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Why the SSA cap MUST be removed. SCRAP THE CAP! (Original Post) 634-5789 6 hrs ago OP
That makes the most sense DeeDeeNY 5 hrs ago #1
A larger and larger percentage of total income is markodochartaigh 5 hrs ago #2
I wonder how many of these people COL Mustard 5 hrs ago #4
Capital gains aren't subject to SS taxes. Only their earned income, if any. paleotn 2 hrs ago #16
Reinstate the wealth tax! SheltieLover 5 hrs ago #3
Or at least try Al Franken's donut idea MerrilyMerrily 4 hrs ago #5
Seems like a good plan Callie1979 4 hrs ago #6
$400k ...Biden proposal JT45242 3 hrs ago #7
Always liked Al Franken's donut idea KS Toronado 3 hrs ago #9
Compared to income taxes, SS rates aren't very high... paleotn 2 hrs ago #18
Why should any income be exempted? MichMan 1 hr ago #20
I am in favor of taxing the rich but I oppose using SS as a tax. Fix the tax system. twodogsbarking 3 hrs ago #8
yeah. i dont want to see the program mopinko 3 hrs ago #11
+1 Shrek 3 hrs ago #13
the oligarchs will step up their attacks. mopinko 2 hrs ago #15
It is a tax no matter how you want to slice it and that's fine. paleotn 2 hrs ago #19
But they still receive a monthly benefit? Katinfl 3 hrs ago #10
Yeah. Please think of those poor, poor billionaires! Wednesdays 1 hr ago #21
That certainly brings it home! lastlib 3 hrs ago #12
Keep the employer cap jonstl08 2 hrs ago #14
but then the rich would have slightly less money and is so, how can they create jobs for everyone? Takket 2 hrs ago #17

DeeDeeNY

(3,900 posts)
1. That makes the most sense
Fri Jan 2, 2026, 05:55 AM
5 hrs ago

Scrapping the cap is the easiest and fairest way to keep Social Security solvent and fully funded going forward.

markodochartaigh

(4,968 posts)
2. A larger and larger percentage of total income is
Fri Jan 2, 2026, 06:24 AM
5 hrs ago

going into the pockets of fewer and fewer people. If those people are paying into Social Security on only a tiny portion of their income, it should be obvious that Social Security is going to become weaker and weaker.

COL Mustard

(7,958 posts)
4. I wonder how many of these people
Fri Jan 2, 2026, 06:34 AM
5 hrs ago

Actually pay into Social Security. I know you pay on earned income, but is their income earned or is it something like dividends? I don’t know, but it would be interesting to find out.

I usually hit the cap in late October, and I agree…it should be lifted. There’s no Medicare cap, why isn’t it the same for SSA?

MerrilyMerrily

(226 posts)
5. Or at least try Al Franken's donut idea
Fri Jan 2, 2026, 06:55 AM
4 hrs ago

Leave the cap where it is for people earning just over the limit, leave a hole for breathing room, and require people making OVER a certain LARGE amount (say, a million? Two?) to pay in to SS again - on the amount earned above that.

JT45242

(3,818 posts)
7. $400k ...Biden proposal
Fri Jan 2, 2026, 08:21 AM
3 hrs ago

You could make an argument that in some excessively high cost of living areas (silicon valley, Seattle, NYC) that $400k is still somewhere in the middle class.

Let the cap rise to close the donut.

Would still protect social security and have the rich pay a fair, if not complete, share of their earnings.

paleotn

(21,486 posts)
18. Compared to income taxes, SS rates aren't very high...
Fri Jan 2, 2026, 09:13 AM
2 hrs ago

6.2% and applicable to employee and employer alike on the same dollar of earned income. Make it simple. Apply it to all earned income, no limit, no donat holes. If that exceed revenue targets, lower the rate a bit, but don't over complicate. That's where the US system gets into trouble. A lot of mischief occurs in the rules and exceptions. Just don't go there.

And if you really want to fund Social Security properly, apply the SS to capital gains, particularly carried interest. The most pernicious tax dodge of all.

mopinko

(73,282 posts)
11. yeah. i dont want to see the program
Fri Jan 2, 2026, 08:37 AM
3 hrs ago

detached from being an insurance/individual benefit.
start paying bennies out of someone else’s money and it becomes a major target. (and yes, i realize current wage earners r paying my benefits.)
i fear the roots of the program r about to b lost and forgotten.

Shrek

(4,387 posts)
13. +1
Fri Jan 2, 2026, 08:40 AM
3 hrs ago

SS was originally meant to be social insurance, i.e. a way to mitigate the risk of poverty in old age.

It's widely popular but support will drop if it becomes explicitly a program for transfer payments.

paleotn

(21,486 posts)
19. It is a tax no matter how you want to slice it and that's fine.
Fri Jan 2, 2026, 09:15 AM
2 hrs ago

Just like your car, life and homeowners insurance are household costs no different really from your mortgage, rent and groceries. The nomenclature is meaningless. A supposition on my part, but if you think there's some kind of "lock box" somewhere, you're sorely mistaken. Pissed me off every time Al Gore even mentioned those words. Each generation pays the retirement of the prior generation and so on and so on and so on. It's fair and it works. Excess funds are invested in US government securities by law, drawing interest on the debt from general government operations.

jonstl08

(536 posts)
14. Keep the employer cap
Fri Jan 2, 2026, 08:45 AM
2 hrs ago

Keep the employer cap but eliminate the employee cap. Or you could cut the FICA tax in half for people over the cap so they receive a cut.

Takket

(23,458 posts)
17. but then the rich would have slightly less money and is so, how can they create jobs for everyone?
Fri Jan 2, 2026, 09:09 AM
2 hrs ago
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