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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSo now we get whatever Bondi decides we get.
I'm sorry, I know it's super cool and all that 100% of the House and Senate voted for this except Clay Higgins, and I've also seen Bondi in action for the last 11 months.
We're going to get whatever she decides we're going to get.
And if Trump is 100% scrubbed from the files, he can say "SEE? I TOLD YOU I had nothing to hide."
Perhaps this should feel like a high-five moment to me. But I trust Bondi as far as I can throw her bottle blonde ass.
RockRaven
(18,441 posts)Congressional Repugs finally decided they don't want that smoke, and are letting Trump own it all.
Miles Archer
(20,913 posts)...if Bondi decides she's master of the universe and released scrubbed files, the world's going to cry "foul," and you will see leaks from other sources.
I am ALWAYS the FIRST ONE TO ADMIT IT when I'm wrong, and I don't think I am wrong on this.
I think Bondi's going to do a data dump that is 100% free of ANYTHING that even REMOTELY incriminates Trump.
COL Mustard
(7,816 posts)Would be the ideal time. No one is paying attention to news...Black Friday and Cyber Monday are coming!
pat_k
(12,504 posts)And failure to comply with this law is a CRIME.
A whole different ball of wax.
And I suspect the idiots don't yet appreciate the implications of the difference.
And of course, WAAAY too many people have seen what is in these files. They can try to classify the hell out of parts, but that will be challenged.
Nope. There is no putting this genie back in the bottle.
And whether it brings down the felon or not, it WILL be a scandal that sparks serious anger at people with vast wealth who believe they can get away with anything. And that anger won't just be directed at the people. It will be directed at the system that enabled them to accumulate obscene wealth. Wouldn't it be great if the Epstein scandal was one of the sparks that drives some serious reform?
marble falls
(69,427 posts)... loud admission of guilt.
Ilikepurple
(396 posts)It might be enough to put enough of his supporters over the edge, but Im not so sure it would be taken as an admission of guilt as much as competing evidence.
SamuelTheThird
(445 posts)I think we can all figure out that answer...this isn't a one 'side' issue.
That said, whatever trump is guilty of, it goes beyond sex with underaged girls (not saying that isn't a huge crime itself). Epstein was adamant that trump was the worst person he knew. So, there are probably corpses in Trump's wake.
marble falls
(69,427 posts)... usually viewed as a bad thing.
Nixon almost caused a mistrial of Charlie Manson just by telling a press conference Manson was guilty.
SamuelTheThird
(445 posts)But how do you know there was an active investigation of Epstein and Trump? I have not heard of that. What did I miss?
Justice matters.
(9,128 posts)She got Maxwell a 20-year sentence for sex trafficking.
She was still investigating the pedophiles to whom Maxwell sent the victims to when piggy pedo the felon fired her a few weeks ago for revenge against her father.
Miles Archer
(20,913 posts)All I can see is that scowling face. I don't trust her. Not one bit.
COL Mustard
(7,816 posts)I'm visiting family and Faux Snooze is on from morning till night. Their spin on this is amazing, and I'm sure their gnomes are up all night spinning new ways to mislead their viewers about it. Luckily it's on mute the whole time or I'd have to leave.
Chasstev365
(6,751 posts)Also, there are people outside of the administration who can prove it's bull shit.
I just wish there was a Daniel Ellsberg (Pentagon Papers leaker) who could preemptively leak the Epstein files complete with pictures and video.
To take Trump down, break Putin's (black mailing) hold on US foreign policy, save Ukrainians from a brutal war, and get justice for children who were as young as 13 at the time, going to jail might be worth it.
Miles Archer
(20,913 posts)And if you read the accounts of their relationship, it was a competitive, infantile "frat bro" relationship. Worse than that, lower on the IQ scale, maybe "a couple of horny eight graders" is closer to it.
I DO BELIEVE Trump getting pissed off whenever he got "one upped" by Epstein.
But for Trump to witness what was going on and decide that his moral character was so sterling that he walked away in repulsion.
No way, Ray. No way.
bucolic_frolic
(53,291 posts)"It's on my desk."
Deuxcents
(24,817 posts)BlueKota
(4,918 posts)at least they can't be redacted without others calling them out on it.
Deuxcents
(24,817 posts)bluestarone
(20,821 posts)The house should vote for TSF to over ride her decision. HE says release them. HE has full power to do that. Also the senate should as well.
BannonsLiver
(20,121 posts)While then portraying those who dont buy into the lie nut bags. You can practically set your watch to this shit its so obvious whats going to happen.
viva la
(4,414 posts)Supposedly hundreds of them were taken away from real crime-fighting to redact all references to Trump.
AverageOldGuy
(3,167 posts)I'm not celebrating a thing. Trump will skate on this one just as he has skated his entire life.
Cirsium
(3,165 posts)Or was it Mueller time?
Miles Archer
(20,913 posts)We'll see what happens.
I also remember Bill Barr's 4-page "summary" of the Mueller report, which concluded that the ten instances of obstruction of justice documented in the report meant that there were no instances of obstruction of justice.
Cirsium
(3,165 posts)As bad as things were back then, I think they are much worse
now. I am not optimistic.
Bev54
(13,053 posts)It certainly wasn't because they want the actual files released, it was because there was another wall behind them.
Beartracks
(14,223 posts)... while waiting for Congress -- specifically while Johnson bought him time by keeping the House in recess and Grijalva unseated.
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Raven123
(7,331 posts)evilhime
(369 posts)I think he told them to vote for it because it was already scrubbed and shredded and sanitized and redacted i would be surprised if there were millions of redactions in there, all republican names. I dont care what side of the aisle you are on if you committed this crime of participation in child rape, abuse, sexual trafficking etc. you should be prosecuted to the fulllest extent of the law and deal with the consequences. The GQP preaches that the children are our future but do nothing to ensure they are educated, loved, cared for, protected. (Sorry for the rant)
sagetea
(1,534 posts)When have they ever done anything trustworthy?
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