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CentralMass

(16,758 posts)
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 04:44 PM 4 hrs ago

Elon Musk Warns 'The Only Way to Get Us Out of the Debt Crisis' and 'Prevent America from Going Bankrupt is AI and Robot

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"In a wide-ranging conversation on the Joe Rogan Experience, Tesla (TSLA) and SpaceX CEO Elon Musk offered a characteristically direct assessment of the United States’ fiscal trajectory. Known for speaking bluntly about technology, governance, and long-term societal risks, Musk framed the national debt not merely as a political challenge, but as a structural threat to the country’s economic future. His remarks reflect longstanding concerns he has raised about government inefficiency, declining industrial productivity, and the need for technological acceleration to maintain global competitiveness.
During the discussion, Musk argued that “the only way to get us out of the debt crisis and prevent America from going bankrupt is AI and robotics,” a conclusion he reached after observing what he described as unsustainable growth in federal obligations. He noted that interest payments on the national debt now exceed major federal expenditures, including the military budget — a comparison he called a personal “wake-up call.”
According to Musk, traditional political tools are insufficient: “You can make it directionally better, but ultimately you can’t fully fix the system… there’s no way to solve the debt crisis” without economic expansion at a scale only advanced automation could provide.:
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Elon Musk Warns 'The Only Way to Get Us Out of the Debt Crisis' and 'Prevent America from Going Bankrupt is AI and Robot (Original Post) CentralMass 4 hrs ago OP
I thought his DOGE crap was supposed to save us leftstreet 4 hrs ago #1
Another BSer trying to sell us AI newdeal2 4 hrs ago #2
The jobs are disappearing as we speak. CentralMass 4 hrs ago #3
That's one of the reasons why we are here.................... Lovie777 4 hrs ago #4
A bond villian in the making. CentralMass 4 hrs ago #6
I would say the making is complete misanthrope 2 hrs ago #25
Tax the rich yankee87 4 hrs ago #5
50% Would Do ProfessorGAC 2 hrs ago #20
We need a progressive wealth tax that addresses systemic abuses and prevents the existence of billionaires, period. Moostache 1 hr ago #30
FFS! 2naSalit 4 hrs ago #7
Says the tax dodger who just demanded 1 trillion dollars and is actively undermining Democracy. Fuck That Guy! chowder66 4 hrs ago #8
Hey Elon, with your trillions, you could do some good. Paper Roses 4 hrs ago #9
That idiot is so full of shit it's a pathetic. Autumn 4 hrs ago #10
I wouldn't trust ONE WORD out of this motherfucker's fucking mouth Blue Owl 4 hrs ago #11
Nationalizing Eloon's loot would help /nt bucolic_frolic 4 hrs ago #12
Just what I was thinking when I read the OP. Ellipsis 2 hrs ago #23
"They say the working class is dead, we're all consumers now." sop 4 hrs ago #13
How about real intelligence instead of the artificial kind? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin 4 hrs ago #14
Well, of COURSE the solution is NOT to tax the shit out of the wealthiest Americans, bless your hearts! AZJonnie 4 hrs ago #15
Tax Elon to mars and back Blues Heron 3 hrs ago #16
Nazi asshole needs to overdose dalton99a 3 hrs ago #17
THIS is the latest fever dream...... Red Mountain 2 hrs ago #18
Not just migrants misanthrope 2 hrs ago #26
I have a better idea. Let TAX HIM. Volaris 2 hrs ago #19
Yes, eliminating 10s of millions of jobs forever (with shitty AI) is the path to prosperity . . . hatrack 2 hrs ago #21
I believe there is no stopping AI Melon 2 hrs ago #22
Elon Musk is a threat to humanity misanthrope 2 hrs ago #24
Says the clown that built up his businesses on Klarkashton 2 hrs ago #27
Go try that on Mars asshole dweller 1 hr ago #28
Wodrld wide AI and robotics will result in hundreds of millions of jobs being lost, and markets collapsing. patphil 1 hr ago #29
How do you get this massive economic expansion with 50 million Americans unemployed from AI replacement? NickB79 29 min ago #31
... orangecrush 22 min ago #32

Lovie777

(21,145 posts)
4. That's one of the reasons why we are here....................
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 04:50 PM
4 hrs ago

another reason, don't fucking throw people off their jobs without a an alternative of how they are going to take care of families.

Musk got so much money and he doesn't still even care.

misanthrope

(9,302 posts)
25. I would say the making is complete
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 07:25 PM
2 hrs ago

So would those who suffered and died because he gutted USAID.

ProfessorGAC

(75,248 posts)
20. 50% Would Do
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 07:01 PM
2 hrs ago

Besides when the rate was 91%, only a tiny percentage of people eligible for that tax rate actually paid 91%.
Make total compensation eligible to be taxed as regular wages, raise the dividend tax rate to 33% on money over $1 million, and add 39, 44, & 50% upper marginal rates on income. Again, total compensation to employment derived income of any form.
The 91% thing is typically misunderstood because how few people paid over 50% was is not discussed.

