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Will that material will become public once Comey gets it? I'm dying to see what's in it!

Having read the order, I've learned that the grand jury proceedings will remain sealed, at least for now, and that only Comey and his lawyers will be allowed to see them. But from the discussion in the memorandum it's pretty clear that the judge suspects Halligan lied to the court and never actually presented the second indictment to the grand jury at all.

I thought there were lapses.

But it looks like Lindsey Hooligan might have lied about the manner in which she presented the indictment to the grand jury.

What happened is that the prosecutor had presented the grand jury with two inconsistent indictments, the first with three counts and the second removing the first count. Both indictments were fully executed by grand jury foreperson and the prosecutor. After questioning the GJ foreperson the magistrate judge accepted the return of the second signed indictment, which was a new indictment that would have been presented to the GJ before being returned in open court. It now appears that may not have happened. The prosecutor stated that after the grand jury was left to deliberate on the first indictment at approximately 4:28 p.m., she had no further contact with the grand jury, and that about two hours later the acting assistant USA notified her that the grand jury returned a true bill on only two of the three counts of the first indictment. The prosecutor then went to the courtroom for the return of the indictment. The hearing on the return of the indictment began only about 7 minutes later.

Or has she found a way to not loose on substance of the trial, appease Trump's ambitions to smear Comey, and thus somehow stay on the good side of the Trump train?

but even as incompetent as she clearly is, she must know that this case would never get as far as a trial. The whole point of Trump's prosecutions is not to obtain convictions but to subject his adversaries and critics to the maximum expense, embarrassment and inconvenience necessary to defeat the charges. So Lindsey Hooligan is apparently willing to make an ass of herself and even risk her license to make Trump happy. God only knows why.

This is just his version of Wyatt Earp's vendetta ride. He know they won't be convicted he just wants them to suffer.

True bill (indictment) with two counts L https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.vaed.582136/gov.uscourts.vaed.582136.1.0_13.pdf

Report of Grand Jury's Failure to Concur in an Indictment and, attached, copy of True Bill with three counts.
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.vaed.582136/gov.uscourts.vaed.582136.3.0_8.pdf

What this suggests is that the grand jury was presented with a three count indictment that it signed. It also was presented with the standard blank form used when the Grand Jury doesn't indict. That form on its face would apply to a total reaction of an indictment, but was amended by the hand-written insertion of the words "Count 1 Only".

What is unclear is when each of these document was given to the Grand Jury and when they were signed and who filled in and amended the no true bill form -- which is a standard form.

One scenario is that the Grand Jury foreperson was presented with a three-count indictment and the no true bill form at the same time. I don't know if this is a standard procedure or whether the no true bill form is only given the the foreperson after they've voted on the proposed indictment. But even if the original proposed indictment and the no true bill form were signed by the foreperson at the same time, there is no reason to think that they were also given the two count indictment until after foreperson signed the three count indictment and the no true bill form.

We don't have access to the transcript of the proceeding before the judge when these documents were presented but it obviously doesn't provide information that satisfied the judge that the matter was handled or described properly.

The days of the presumption of good faith are gone.

RFN

May I assume Bondi should be disbarred? Or tried and jailed? She is an embarrassment to her law school, Stetson University School of Law. Only the best.

A long, long time ago, two Sailors Senior to me were arguing about how to do a task. Our Senior Chief listened for awhile then interjected in a loud aggravating tone, “what’s the fucking book say.” That’s what the Judge told trumps mob. Do what the book says. Really, really easy to comply.

Such facts would be of interest to office holders with integrity. In other words she is safe in her job.

the "Attorney" General part in the title.

Not sure where the poster who said she can got his/her information from, I would like to read that information though.

I’ll stay out of the selecting attorneys general business. Doing the right thing the right way isn’t in trumps plans. Appreciate your info. It would seem one must be a lawyer to be the number one attorney in the country.

And should not be allowed to practice law once she is no longer AG

No, a disbarred Attorney General cannot continue in their role because they would no longer meet the minimum professional and legal requirements for the job. The Attorney General position requires an active law license, and disbarment revokes this license, making them ineligible to continue in office.

These flunkies at the Trump DOJ want to draw it out so that Comey is in the wind and paying by the hour. It's obviously a pure harassment prosecution. But Fitzgerald is like "Nah. Docs now. Let's go. Speedy trial. Let's go."

Of course, the Trump DOJ has nothing of value, so it exposes them as well.

ON EDIT: Wow, I didn't realize scanning that this was actually the Grand Jury material, not the usual foot dragging over discovery. Yikes. That's wild.

...should be fired. None of this, "but I was only following orders!" bullshit. None of this, "but I needed my job!" bullshit.

Most of these """professionals""" are bound by a code of ethics and should know better. If they don't, GTFO our government, you fascist bootlickers.

Halligan does not know criminal law and made some major unforced errors with this grand jury

Link to tweet

Yah think? 😀
Halligan will soon be Halligone

And it’s all starting to fall apart ON YOU, donald.