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lindysalsagal

(22,793 posts)
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 12:39 PM 11 hrs ago

2025- This is the patriarchy attempting to maintain it's ancient grip on women and children

https://www.populationmedia.org/the-latest/unmasking-the-patriarchy-its-origins-impact-and-the-path-to-equality

According to author Angela Saini “The first clear signs of women being treated categorically differently from men appear much later, in the first states in ancient Mesopotamia, the historical region around the Tigris and Euphrates rivers in what is now Iraq, Syria and Turkey.
5000 years ago.

We really shouldn't have expected the patriarchy to just give up with a shrug in a century, after 5000 years.

The bottom line is, feudal societies were by law patriarchal. In the last few centuries, the old brittish dominance continued to give white male straight christian (english) men privileges they really believe they are entitled to. Now, with intermarriage and global immigration, they're the minority and they're freaking terrified.

This will be a fight, but freedom and democracy will ultimately win.
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2025- This is the patriarchy attempting to maintain it's ancient grip on women and children (Original Post) lindysalsagal 11 hrs ago OP
DURec leftstreet 11 hrs ago #1
K&R musette_sf 11 hrs ago #2
"arya" (aryanism) common to all three: Iraq, Syria, Turkey. Also found in Abraham (ra: arya) RedWhiteBlueIsRacist 11 hrs ago #3
The term comes from Sanskrit and spans a large geographical area. The "aryan race" is a new use" erronis 8 hrs ago #7
Climate Change's Psychological Impact cbabe 11 hrs ago #4
Religion is bad news for women get the red out 11 hrs ago #5
Patriarchy existed long before any recorded religion. ancianita 8 hrs ago #6
I didn't say it didn't get the red out 7 hrs ago #10
Okay, but in case you were implying it... sure patriarchy's longevity in NO way absolves those who live by it. ancianita 7 hrs ago #12
Two thousand years ago, Jesus was the first feminist. ancianita 8 hrs ago #8
Where is Jesus now? get the red out 7 hrs ago #9
Like his Father who sent him -- God -- he can be everywhere to those whose free wills choose to call on him. ancianita 7 hrs ago #11

RedWhiteBlueIsRacist

(1,530 posts)
3. "arya" (aryanism) common to all three: Iraq, Syria, Turkey. Also found in Abraham (ra: arya)
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 12:53 PM
11 hrs ago

Aryanism: The Abrahamic curse?

erronis

(22,000 posts)
7. The term comes from Sanskrit and spans a large geographical area. The "aryan race" is a new use"
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 03:28 PM
8 hrs ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aryan

Aryan (/ˈɛəriən/), or Arya (borrowed from Sanskrit ārya),[1] is a term originating from the ethno-cultural self-designation of the Indo-Iranians.[2][3] It stood in contrast to nearby outsiders, whom they designated as non-Aryan (*an-āryā .[4] In ancient India, the term was used by the Indo-Aryan peoples of the Vedic period, both as an endonym and in reference to a region called Aryavarta (lit. 'Land of the Aryans'),[a] where their culture emerged.[5] Similarly, according to the Avesta, the Iranian peoples used the term to designate themselves as an ethnic group and to refer to a region called Airyanem Vaejah (lit. 'Expanse of the Arya'), which was their mythical homeland.[6][7] The word stem also forms the etymological source of place names like Alania (*Aryāna) and Iran (*Aryānām).[8]

Although the stem *arya may originate from the Proto-Indo-European language,[9] it seems to have been used exclusively by the Indo-Iranian peoples, as there is no evidence of it having served as an ethnonym for the Proto-Indo-Europeans. The view of many modern scholars is that the ethos of the ancient Aryan identity, as it is described in the Avesta and the Rigveda, was religious, cultural, and linguistic, and was not tied to the concept of race.[10][11][12]

In the 1850s, the French diplomat and writer Arthur de Gobineau brought forth the idea of the "Aryan race", essentially claiming that the Proto-Indo-Europeans were superior specimens of humans and that their descendants comprised either a distinct racial group or a distinct sub-group of the hypothetical Caucasian race. Through the work of his later followers, such as the British-German philosopher Houston Stewart Chamberlain, Gobineau's theory proved to be particularly popular among European racial supremacists and ultimately laid the foundation for Nazi racial theories, which also co-opted the concept of scientific racism.[13]

cbabe

(5,944 posts)
4. Climate Change's Psychological Impact
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 12:54 PM
11 hrs ago
https://magazine.publichealth.jhu.edu/2024/climate-changes-psychological-impact

Climate Change’s Psychological Impact

Johns Hopkins Public Health

Extreme weather is amplifying mental health crises across the world. Solutions are needed now.

