strongly encourage Mr. Bone Spurs to keep belittling Mr. Bone Saw. Trump is a tough guy - what could possible go wrong?

Did I accidentally click on Orrex's daily thread?

or he might come out neatly packed into several duffle baga

SA will not be welcoming him.

I think the grifter got a little too sure of himself.

When criminal malfeasance is obscenely rewarded instead of rightfully punished as it should be...

Here's the link to my post: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100221131990

If you'll note in my OP, I observe how he realizes he went too far and then tries to back peddle, saying MBS is a "regular guy."

What a dufus. Even his backpeddling is incompetent. I doubt MBS wants to be thought of as a "regular guy."

This will be yet another example.

I hope Kushner’s making a good return on the $2B he owes the sovereign fund of Saudi Arabia.. And on the additional $1B he owes to the sovereign funds of other Gulf States.

purchased did not perform as promised.

I thought the House Of Saud actively wanted "regime change" in Iran. Given the different sects of Islam they represent, the countries are natural belligerents.

What will truly be interesting is how the house of Saud lines up with Israel after all the dust settles from this little soiree. There was a subtle partnership between the two before this all started.

As I've said before, war is horribly expensive and utterly unpredictable. One should really think many times before one enters into it; no one goes into war thinking they'll lose or there will be unwelcome consequences Sometimes it's cheaper and wise to put up with disagreeable neighbors then trying to oust them.

I think it's protection money and I've said so before on these threads.

We'll find out if the Saudis decide to call in a loan.

Well, the Saudís have seen what Trump’s ‘protection’ is worth. We’ve failed our Gulf allies terribly.

Bonesaw says Jared is in his pocket and, going by the intel he got, $2 billion was a bargain.

He's better off at this point, playing up to MBS than to his own father-in-law. However there's no word yet on whether this is a break within the family. If could be that MBS is done with all Americans including Jared. Let's see what happens in the next few days.

I've always wondered how Jared was able to get so close to MBS, when he's known to be Jewish and a close friend to Netanyahu.

For which Jared might have been compensated:

It's nothing a couple trillion dollars won't fix.

And implications about cleanliness and "asses". Trump may find his ass in a sling soon - separated from the rest of his corpulent self.

We won't have a single friend on earth.

Thank the fucking republicons.

the stuff used to protect a basketball court floor.

I would never have been able to sit through it long enough to find that myself. Just watching him strut and preen to the first few lines of that awful song was more than enough.

My God he is a stupid asshole.

bulls in a china shop.

I almost posted that! There's so many important angles in this story, or to this event that we should be aware of. An intelligent person in another country can see things that we're missing... that aren't being openly discussed in our media (controlled by 4 or 5 billionaires courting dear leader for more tax breaks, I guess?).

Anyway, thank you! I'm glad you posted that!

over the Ukraine/Saudi defense deal:

'Putin is scared to death right now' Bill Browder and Rubio disses MBS over Saudi/Ukraine Defense Deal?

https://www.democraticunderground.com/113356098

MBS will make him pay with the video evidence that they accumulated for years at the various Epstein locations

would be the ideal outcome!

I doubt they are thrilled, but they are very patient and practical. Iran also announced to expect incoming on some of their bridges shortly, so I'd imagine they would at least wait to see how the dust settles. If they were going to viscerally dump Trump in outrage over an insult, I'd imagine it would have happened 6 or 7 days ago. I doubt they will forget it, though.

he writes, he often exaggerates and sometimes writes outright untruths and other times he gets it right. I say be cautious.

makes sense and ring true in here to me.

It is just a warning to confirm information from him.

steeped in the region and your caution is sound.

He said the deal with Ukrainians started weeks ago pre humiliation and that they are unrelated. As for the humiliation? They can absorb it based on history.

events mixed up.

And it looks like Bonesaw sold his copy.

For sure, previous owners include Putin and Musk: whoever seems to dangle him like a marionette.

One of these days, someone is going to cash it in big time, or "lose" it, and his party is over.

Donald should hope and pray that Prince Bonesaw doesn't "go to Jared".

Pray? HA HA HA HA He prays only TO HIMSELF.

out in the days that followed confirming it all. So it is more than, how did you say? "just a Ukrainian in Canada"

Slava Ukraini!! Heroyam Slava!! Slava NaViki!!

Yes, he's a Ukrainian in Canada. He doesn't work in journalism, or diplomacy, government or anything, so it seems strange that a Ukrainian in Canada has the scoop on what Rubio said to Saudi Arabia, that no one else has confirmed. Repetition is not confirmation.

The same about you and your posts and included you being a Brit it would be OK? You're wrong.

I can't tell DU what is going on in the internal communications between the US and Saudi governments. I'm just a private Brit. I can link to actual sources, but the guy on Twitter didn't - he just asserted what Rubio said. He is just a private Ukrainian-Canadian. If he was American, then at least there'd be a chance he'd actually be a State Dept employee, but we'd really need some evidence for that too.

because he's a "Ukrainian from Canada." The fact that he's Ukrainian and/'or from Canada has nothing to do with what he's saying. You imply that Ukrainians and/or Canadians are not entitled to an opinion or commenting on current events.

It would be like me pointing out your post/posts which include info from RT (Russia Today) the Kremlin propaganda rag or from The Daily Mail, a right-wing sensationalist rag and saying the same thing about you being British. You being British has nothing to do your right to post. No one has the right to say or imply you are entitled to less of an opinion or a right to post because of your ethnicity or citizenship, even if I or others might deem those posts misguided.

so yes, the fact that he's a private Ukrainian-Canadian is relevant. This is not about his opinion or a "right to post"; it's about a claim he makes about what Rubio said, and for which there is no other evidence.

would not understand.

