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B.See

(7,332 posts)
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 06:40 PM 6 hrs ago

'Could bring him down': Senator says Trump was 'clearly at center of child sex ring'

'Could bring him down': Senator says Trump was 'clearly at center of child sex ring' - Rawstory

With a vote on releasing files related to Jeffrey Epstein just days away, Sen. Chris Murphy (D-CT) said this weekend that it was clear... Donald Trump was “at the center of a child sex ring,” and that (Trump's) behavior over the past week made it clear that the files contained “something especially and specifically incriminating.”

“What we've already seen is immensely incriminating; clearly, Donald Trump was at the center of a child sex ring,” Murphy said, speaking over the weekend with The Bulwark Managing Editor Sam Stein during a panel.


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'Could bring him down': Senator says Trump was 'clearly at center of child sex ring' (Original Post) B.See 6 hrs ago OP
That's throwing a punch BeyondGeography 6 hrs ago #1
That's incredible... Mike Nelson 6 hrs ago #2
Or Lingering in Epstein's Bedroom for Hours with Likely Drugged Underaged Women The Roux Comes First 6 hrs ago #4
Or... Mike Nelson 6 hrs ago #10
You thought that? BWdem4life 3 hrs ago #17
So is Lindsey Halligan going to a GJ to get Sen. Murphy indicted too? MarineCombatEngineer 6 hrs ago #3
She Seems to Have a Remarkable Knack for Bollixing Up Everything She Touches The Roux Comes First 6 hrs ago #6
As A Sexual Predator OR As The Money Launderer?.....nt global1 6 hrs ago #5
Good question. Possibly B.See 6 hrs ago #7
One thing I don't see discussed much misanthrope 6 hrs ago #8
Senator Wyden has the goods on the financial stuff but has has a hard time getting it to go any where. He has put Amaryllis 6 hrs ago #11
I feel like "Did miss something?" by missing some news? electric_blue68 6 hrs ago #9
So much is happening so fast, PatSeg 5 hrs ago #14
Whoa! Joinfortmill 5 hrs ago #12
Modeling agencies are a classic vehicle RockCreek 5 hrs ago #13
Child sex rings, money laundering, kompromat, blackmail, .... Escape 5 hrs ago #15
Not to minimize what Senator Murphy is saying by any means, but until a real live, none-retiring Republican... the nelm 5 hrs ago #16
... said Sen. R.U. New (D-CT) BaronChocula 3 hrs ago #18
Well, he did say "could," so B.See 3 hrs ago #20
He's toast now.. Permanut 3 hrs ago #19
Isn't this like a one phone call thing? Blue Owl 1 hr ago #21

Mike Nelson

(10,843 posts)
2. That's incredible...
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 06:54 PM
6 hrs ago

... I wonder if Sen. Murphy knows something we haven't seen, yet? The "center" means, to me, manager or co-manager status... something equal to Epstein and Maxwell. I thought Crooked Donald's involvement was more fringe... or onlooker.

The Roux Comes First

(1,984 posts)
4. Or Lingering in Epstein's Bedroom for Hours with Likely Drugged Underaged Women
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 07:00 PM
6 hrs ago

And this was doubtless not a one-time occurrence.

BWdem4life

(2,859 posts)
17. You thought that?
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 09:19 PM
3 hrs ago

That The Donald would stand by and watch his friend make all kinds of money and not want a major piece of the action?

MarineCombatEngineer

(16,906 posts)
3. So is Lindsey Halligan going to a GJ to get Sen. Murphy indicted too?
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 06:59 PM
6 hrs ago

She ain't been having too much luck with the judges so far.

The Roux Comes First

(1,984 posts)
6. She Seems to Have a Remarkable Knack for Bollixing Up Everything She Touches
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 07:02 PM
6 hrs ago

And pissing off the few judges not previously bought off by the orange felon and the "heritage" foundation.

misanthrope

(9,303 posts)
8. One thing I don't see discussed much
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 07:05 PM
6 hrs ago

is Jeffrey Epstein's other passions beyond sheer sexual depravity. The biggest of those was shady financial dealing and it was a huge part of how he amassed the power he had.

Now while many of us have our suspicions that Trump was a "short eyed" sexual predator, we know for certain he is magnetically drawn to illegal financial hijinks. He can't help himself. I have to wonder if that isn't as much a part of his paranoia about the Epstein files as anything else.

Amaryllis

(10,838 posts)
11. Senator Wyden has the goods on the financial stuff but has has a hard time getting it to go any where. He has put
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 07:16 PM
6 hrs ago

several years into investigating it.

electric_blue68

(24,954 posts)
9. I feel like "Did miss something?" by missing some news?
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 07:08 PM
6 hrs ago

I haven't followed it supper closely, but enough, I think. He is, Epstein was, Ghislaine is a monster. Years of hideous criminal actions.

You go, Sen Murphy!

PatSeg

(51,503 posts)
14. So much is happening so fast,
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 07:41 PM
5 hrs ago

it is hard to keep up. Meanwhile, people are still examining what has been released and more of the whole picture seems to be coming together.

Chris Murphy doesn't tend to be hyperbolic, so I am assuming that what he says is based on solid evidence.

RockCreek

(1,163 posts)
13. Modeling agencies are a classic vehicle
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 07:35 PM
5 hrs ago

And he had a modeling agency in the relevant time period.
Epstein is known to have had direct connections of the worst kind with a French modeling agency. The guy who ran it, who repeatedly raped Virginia Guifre, died of reported suicide while in jail for his illegal modelling related "activities" a few years ago.

Escape

(332 posts)
15. Child sex rings, money laundering, kompromat, blackmail, ....
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 07:46 PM
5 hrs ago

Epstein and Trump were made for each other.

the nelm

(212 posts)
16. Not to minimize what Senator Murphy is saying by any means, but until a real live, none-retiring Republican...
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 08:13 PM
5 hrs ago

Senator says something like this, it unfortunately doesn't move the ball that much. They are still the majority and still aren't budging. When that majority starts to crack, then I'll start thinking there might be some real justice. In the meantime, Senator Murphy keep pounding them with facts and truth.

BaronChocula

(3,779 posts)
18. ... said Sen. R.U. New (D-CT)
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 09:19 PM
3 hrs ago

I love Murphy's optimism, but rubber and road don't always meet. After everything for which the molten orange blob has been given a pass, I'm not holding my breath. But I hope he's right.

B.See

(7,332 posts)
20. Well, he did say "could," so
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 09:35 PM
3 hrs ago

I didn't read it so much as optimism as wishful thinking.

Permanut

(7,765 posts)
19. He's toast now..
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 09:33 PM
3 hrs ago

Oh, wait, I thought he was toast when he called war casualties "suckers and losers", or when he vilified the Kahn family, or when he was convicted of 34 counts of fraud, or when he said of Charlottesville that there were "fine people on both sides", or when he pardoned 1500 thugs who attacked the capital.

Never mind.

Blue Owl

(57,936 posts)
21. Isn't this like a one phone call thing?
Tue Nov 18, 2025, 12:11 AM
1 hr ago

tRump is at the center of a child sex ring.

BOOM. Presidency OVER.

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