By Marilyn Perkins • Illustration by Patrick Kirchner


You always have this looming fear,” she says. Survivors of California’s 2018 Camp wildfire were diagnosed with PTSD at a rate on par with war veterans.

But slower-onset climate change effects—like drought, rising sea levels, land cover change, and increasing temperatures—can cause stress over time that can ignite into violence like the 2019 Fulani massacre.

What’s more, growing research shows that extreme heat can provoke aggression and increase suicide risk. In this way, climate change becomes a “threat multiplier” for mental illness, says Lasater.

“Where poverty, unstable employment, fragile infrastructure, conflict, geographic vulnerability to extreme weather events, or food insecurity exist, there’s a greater likelihood of loss of livelihood, loss of life, or loss of a sense of control, which all have negative mental health consequences,” adds Department of Mental Health chair Pamela Collins, MD, MPH.

… more …

(When they realize they can’t control the tides. Is this why they also hate solar and wind energy?)

get the red out

(13,889 posts)
5. Religion is bad news for women
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 12:55 PM
11 hrs ago

I hate the instition. Not saying that all Christians are bad, but the loudest, and now most powerful, lot of them spoiled to rot when people they consider lower level humans started getting the rights they were entitled to.

ancianita

(42,626 posts)
6. Patriarchy existed long before any recorded religion.
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 03:22 PM
8 hrs ago

These records pre-date the Code of Hammurabi (754 BC) and Egyptian texts (3,000 BC) and the Mesopotamian Epic of Gilgamesh (2500 BC).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_literalist_chronology

get the red out

(13,889 posts)
10. I didn't say it didn't
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 04:20 PM
7 hrs ago

I said that most Religion is bad news for women. In my 61 years on the planet I have seen more bad than good from it for women. Yes, some denominations supported the 19th Amendment.

"WHAT-ABOUT" patriarchy existing before recorded religion? In what way does that absolve the huge numbers of Christians in the US of fighting against human rights every day?

ancianita

(42,626 posts)
12. Okay, but in case you were implying it... sure patriarchy's longevity in NO way absolves those who live by it.
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 04:49 PM
7 hrs ago

It is not what believers say they believe, it is what they DO that proves what they believe. There is no one on Earth who is the spiritual superior of another. Not one.

The power and privileges won by free will uses of fear, force and violence are hard to give up.

Mere equality is intolerable for millions, and the fight for ALL human rights goes on. I get it. I'm with you.

Know that I've personally and professionally worked for human rights all my life. I've got plenty of stories that span decades.

ancianita

(42,626 posts)
8. Two thousand years ago, Jesus was the first feminist.
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 03:29 PM
8 hrs ago

All Jesus followers (but not the Paul followers) are feminist like he was. And Jesus was not about religion, anyway. There are patriarchal christians, and then there are Christ followers.




Paul, who was not Jesus, finally recognizes Jesus's feminism in his letter to the Galatians 3:28, where he states,
"There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus". This scripture emphasizes the unity and equality of all believers in God, asserting that earthly divisions like ethnicity and gender are insignificant in Christ.

Which means that unity in Christ is a spiritual unity that transcends social, ethnic, and gender divides that were prominent in the first century.
Paul claims in his New Testament letter to the Galatians that all people are equal as children of God, regardless of their background or social status, and that one's ultimate worth and belonging are found in their spiritual connection, not in worldly distinctions.
Paul, in spite of his sexual hangups, still follows Jesus, and calls on others as fellow children of God and to break down the walls that create division.

ancianita

(42,626 posts)
11. Like his Father who sent him -- God -- he can be everywhere to those whose free wills choose to call on him.
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 04:37 PM
7 hrs ago

God IS existence itself, beyond space and time.

Western culture -- whole universities across the world, university departments of antiquity, philosophy, theology, art, architecture, music, western sciences (from nano, subatomic, quantum, micro and macro, etc), Humanities, and Western law, are based on what happened because of Jesus.

Jesus is present in millions of Masses across six continents every single day.

In the Gospel of Luke chap 10: v.16:
"Jesus said to his disciples, “Whoever listens to you listens to me; whoever rejects you rejects me; and whoever rejects me rejects the One who sent me.”

In the Gospel of Matthew chap 28: v 18-20:
" And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in Earth.

Go you therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name [not the nameS] of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost

Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen."



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