They are a murderous regime hell-bent on destroying Western civilization and thought, killing everyone possible. That is their sworn mission in life.

This ain’t Ukraine.

Who have they imprisoned in a veritable Warsaw ghetto in Gaza?
How much money do they send to bribe congress?

I'll wait for the answers.

The size of Vermont…

All those Arab billions and they wouldn’t invest in their “brethren” in Gaza. They had kicked what are now called the Palestinians out of their countries including but not limited to Jordan and sent them to disrupt Israel.

Yes, Jews lobby Congress, and for decades Congress never investigated the goings-on in the Catholic Church, and Roosevelt did not permit ships with Jewish refugees to dock in America, and your present President wants Muslims at the very least tossed out of the country and on and on. So the Jews decided to do what the cigarette companies, the auto industry, the steel industry, the insurance industry, and every other business interest does and contribute money to members of Congress. You don’t like it, lobby your Congressman or better yet, contribute money and bribe him or her into voting the way you like.

Oh yeah. Ooops.

the enemy of my enemy is my friend. They're not our friends by any means and comparing a terrorist supporting state to Ukraine is more than a little insulting and obscene. Particularly since they've supplied some of the munitions that have killed Ukrainians.

Then again, I'm not so calcified in ideology that I can't see some benefit from all this. This will damage the Trump regime. It's a hell of a gamble with crappy odds. Let's just hope that damage can be contained to our regime alone.

you aren't being serious. The Iranians have been being held hostage for decades by their government, and collective intelligence claims they were preparing an offensive (again). We still don't know exactly how many thousands of their own citizen they murdered in the past month. the people running that government are (were) downright evil and tyrannical.
We can agree on our general feelings regarding Trump, but opposing every single action just because, is not a logical nor reasonable way to go about things. This call has been out for at least a decade now, including from many on our side of the isle. Hopefully Trump doesn't screw this up, but it's been a long time coming.

If Iran did have the unredacted files and posted them, would TSF nuke them in retaliation?

Despite all their years of hard work staying on Irans good side, they got hit by Iran anyway when things got real. Iran didn’t care. Don’t see the whole ME rushing in to back Iran either. Putin does though.

Have been off and on since the 7th century.

Funny how so many Americans think history started in 1776 and all cultures must conform to American ways of thinking. It didn't and they don't.

I was surprised so many are willing to attack Iran. I’d been under the misguided impression that an attack on Iran would bring the entirety of the ME down on anyone who dared. Turns out just Iran and some assorted terrorists jumping up. I was very ignorant.

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Iran is majority Shia. Saudi and the southern Gulf states are majority Sunni. Kind of like Catholics and Protestants only they're still shooting at each other. Culturally, Iran is majority Persian. Saudi and the southern Gulf states are Arabs. Their languages are very different. Most Iranians speak Farsi, a Persian language. Persian is Indo-European, and in some ways similar to western languages. Arabic is a Semitic language. A whole different linguistic family that ironically includes Hebrew. They have different cultures stretching back a couple millennia. Then there's the question of who owns the Persian Gulf. Arabian Gulf if you're in Saudi. The religious, cultural and political rivalry between Arabs and Persians (Iranians) stretches back to at least the Muslim conquest of Persia in the 7th century. Perhaps even further back. A long history of bad blood.

But the can’t do anything domestically. So drumpf really doesn’t care.

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Don’t count on that. I can think of a bunch of ways Iran could hit back at America itself and its
people both here and abroad. Iran has been funding, training, and supporting terrorist organizations
for years now.

It's my worry with this whole thing.

Good grief. Some people just don't see the writing on the wall when it's right in front of them.

Haven't we lived through this scenario before? Do we not remember the public beheadings that ISIS carried out? Do any of us really relish living through that kind of thing again?

Of course, they're going to retaliate and they will do it by whatever means are available to them. Why wouldn't they? So the question that *I* have for those who are saying "but they can't do anything domestically" is whether or not you really feel safe with the likes of Trump, Patel and Noem in charge of our "domestic" safety? I know that I don't feel any degree of comfort.

I sure wish we weren't having to have this discussion. But it's a certainty unfortunately.

…. Iranians who now want to die for their murdered daughter, granddaughter, sister, neighbor, and so on.

You're absolutely right.

Trump and Bibi have lit the fuse for Iranian Martyrs to extract their revenge on their citizens.

We have a bunch of fucking clowns in charge. Trump, et al have no idea what they have started, much less be able to concentrate on keeping ordinary citizens within American borders safe.

On top of that, they don't CARE. Hell, if a suicide bomber took out a few Republicans but took out MORE Democrats, half of MAGA would think that was a good thing.

An American trait I'm not particularly fond of.

I'm not particularly fond of it either myself.

For the cost of one AR and a case of ammo ($1000-$1500).

It's really not hard to see a scenario where dozens of Iranian agents or sympathizers carry out coordinated mass shootings across the US thanks to our lax gun laws.

We're deep into the age of unconventional, asymmetrical warfare now.

