take advantage of to enrich himself.This network of pedophiles will be uncovered piece by piece. Who are our present day Woodward and Bernstein? Who is our Deep Throat?

(though Deep Throat did say their lives were at risk) nor was Nixon about to topple democracy(for any election other than his own).
But the evidence here is so much more sordid and abundant.

Imagine Trump tying to plug all the leaks for the rest of his life. Doesn't seem like he'll succeed.

Believe their connection may have begun as an "investment" connection, but evolved into the model industry and finding young women to be beauty contestants and models. From there, it further evolved to cover both bases -- sexually servicing wealthy financiers. The majority of names in the "files" likely relates to people who were using Epstein's financial ties.

Others, yet defined as perps, got entangled in the illegal, brutal, perversive activities.

They were friends and fellow perverts.
They had a falling out because Trump is the worst of the worst according to Epstein and he certainly knew them all. Trump wanted access to the clients Epstein had and his influence and leverage over them. He already knew many and they helped him become POTUS. Both Epstein and Trump are connected to Putin.
Epstein became a liability to Trump. Epstein was killed.
Trump's FBI raided Epstein's properties and seized troves of files, photographs and recordings.
Trump failed securing a second term because of the mail-in votes which could not be altered.
Trump staged an insurrection, but his VP refused to co-operate. He was supposed to be a stooge.
Trump used all his compromised connections and was reinstalled to the White House in a myriad of ways including using Trumpstein client Musk.
Trump and his family are gathering billions by leveraging all the material they have accessed from Epstein's troves and rewarding fellow perverts with enormous contracts and access to U.S. data and classified intel.
Trump (and family) thinks he has become too powerful to fail. The powerful and compromised men in the world have been propping Trump up to protect themselves and their criminal enterprises--even while Trump is physically and mentally deteriorating.
This is becoming the biggest scandal we have ever seen. Even our media is owned by members of the Trumpstein network.

occured to me that if there ever was a fallout between the two miscreants,it conceivably could be Epstein cutting ties because HIS stable was being raided.

If one of them (trump/epstein) was the boss, so to speak. I can't imagine either one of them submitting to the authority of the other.

"How did Trump put it last year when explaining why he dropped Epstein as a friend, that Epstein "stole" young women. Strange that he would use language implying some sort of ownership, don't you think."

The "ownership" implication comes from the fact that Virginia Guiffre was recruited from Mar-A-Lago by Maxwell, wherein she quit working at MAL to go work for Epstein. By "stolen from him" it's logical to conclude he was referring to "employee pilfering" in the context it was said

But more importantly, that Trump statement was bullshit revisionist history. The falling out was over a S.FL 2004 real estate deal, where Trump snaked a property from Epstein at auction. It was an estate that Epstein had found, was interested in buying, then took Trump to give his professional opinion on. Trump's recent quote was him trying to make it sound like he cut things off with Epstein over his abuse of minors, but that's bullshit. He did not. And Epstein stayed a member at MAL until like 2009-2010, whereas the pilfering of Guiffre was like 2001.

Also, that real estate deal? In 2018 Epstein told Wolff that he thought Trump got the money for that deal from Russians, because he was broke AF at the time it happened. It's the property that Trump sold to the Russian oligarch in 2009 at the bottom of the housing market, for *at least double* the market value (which has been widely reported). Epstein thought the initial $40M (in 2004) Trump used to outbid him also came from that same oligarch. Illegally. The whole thing was "money laundering".

This part I also agree with "I think he was an active participant in international sex trafficking, in one capacity or another" but I also think too much of the focus has been on the idea that Epstein was trafficking minors at scale and/or for profit purposes. Sad reality is that trafficking gorgeous international models from 18-25yo is something that can be done with FAR greater impunity, to a FAR larger client base, than would ever be the case with minors. Non-minors can also be trafficked to mainstream pornographers, and we all know how much $$$ there is in that

I think the idea that Epstein was grooming the 30-or-so known-minor victims for eventual, for-profit work e.g. the moment they turned 18 is one that has been way underexplored, in favor of the more titillating (but actually much less practical) "trafficking minors to his rich buddies" interpretation. NOT that Epstein was not also a total perverted sicko who got off on controlling and abusing minor girls, I'm not saying that's not ALSO true. But to the extent there was a BUSINESS? It was very likely *not* minors, and the evidence that it was is far thinner than the public's perception of "what's actually there".

