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malaise

(292,532 posts)
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 06:09 PM 17 hrs ago

That Swiss fire - Looks like bottle sparklers killed all those people

Last edited Thu Jan 1, 2026, 06:40 PM - Edit history (1)

And burned up over a hundred more of those young people this morning

Looks like they are available at party stores or you can make your own

Bottom line - careless fire security in night clubs across this planet.
I won’t even mention the lack of fire escapes.

Ban bottle sparklers immediately.

New York Post says the club advertised the champagne sparklers - effin morons


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That Swiss fire - Looks like bottle sparklers killed all those people (Original Post) malaise 17 hrs ago OP
Very much like The Station night club fire in RI NewHendoLib 17 hrs ago #1
Yep malaise 17 hrs ago #2
Indoor fireworks never a good idea. Sneederbunk 17 hrs ago #3
Really dumb malaise 17 hrs ago #6
I am constantly disappointed in how selfishly oblivious people can be about RockRaven 17 hrs ago #4
Agree 100% malaise 17 hrs ago #5
You would think the Swiss would be better about safety Hassin Bin Sober 17 hrs ago #8
We are responsible for our own safety malaise 16 hrs ago #10
I Think There Is A Strong... ProfessorGAC 16 hrs ago #18
I would think the country that requires fallout shelters in homes Hassin Bin Sober 16 hrs ago #20
Perhaps ProfessorGAC 16 hrs ago #24
Had no idea what a bottle sparkler is canetoad 17 hrs ago #7
Had to look them up myself malaise 17 hrs ago #9
Not the best link but still malaise 16 hrs ago #11
What on earth were they thinking? Ms. Toad 16 hrs ago #12
Dumb asses malaise 16 hrs ago #13
Oh Dear God!!! calimary 16 hrs ago #14
All for more excitement and drama malaise 16 hrs ago #16
Sparklers very close to a wooden ceiling in an all wooden indoor ski resort building IronLionZion 16 hrs ago #15
Just make sure your relatives know that when they see bottle spRklers malaise 16 hrs ago #22
This!!! calimary 16 hrs ago #27
I don't even want a sparkling cake -damn madness malaise 15 hrs ago #32
Thet were warned by Steven James Hill in 2023 malaise 15 hrs ago #29
People should find ways to celebrate without fire IronLionZion 15 hrs ago #36
CNN just reported that it was an underground bar senseandsensibility 16 hrs ago #17
It did have a basement section malaise 16 hrs ago #19
Oh wow BlueWaveNeverEnd 14 hrs ago #40
From the Guardian malaise 5 hrs ago #47
Smoke on the water. Fire in the sky. Marcuse 16 hrs ago #21
Begs the question malaise 16 hrs ago #23
That was my first thought. BidenRocks 15 hrs ago #28
Kick dalton99a 16 hrs ago #25
Who needs terrorist attacks when you have malaise 16 hrs ago #26
Sparklers burn at over 1000 degrees. I can't my parents let us have them as safe fire works, and I can't ... marble falls 15 hrs ago #30
Lots of warnings abound malaise 15 hrs ago #31
As kids under twelve we could (and did) go to the corner store and buy a box of five sparklers for $.25. ... marble falls 15 hrs ago #34
These are different type of sparkler than those incense stick size pnes BlueWaveNeverEnd 14 hrs ago #42
Those aren't safe, either. Sparklers that use flame are dangerous. Period. I was worried by the metal wire being ... marble falls 12 hrs ago #43
Photo shows ceiling catching fire malaise 2 hrs ago #48
Am I missing something or is Champaign (alcohol) explosively flammable? Trust_Reality 15 hrs ago #33
Champaigne and wine doesn't have enough "octane" to burn freely. marble falls 15 hrs ago #35
No, it was the cheap poly soundproof ceiling panels KLK1972 15 hrs ago #38
They will never ban guns or alcohol malaise 15 hrs ago #39
Memories of Deep Purple gay texan 15 hrs ago #37
Bottle sparklers in action..many clubs use them to increase bottle sales BlueWaveNeverEnd 14 hrs ago #41
Suicidal malaise 6 hrs ago #45
They are not to be used indoors! NameAlreadyTaken 12 hrs ago #44
Clearly but where were the fire escapes malaise 6 hrs ago #46

NewHendoLib

(61,562 posts)
1. Very much like The Station night club fire in RI
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 06:11 PM
17 hrs ago

Band's fireworks started it and it spread in no time. Horrifying.