I'm talking about the tweet. What are you talking about?

Everything Trump touches, dies. And you deserve it, thought you could dance with the devil and not get burned.

I feel like I'm losing my mind

that this Republican CABAL is TRYING to provoke a 9/11 just like they did before.......

With what was said in Cheney's/Republican's Manifesto in the late 90's.....Project New American Century, and Louis Freh? ignoring all the flagrant warnings by his FBI, it is no doubt that Cheney/Rumsfeld opened to door and turned their heads to the probably hit on 9/11......
That single event, rallied the U.S. and the world around the WBush clowns like nothing ever before, except Pearl Harbor, which they specifically mentioned in PNAC........Why not try it again?????? Worked like a charm the first time around !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I doubt we know much about anything/everything that is going on...........back in the 90's I mentioned to one of my boys, that I truly believed that we only know a thousandth of what is going on behind the scenes...........LOL He snapped back: AND maybe we don't want to know..............

and it did work VERY well for them. Found the quote. It's been a while since I read it. It always shocks me.
"Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor."

The head of the FBI....Louis Freih? was throwing away information being sent to him from his Phoenix office about all the mid easterners in Pilot schools that were reported by the owners of the school for only being interested in learning about flying the plane, when in reality 80+% of flying an airliners is the take offs and landing. The woman? in charge? down in the Phoenix? branch of the FBI sent him REPEATED urgent messages........TOTALLY IGNORED BY HIM...........

He's just a Mob Boss of an Organized Criminal Syndicate (R)'s,
that got his jaw clocked by another Mob Boss of an Organized Criminal Syndicate
that actually has more leverage in the ME than Mierda47.

Why does anyone think Piggy JUST LOST SAUDI ARABIA?

Piggy handed Jamal Khashoggi to King Bonesaw for torture and assassination, they're molded from the same rancid shit.

America doesn't even know exist. Drone warfare has changed everything and Ukraine is ahead of everyone else.
The gulf states are treating Zelenskyy with respect and dignity. And he knows how to behave with foreign leaders.
He didn't just lose Saudi Arabia. He lost the entire gulf.

I admire him immensely, and it pi$$ed me off to no end when drumpf was so derisive and dismissive of him and of Ukraine. He was always the better man. I wish Joe had been able to help him & Ukraine more.

Did you see this one? The US Could Have Have Had Ukranian Drone Tech Seven Months Ago - For Free. Trump Chose To Mock Zelensky For Putin instead. (also from Dean Blundell)

I follow several Substack writers who cover Ukraine and read about that several places. Also Meidas Touch covered Trump turning down Zelenskyy's offer.
Do you know Viktor Kravchuk? He is a Ukrainian who writes beautiful and profound posts.Totally different from Blundell.


https://freedomline.substack.com/
He Wore a Crown and Called it a Joke
https://freedomline.substack.com/p/he-wore-a-crown-and-called-it-a-joke

https://freedomline.substack.com/p/minneapolis-is-not-far-from-ukraine
Minneapolis Is Not Far From Kyiv
From those invaded by Russia to those invaded by ICE

https://viktorkravchuk.substack.com/
War, Love and Survival in Ukraine

See if he disappears.

He is not now, and will never, suffer for his demented douchebaggery. Only his death will end this nightmare.

There is probably a line of people who would want to get to him. Of course, we could provide him with a safe place like a supermax prison.

Bone spurs are no match for bone saws.

Is this true? Why would absolutely nobody be carrying it.

That he said the Saudis were kissing his ass is true, and that does seem to be a good way to alienate a royal family with a high self-regard. But there's no actual "the Saudis have hit back" events talked about; it's all just speculation on how they feel.

He is already costing his wealthy ranching/farming, hospitality, and construction donors way more money than they expected. Now, not only has he pissed off our allies, he has really pissed off his wealthy big oil and mic ddonors.
Wonder how long he'll last, and what they will do to get him out and put Vance in.

n/t

This whole mess is on the entire republican party, under the republican banner, including the supreme corrupt court. This entire party is NOT "American".

I wonder if his insults will hurt Kushner sucking money out of the Middle East Royal suckers and despots? Let's hope so.

It is plane (pun intended) for all to see that the WWi/WWII style of weapons we still favor are losing their effectiveness. Modern warfare is going to be dominated by drones that cost a tiny fraction of the cost of systems that Saud has been buying from us.

And who are the leaders in these new technologies? Iran (oops), Turkey (OK), and Ukraine. In particular, Ukraine has vastly more real world experience that anybody else in using these technologies on the battlefield. If you haven't been following closely, Ukraine has made all kinds of daring, seemingly impossible strikes at important Russian assets. Like the US, the Russian weapons and defense are all about WWII and cold war machinery. Russia has development highly sophisticated tracking systems that can see any conventional plane anywhere in the theater.

BUT, these systems can't deal with drones that are smaller and can travel in valleys or just 5 feet over the terrain. MBS can see what these drones have done to the US in this war. Americans are not getting the real story. There have been many hard hots on American bases all over the region. There are reports that some reports of American soldiers vacating the basis to hid out in civilian areas because we can't adequately defend our bases. Saud is doing what they have to do. They can't buy these systems from Iran, so they are turning to Ukraine.

Maybe they will correct him.

I guess MBS is going to CUT him out of the money stream. Donny should watch how big the SUITCASE is the Saudis carry in the next time he is speaking to them

Remember, he thinks he's hilarious so he's always joking/not joking.

Does he offend MBS with this shit? Maybe, but he'll put up with it because Trump doesn't give a fuck about anything but money. Certainly not murders.