its will."

https://www.thelettersfromleo.com/p/the-pentagon-threatened-pope-leo

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Pope bears brunt of Pentagon insanity (Original Post) DoBW 21 hrs ago OP
The 250th birthday of the USA could have been the most glorious celebration in US history. Irish_Dem 21 hrs ago #1
Pentagon Threatened the Pope After He Criticized Trump LetMyPeopleVote 21 hrs ago #2

Irish_Dem

(81,537 posts)
1. The 250th birthday of the USA could have been the most glorious celebration in US history.
Wed Apr 8, 2026, 07:52 PM
21 hrs ago

Celebrating the birth of the most important democracy in the history of the world.
Celebrating our values, honor, respect with all of our friends and allies.

Instead it is turning into a cluster F, excuse my language.
A huge embarrassment and disgrace.

LetMyPeopleVote

(180,236 posts)
2. Pentagon Threatened the Pope After He Criticized Trump
Wed Apr 8, 2026, 08:11 PM
21 hrs ago

It was so bad that Pope Leo changed his plans to travel to the U.S.

This thin-skinned mafia administration is insane.
newrepublic.com/post/208820/...

Mrs. Betty Bowers (@mrsbettybowers.bsky.social) 2026-04-08T22:50:43.514Z

https://newrepublic.com/post/208820/pentagon-threatened-pope-criticized-donald-trump

Relations between the U.S. and the Catholic Church have not been the same since January, when senior U.S. defense officials shared an abrasive message with a Vatican official.

Days after Pope Leo XIV delivered his State of the World speech, Undersecretary of Defense for Policy Elbridge Colby summoned Cardinal Christophe Pierre, the Vatican’s U.S. representative, to a closed-door Pentagon meeting for a bitter lecture.

“The United States,” Colby said, according to a blistering new report by The Free Press, “has the military power to do whatever it wants in the world. The Catholic Church had better take its side.”

One U.S. official present at the meeting brought up the Avignon papacy, a period in the 14th century in which the French monarchy bent the Catholic Church into submission, ordering an attack on Pope Boniface VIII that led to his downfall and subsequent death and forcing the papacy to relocate from Rome to Avignon, a region inside France......

The Vatican was so alarmed by the Pentagon’s warning that Pope Leo cancelled his plans to visit the U.S. later in the year, reported Hale, who noted that “many in the Vatican saw the Pentagon’s reference to an Avignon papacy as a threat to use military force against the Holy See.”

Tensions had not been mended by February, when the Holy See rejected the White House’s invitation to host Pope Leo—the religious order’s first U.S.-born pontiff—for America’s 250th anniversary in July. Instead, the Catholic leader has arranged to visit a very different locale on July 4: Lampedusa, a tiny island between Tunisia and Sicily where North African immigrants wash ashore by the thousands

Hegseth is a religious nut case who believes that G-d is supporting trump's war and military actions. I note that Hegseth excluded Catholics from Good Friday religious events. See https://www.democraticunderground.com/100221145488 If nothing else, Hegseth's actions/statements and the attack on the Pope violate the basic fundamental precepts of the separation of church and state.
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