Inside the Station Nightclub Disaster : r/videos https://share.google/5GPqDULmofSLekoBF

RockRaven

(18,641 posts)
4. I am constantly disappointed in how selfishly oblivious people can be about
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 06:22 PM
17 hrs ago

all manner of hazards.

Yes there are systematic ways of improving safety, of protecting people from themselves. Of course those should be done.

But there is also: STOP AND THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU ARE DOING.

malaise

(292,532 posts)
5. Agree 100%
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 06:32 PM
17 hrs ago

Profit by any means - nothing else matters.
The other thing that disturbs me is so called intelligent people’s willingness to put themselves in danger.
I was invited on a boat ride recently - first thing I asked when I boarded was for a count of life jackets. There were five with eight passengers and three crew. I am a good swimmer but I declined the trip. 😀

Hassin Bin Sober

(27,371 posts)
8. You would think the Swiss would be better about safety
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 06:40 PM
17 hrs ago

Like those two guys who disappeared in Florida. $1.5 million dollar boat and a couple $500 dollar personal EPIRBS probably would have made all the difference

ProfessorGAC

(75,816 posts)
18. I Think There Is A Strong...
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 07:16 PM
16 hrs ago

...libertarian streak in Switzerland.
At least that's the sense I got the times I was there.

Hassin Bin Sober

(27,371 posts)
20. I would think the country that requires fallout shelters in homes
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 07:21 PM
16 hrs ago

… would have stronger building codes

Mate the mountain villages are more lax

ProfessorGAC

(75,816 posts)
24. Perhaps
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 07:26 PM
16 hrs ago

But, I spent my times in Zurich, Bern, & Geneva. So, I don’t know the countryside.
When I went to Kilchberg for a tour of the Lindt factory.
I have to say that the facility was extremely clean, but I didn't have time to see if everything was up to safety standards. Wouldn't surprise me if that was ok.
But, work injuries are costly, so even a libertarian cares about that.

canetoad

(20,167 posts)
7. Had no idea what a bottle sparkler is
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 06:36 PM
17 hrs ago

The look like little flamethrowers. Another nightclub tragedy. One Aussie injured right now.



malaise

(292,532 posts)
11. Not the best link but still
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 06:47 PM
16 hrs ago
https://nypost.com/2026/01/01/world-news/swiss-nightclub-where-47-people-died-advertised-flaming-champaign-bottles-in-eerie-promo-video-before-deadly-blaze/#:~:text=Witnesses%2520said%2520it%2520was%2520one,%E2%80%9CLe%2520Constellation%E2%80%9D%2520bar%2520on%2520fire.

Promotional videos showed waitresses weaving through the crowd with flaming champagne bottles held aloft and nearly brushing against the ceiling — a party gimmick witnesses say turned deadly around 1:30 a.m. local time.

The fire triggered a rapid “flashover,” igniting everything combustible in the room at once and sending panicked patrons scrambling toward the bar’s single staircase exit, witnesses said.

Ms. Toad

(38,170 posts)
12. What on earth were they thinking?
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 06:49 PM
16 hrs ago
“There were waitresses carrying champagne bottles with sparklers on them, and they carried them close to the ceiling, which caused it to catch fire,” one witness said.

One waitress was standing on another waiter’s shoulders, and the bottle and the flames were just a few centimeters away from the ceiling,” the other added.


https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/switzerland-ski-resort-fire-live-intl-hnk?post-id=cmjvggp110000356p2rhrxq28

calimary

(88,968 posts)
14. Oh Dear God!!!
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 07:06 PM
16 hrs ago

The survivors and mourners will NEVER think of New Year’s Eve the same way, for the rest of their lives. The only thing it’ll make them feel is pain.

malaise

(292,532 posts)
16. All for more excitement and drama
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 07:12 PM
16 hrs ago

Dead for no reason except greed and a complete breakdown of matters safety.
Please note that this is an upscale nightclub and sports bar .

