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senseandsensibility

(25,031 posts)
Mon Apr 6, 2026, 02:53 PM Monday

MSNOW is turning the old "maga voters in the diner" routine on its head, and I loved it!!

Just now after the mind numbingly long one and a half hour nothingburger of a "press conference" ended, MSNOW's reporter went to a veterans' hangout where vets had listened to the whole thing. Alex Talbot interviewed two vets who looked like typical trump voters but neither one of them were buying it.

The first vet gave some advice to the press. He said that they should ask what the purpose of the war is. He said that after that press conference he still doesn't know.

The second vet said that blowing up a country is not a way to win a war. And he looked absolutely surprised that he even needed to state that.

So MSNOW at least has figured out that when your policies are as unpopular as trump's are it is not difficult to go out and find average voters, and even vets, who disagree. What a breath of fresh air. I won't hold my breath for other outlets to try this, but it was refreshing.

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MSNOW is turning the old "maga voters in the diner" routine on its head, and I loved it!! (Original Post) senseandsensibility Monday OP
M$M GenThePerservering Monday #1
That's why I want to commend MSNOW senseandsensibility Monday #6
Yes fmdaddio Monday #25
Love it! However: Chasstev365 Monday #2
No that would be a bridge too far senseandsensibility Monday #3
Nah, we're just not interesting enough. 😉 ShazzieB Monday #13
But there's only Real Americans and Liberal Americans, dontcha know. Beartracks Yesterday #27
Because usually MSNBC would seek out people who are dumb as bricks. GoodRaisin Yesterday #28
Maybe the purpose of the war is for rescue-tainment ratings. Lose a troop or two, rescue them, and the media RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Monday #4
There is no doubt that some are making money off this war senseandsensibility Monday #5
Sheesh! I think you just identified a new word/concept. calimary Monday #11
This message was self-deleted by its author LuvLoogie Monday #15
L7 in the early 90s LuvLoogie Monday #17
Dang, L7 beat me to it! RedWhiteBlueIsRacist Monday #22
This word stage left Monday #14
L7 did LuvLoogie Monday #16
lol stage left Monday #23
Where were the vets from? Nt Fiendish Thingy Monday #7
They said in trump's backyard senseandsensibility Monday #8
Can they ever do man on the streets outside of a Whole Foods in NC, WI or AZ? NCDem47 Monday #9
According msm, yes. They are the only real 'murikans, doncha know. mwmisses4289 Monday #10
You forgot: we're all on the dole, according to Ilsa Monday #21
Dem-voting counties generate 70% of the US economy. blm Monday #26
For the record I watch MSNOW from 4pm onward almost every day. They ask EVERYBODY Cheezoholic Monday #12
This is true and I've noticed a positive change on MSNow now that they Greywing Monday #18
... BlueWaveNeverEnd Monday #19
"He said that after that press conference he still doesn't know." paleotn Monday #20
Good to know, sense... I stopped Cha Monday #24
Better, ask them... Grins 22 hrs ago #29

Chasstev365

(7,847 posts)
2. Love it! However:
Mon Apr 6, 2026, 02:57 PM
Monday

It always irritates the hell out of me that corporate media never goes to a Blue area coffee shop to hear how democratic liberals feel about an issue. NEVER!

ShazzieB

(22,645 posts)
13. Nah, we're just not interesting enough. 😉
Mon Apr 6, 2026, 04:10 PM
Monday

We're too rational and too motivated by real concern for others to make for good TV. Network news execs would rather send reporters to talk to MAGA types, because they are much more colorful and entertaining. They're afraid we'd just put everybody to sleep talking about real issues and real solutions.

I wish I was kidding about this 100%, but a part of me suspects this is true.

Beartracks

(14,620 posts)
27. But there's only Real Americans and Liberal Americans, dontcha know.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 12:13 AM
Yesterday

Out in the world, it sure looks like the two distinctions are Real Americans and Republicans -- but whatever, MSM.