Although it's perhaps a less satisfying accusation, Epstein's trafficking of non-minors is the part of the story Trump should be really, really be considered likely to have been a part of, IMHO.

It's the only reason he would be concerned about this case.
Unless it's even worse (like it was a kind of intelligence operation by somebody bad).

It was an intiation into a private world of wealth and corruption. They knew who they could safely and reliably illicitly conspire with on business, politics or governments through the threat of mutual self destruction. And they recruited new members based on what benefit they could gain having that kind of leverage over them. And of course being the sick perverts they were, it was something they could enjoy together.

The most damning evidence was likely shredded long ago.

you have to listen to. Very dark in content. DJT is the Head of the snake of all this. He needs to be removed ASAP. He gets off on torturing human beings and a lot more. Some people that were mentioned at these "parties" are Jim Jordan, Clarence Thomas, Lindsay Graham. and PUTIN (correction Putin mentioned, but did not attend parties) and of course, DJT.

It is rather long in content but must be listened and shared.

K&R

I don't see how he could resist being part of that big beautiful criminal enterprise Epstein was building.
Money, power, control, and lots of young girls...just the kind of things Trump would go out of his way to help run.
Trump would get plenty of opportunity to hobnob with the rich and powerful, while enjoying access to vulnerable girls in an environment where he wouldn't have any accountability.

when he was U.S. Attorney for Southern New York, creating a vaccuum which was quickly filled by the Russian mafia. I don’t recall Attorney (or Mayor) Giuliani doing anything about that.

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There's some anonymous claims to the tip lines, nothing like E Jean Carroll, or anyone going to the real press. It's hard for me to buy that someone wouldn't have come forward with a case that would survive scrutiny. And before you say they are afraid he'd have them killed, E Jean Carroll is in good health after getting him adjudicated guilty of sexual abuse.

Likewise if anything was in what of the Epstein files that have been released to Congress that implicated Trump, there would have been a race to the nearest media outlet. Maybe you can say that something was withheld from what was released to Congress, but that's supposition.

???????????

Not really, not ever

It was the same interview that he bragged about barging into the girls' dressing rooms without knocking.

"I have the right, you know, as the owner, to inspect the merchandise."

...through which Epstein was funneling his money, looked very similar to the shady European / Russian ones Trump was known to use.

The bank favored by Putin and the Russian mob to launder money.

Trump's little grubby hands are all over it. And he doesn't give a damn about anyone else.

Media has me screaming at the TV! They only cover what’s in today’s news.

I’m yelling for them to go back further!!! Go back to Casablancas!! To where it really started. Go back 40-years!

And “friendly “ competitor may be the correct phrasing. JE HATED it when Trump got something he wanted; in one case (in a court deposition) - the virginity of A TWELVE YEAR OLD girl! And Epstein took that slight out on the girl..

Thanks for posting.

him getting his cut... and it's no little slice either. Every deal he makes these days involves large chunks of cash or bitcoin being deposited in a t-Rump acct. Some aren't even in the States... He doesn't even hide it... though I believe there's still much we don't know.

Yes, they were in cahoots, partners or whatever... Until they weren't. One ego didn't get his way and they became fierce competitors/foes/enemies in all sorts of criminal schemes.

smdh

They’re all sex traffickers

And I think there were a few others. It was a consortium of the Rich. Doing those things made them feel like people had no control over them because they could do whatever they wanted. They weren't mere mortals.

But when they met and understood their interests were similar, Trump probably volunteered to help him secure young girls. He likely bragged about owning the Ms Teen Pageant. I think there are documents already public that have pointed that out?

Then, they were swapping girls, in my opinion. They obviously had built up a reputation within a certain class of very wealthy billionaires and rich people. It is impossible to grasp the magnitude of this scandal. We usually leave the sex scandals to the Brits. They are much better at it.

Then they got their hands on the government. They got their greedy hands everywhere. The corruptness was only limited by their imaginations. Total disregard for the laws of this country.

Winner gets to order the murder of the erstwhile rival.

Probably more…