Moostache

(10,926 posts)
30. We need a progressive wealth tax that addresses systemic abuses and prevents the existence of billionaires, period.
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 07:58 PM
1 hr ago

It should be so disadvantageous to possess more than $1,000,000,000.00 in NET assets that business owners and these current asshats would be falling all over themselves to avoid the taxes that kick in at that level. Further more, I would even support capital punishment for any billionaire caught cheating on their taxes. I would simply load them all onto Bezos' next dick shaped rocket and fire them into orbit without a return trip. Let them all off themselves in orbit.

chowder66

(11,575 posts)
8. Says the tax dodger who just demanded 1 trillion dollars and is actively undermining Democracy. Fuck That Guy!
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 04:55 PM
4 hrs ago

Paper Roses

(7,600 posts)
9. Hey Elon, with your trillions, you could do some good.
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 04:57 PM
4 hrs ago

With all your money, most comes from the US, you could help the American people survive the mess you and trump have created.
You could finance healthcare for those who count on Medicare, support SNAP, and other critical situations this country is in.Your trillions could do so much for other parts of the world.
Remember, you can't take it with you! Might as well do some good after the mess you have created.

sop

(16,902 posts)
13. "They say the working class is dead, we're all consumers now."
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 05:22 PM
4 hrs ago

'The Age of Self' - Robert Wyatt

They say the working class is dead, we're all consumers now
They say that we have moved ahead, we're all just people now
There's people doing 'frightfully well' there's others on the shelf
But never mind the second kind this is the age of self

They say we need new images to help our movement grow
They say that life is broader based as if we didn't know
While Martin J. and Robert M. play with printer's ink
The workers 'round the world still die for Rio Tinto Zinc

And it seems to me if we forget
Our roots and where we stand
The movement will disintegrate
Like castles built on sand

AZJonnie

(2,305 posts)
15. Well, of COURSE the solution is NOT to tax the shit out of the wealthiest Americans, bless your hearts!
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 05:29 PM
4 hrs ago

No, obviously the only way is to assfuck poor/middle class people by automating all their jobs out of existence, and cutting the government benefits that keep them alive, some of which they actively paid into their whole lives.

Naturally!

Red Mountain

(2,215 posts)
18. THIS is the latest fever dream......
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 06:43 PM
2 hrs ago

A. Robots will replace the migrants doing manual labor, working as health care aids, picking crops.....

B. Tesla will be ideally positioned to supply those robots


That's it. There's nothing more to it.

The robots won't be ready. And they'll be FAR too expensive.

But they'll bump up the stock price and keep the money rolling into Elon's pockets.


misanthrope

(9,302 posts)
26. Not just migrants
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 07:28 PM
2 hrs ago

They will move on to scrubbing the world of all of us if they get their way.

hatrack

(63,993 posts)
21. Yes, eliminating 10s of millions of jobs forever (with shitty AI) is the path to prosperity . . .
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 07:07 PM
2 hrs ago

People will be ready to spend, spend, spend!!!!

Why does anyone take this sack of steaming kudu shit seriously on any topic?

Melon

(901 posts)
22. I believe there is no stopping AI
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 07:17 PM
2 hrs ago

Look at how far its come in the last 2 years. AI is now literally working to develop AI.
We are the horse and buggy laughing at the car at this point. The US can’t fall behind because Asia is developing AI and robot technologies full press.

I watched a tattoo artist interview a year ago saying he can never be replaced. How many think the same? A huge portion of tattoos are now AI drawn and the technology easily exists to develop machines to do the tattoo. Cost just needs to catch up to profit.

dweller

(27,602 posts)
28. Go try that on Mars asshole
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 07:33 PM
1 hr ago

And leave us alone … and tax the billionaires and trillionaires .

That will fix some of the mess you’ve created .




✌🏻

patphil

(8,502 posts)
29. Wodrld wide AI and robotics will result in hundreds of millions of jobs being lost, and markets collapsing.
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 07:40 PM
1 hr ago

Where are the people who lose their jobs going to get the money to live on, let along money for non-essential goods and services? This will cause a ripple effect through the remaining economy, resulting in millions more being put out of work.
And we know governments aren't going to provide for the general welfare in an economy where there isn't anyone left to tax.
One of the first things to go away will be free, open and honest elections. The rich won't allow it.
All this could come to pass in 20-30 years.
If you don't think so, just look how much has changed in the past decade, and we're in the infancy of this whole labor revolution. It's picking up speed quickly.

NickB79

(20,164 posts)
31. How do you get this massive economic expansion with 50 million Americans unemployed from AI replacement?
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 09:04 PM
29 min ago

You actually need, ya know, living breathing CONSUMERS to buy the goods and services that the AI and robotics revolution will produce.

Robots and AI don't buy new homes, cars, clothes, phones, washing machines, groceries, etc.

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