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GoodRaisin

(10,945 posts)
28. Because usually MSNBC would seek out people who are dumb as bricks.
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 02:38 AM
Yesterday

That wasn’t the case today though. I caught that segment.

And I do think MSNOW is trying to be better than MSNBC was.

RedWhiteBlueIsRacist

(2,071 posts)
4. Maybe the purpose of the war is for rescue-tainment ratings. Lose a troop or two, rescue them, and the media
Mon Apr 6, 2026, 03:01 PM
Monday

and warmongers have a wargasm from the rescue/s.

senseandsensibility

(25,031 posts)
5. There is no doubt that some are making money off this war
Mon Apr 6, 2026, 03:12 PM
Monday

and tat should not be happening. Of course IMO the war should not be happening period. We are already less safe than we were six weeks ago.

Response to calimary (Reply #11)

stage left

(3,319 posts)
14. This word
Mon Apr 6, 2026, 04:27 PM
Monday

you just coined, "wargasm", really needs to be in the dictionary of American English with an example thus, "Lindsey Graham gets a wargasm just thinking about bombing human beings, especially young girls."

NCDem47

(3,474 posts)
9. Can they ever do man on the streets outside of a Whole Foods in NC, WI or AZ?
Mon Apr 6, 2026, 03:45 PM
Monday

Why always diners with rural folk in trucker hats? Is that now only the "real" America worth listening to?

mwmisses4289

(4,254 posts)
10. According msm, yes. They are the only real 'murikans, doncha know.
Mon Apr 6, 2026, 03:52 PM
Monday

The 70%+ rest of us who live in urban/suburban areas are just here, are lazy, stupid and don't know what real work is.

Ilsa

(64,398 posts)
21. You forgot: we're all on the dole, according to
Mon Apr 6, 2026, 05:47 PM
Monday

republicans. So we don't "deserve" to have an opinion.

Cheezoholic

(3,748 posts)
12. For the record I watch MSNOW from 4pm onward almost every day. They ask EVERYBODY
Mon Apr 6, 2026, 03:58 PM
Monday

Yes everyone's busy but if you watch that channel starting with Deadline Whitehouse, I have seen them ask everybody everywhere at some point. Judging them by just asking people in "diners" in "rural" America is completely unfair. If you watch it before 4pm well Dawg knows what you'll get but most of that is M$M trash. They hit harder than any other "M$M" cable news/opinion network than any other from 4pm on. It just irks the hell out of me when people watch Morning Blow or Katy Turd and slam the channel and say I'm not watching. BE HAPPY we at least have these late afternoon thru evening shows left, they are all that's LEFT on any kind of M$M. FatFuck and his minions are trying to shut them down as we speak. They are the last line in this war in their arena period and their heels are dug in.

Greywing

(1,192 posts)
18. This is true and I've noticed a positive change on MSNow now that they
Mon Apr 6, 2026, 04:41 PM
Monday

are no longer a part of NBC.

paleotn

(22,277 posts)
20. "He said that after that press conference he still doesn't know."
Mon Apr 6, 2026, 05:06 PM
Monday

No matter how much lipstick Shitler slathers on this, THAT is still the question that won't go away. Mainly because it doesn't have a answer that doesn't make Shitler look like an idiot and Bibi's lap dog.

Cha

(319,244 posts)
24. Good to know, sense... I stopped
Mon Apr 6, 2026, 08:41 PM
Monday

watching tv & m$m in November 2002.. and never looked back.

I bet the Psycho War Criminal Hated that.

TY

Grins

(9,465 posts)
29. Better, ask them...
Tue Apr 7, 2026, 01:11 PM
22 hrs ago
"...blowing up a country is not a way to win a war," said one of the vets."
The follow-up question should then have been: "What is winning? And what do you 'win' in this war?"

It's General Carl von Clausewitz's* most important question, one that demands a clear and irrefutable answer to before you go to war.

* Carl von Clausewitz's most notable work, Vom Kriege (On War) is considered a seminal treatise on military strategy and science. His "Principles of War" is taught in all military schools, right up there with Sun Tsu.
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