More like whistling past the graveyard. They can touch us. That's not the goddamn question. The question is will they escalate that far?

Every night.

I know Bibi don't care since his RW group have killed and maim thousands of children in Gaza.

But, come on US - WTF.

Killed off millions here with COVID and other things

There's no better way to rally a populace to a common cause than having some foreign powers that few particularly like indiscriminately bombing the shit out of them. Their local differences get set aside for the duration. It's 1968 "hearts and minds" bullshit all over again. Why the hell can't Americans learn from the past!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and outdo Obama.

Aint it nice to have a toddler in a sandbox in charge.

The people in position to restrain this monster need to stop enabling him. Take the keys to the bomb locker away already!!!

Right on.

And that all it would take to blow it up was a lit match?

Q. President Aristus do you think the United States should be involved in the running of the Iranian government?

A. No.

This had stay the hell out of it written all over it.

I’m a pretty smart guy, extremely well-read on American and world history, well-versed in the U.S. Constitution, early-rising, hard-working, well-dressed, and I still don’t consider myself in any way qualified for the job.

If only the repukes had such high standards…

Nobel Prize Winner, Francis Arnold, to vet any possible future member of Biden’s team on
science. As a result we 200 + million doses of vaccines for C-19 in 3 months and some great
policies and people too. Look @ the difference between Mayor Pete B. and RFK Jr.

It never will be.
Makes it easier when there's no empathy for the lives lost in achieving his half witted goals.

Because, first of all, he doesn't give a flying fuck about his family. He only cares about himself.

Secondly, his mental deficiencies, coupleted with his advancing senility, leave zero space his his demented brain for empathy.

Finally, everything he touches DIES. Businesses, people, the United States. It's all a pattern that's been repeated time and time again.

He literally doesn't have the brain structure for empathy. He doesn't really have empathy for his grown own children, just a sense of tribalism.
He actually enjoys the suffering of others. It's in his psychopathy. He is incapable of reflecting or restraining himself.
How bad will it have to get before someone can stop him?

Bibi after all killed all those Palestinian children. Not much of a stretch to think he targeted that school.

Isn't the bank robber getaway driver guilty like the shooter who pulled the trigger ?

One story that got buried (besides the EPSTEIN FILES) is how Anthropic got ditched for not giving carte blanche for use of their product to mass surveil Americans OR to autonomously launch attacks. Sam Altman (Open AI) stepped up and said, hey, we'll let you do that!! (Think about that next time using ChatGPT.)

I didn't see anything specific, but I did not research it either. Frankly would not surprise me if they both agreed on it.
That would explain the latest round of "investment" in Open AI. That is scary.

But I don't believe even TSF or Bibi target schools directly ... except for Bibi in the case of Gaza, he is indifferent to something being a school or a hospital if so-called intelligence says that Hamas is hiding there. (tit-for-tat war crimes, and of course it is innocents who suffer, while the perps on both sides go free). I doubt that in this stage of the attack, there was any military reason to actually target this school.

So I easily accept that it was a miss of the intended target, much more readily than I think that a school was deliberately targeted.

Yes it could have been a miss, but they targeted an area with a school and didn't care about the risk. Psychopaths are often motivated by sadism. Do you think Putin needed to bomb hospitals? He chose targets that would demoralize people.

overseeing it, we STILL manage to miss the actual target and bomb a school - and TSF's admin wants to give AI this power. In other words, things could get far far worse than we are seeing now. (not diminishing the horrific evil of what we are seeing now ... just that it, sadly, is NOT the bottom.)

Middle East welcome this war. We know Israel does. What worries me is the unpredictability of the outcome. It will destabilize and cause chaos throughout the region, and the winners and losers can't be predicted at this point. People won't be winners, but certain regimes will. When the dust settles, who knows what we're going to see in terms of a new balance.

said Iran's enemies in the Middle East have been bribing Trump and his children for years. Qatar, UAE, Saudi Arabia.
Foolish that they think this will work out better for them. But then, they had no interest in Iran becoming a democracy either.

About the nicest thing I can say: Dimdonnie is a demented and perverted traitor.

He doesn't give a shit what the outcome is, doesn't give a shit if sleeper cells in the US kill Americans, doesn't care if Iran surrenders and elects a new government, Krasnov doesn't care about any of that.

The reason; it's another step to Krasnov's move to making America a dictatorship, another progression in the process. Krasnov can go to war with whoever he wants and whenever he wants, he doesn't even have to give a heads up to our allies.

Quit trying to rationalize war, go read Major General Smedley Butler's book, War Is A Racket.

All the damage has been from ballistic missiles & drones, not the Iranian air force, what would they have used, their F-4 Phantoms or the F-14 Tomcats? All 50+ years old and more dangerous to the pilots.

They have (or did) around 20 old Mig-29B's but the IDF/USAF would swat those out of the sky way before they left Iran.
With all the IDF/USAF fighter/bombers over Iran you can bet their are several AWAC's near and a fighter cover over Iran.