IronLionZion

(50,795 posts)
15. Sparklers very close to a wooden ceiling in an all wooden indoor ski resort building
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 07:10 PM
16 hrs ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2026_Crans-Montana_bar_fire#Fire

I had a wicked thought. Dems in blue areas should ban this. Then MAGAts will do it to own the libs like they defied COVID protocols.

malaise

(292,532 posts)
22. Just make sure your relatives know that when they see bottle spRklers
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 07:22 PM
16 hrs ago

They must leave

malaise

(292,532 posts)
29. Thet were warned by Steven James Hill in 2023
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 07:46 PM
15 hrs ago

Bottle sparklers: A Hazardous fire risk for hospitality establishments.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/bottle-sparklers-hazardous-fire-risk-hospitality-steven-james-hill

The hospitality sector is an essential part of our society. It provides us with the opportunity to socialise, relax, and enjoy various forms of entertainment. However, these facilities are prone to risks, especially those that serve alcohol. The risk of fire in these establishments is a significant concern that cannot be ignored. Therefore, it is critical that they pay close attention to ensuring their fire protection systems are the best they can be.

The hospitality industry is a high-risk sector due to its unique environment, which involves the use of heating appliances, cooking equipment, electrical appliances, and the serving of alcohol. These factors, when not appropriately managed, can result in fire hazards. Moreover, the high number of people who gather in these establishments increases the risk of fatalities and injuries in the event of a fire.
Alcohol consumption in bars and nightclubs is a particular concern in fire safety because of the impairment it causes. When individuals consume alcohol, their reaction time and judgement are slowed, which can hinder their ability to evacuate safely in case of a fire. As a result, it is critical that establishments that serve alcohol take additional precautions to ensure the safety of their patrons.

Bottle sparklers have become increasingly popular in the hospitality industry as a way to create an exciting and celebratory atmosphere. However, the use of bottle sparklers also poses a fire risk that cannot be ignored.


IronLionZion

(50,795 posts)
36. People should find ways to celebrate without fire
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 08:04 PM
15 hrs ago

here in the US, fireworks have started very deadly wildfires in dry areas.

malaise

(292,532 posts)
47. From the Guardian
Fri Jan 2, 2026, 06:22 AM
5 hrs ago

“I think a large number of the injured, maybe between 80 and 100, are in a life-threatening condition,” Ganzer said on Friday. “When 15% or more of an adult’s body has third-degree burns, there is a risk of death in the days and hours that follow.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jan/02/swiss-ski-resort-fire-injured-life-threatening-condition


Marcuse

(8,783 posts)
21. Smoke on the water. Fire in the sky.
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 07:22 PM
16 hrs ago

Some stupid with a flare gun burned the place to the ground.

malaise

(292,532 posts)
23. Begs the question
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 07:25 PM
16 hrs ago

Would you risk your life for flaming excitement?
WTF iscwrong with these people?

BidenRocks

(2,727 posts)
28. That was my first thought.
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 07:42 PM
15 hrs ago

But then I'm old.
Most all these victims were teenagers I've heard.

marble falls

(70,760 posts)
30. Sparklers burn at over 1000 degrees. I can't my parents let us have them as safe fire works, and I can't ...
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 07:46 PM
15 hrs ago

... believe I did the same for my kids. We were so lucky, especially with what lunkheads we were as kids.

Wiki - A 2009 report from the National Council on Fireworks Safety indicated that sparklers are responsible for 16 percent of legal firework-related injuries in the United States.[6] The U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission's statistics from the Fourth of July festivities in 2003 indicate that sparklers were involved in a majority (57%) of fireworks injuries sustained by children under five years of age.[7]

The devices burn at a high temperature (as hot as 1000°C to 1600°C, or 1800°F to 3000°F), depending on the fuel and oxidizer used, more than sufficient to cause severe skin burns or ignite clothing.[12] Safety experts recommend that adults ensure children who handle sparklers be properly warned, supervised and wearing non-flammable clothing. As with all fireworks, sparklers are also capable of accidentally initiating wildfires. This is especially true in drier areas; in Australia, for instance, sparkler-related bushfire accidents have led to their banning at public outdoor events during summer like Australia Day celebrations.[13]

marble falls

(70,760 posts)
34. As kids under twelve we could (and did) go to the corner store and buy a box of five sparklers for $.25. ...
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 07:57 PM
15 hrs ago

... I let my daughters light sparklers and run around the front yard in synthetic night gowns. It could have been a disaster.

marble falls

(70,760 posts)
43. Those aren't safe, either. Sparklers that use flame are dangerous. Period. I was worried by the metal wire being ...
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 11:06 PM
12 hrs ago

... being red hot so I bought the gunpowder model you show. When my kids waved those around, fire jumped out all over the place. No more sparklers.

Trust_Reality

(2,272 posts)
33. Am I missing something or is Champaign (alcohol) explosively flammable?
Thu Jan 1, 2026, 07:56 PM
15 hrs ago

Be sure to ban the sparks and keep the fuel.

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