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GreatGazoo

(4,311 posts)
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 09:53 AM 15 hrs ago

Censorship Almost Always Exempts the Rich and Powerful

Did some research on the history of censorship going back to 1580. Found the same dynamic repeated over and over -- the methods and targets of censorship imply that the rich can handle misinformation, porn, unpopular truths and the actual horrors of war but those same things must be hidden or denied to low income families.

We have all been told that in Shakespeare's era women were not allowed to perform in stage plays. And that was true but only for public performances. But simultaneously, inside the monarchy, uncensored works were performed and female roles were performed by Mary Sydney and others, possibly Queen Elizabeth herself.

From 1560 to 1966 the Vatican maintained Index Librorum Prohibitorum, a list of works which the faithful were to be denied access to. The idea being that the clergy (Bishops and above) could read these works because they were incorruptible but lower classes were perceived as vulnerable and therefore in need of protection from thoughts and information. Owing to a 'Streisand effect', this list became a guide to the more thought provoking publications of the 17th and 18th centuries and, paradoxically, reading the list itself was then banned (!)

Outrageously illustrating my point about the class dynamics of censorship:

Markedly absent from the Index Librorum Prohibitorum was Adolf Hitler's book Mein Kampf. After gaining access to the Vatican Apostolic Archive church historian Hubert Wolf discovered that Mein Kampf had been studied for three years but the Holy Office decided that it should not go on the Index because the author was a head of state.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Index_Librorum_Prohibitorum#Holy_Office_(1917-1966)

The adoption of the Hayes Code (1934 to 1968) was mostly driven by two factors, 1) the patchwork of regional censors made it difficult to manage large film releases so the industry sought to self-censor as a pre-emptive measure, and more to my point 2) the adoption of sync sound in 1928 had changed the composition of audiences and made film more friendly to families and the semi-literate. Hays was far from the first list of forbidden elements. Looking at WW1 censorship codes is quite revealing. in 1916 the British Board of Film Censors clarified what had been a bit vague by detailing 42 specifically forbidden elements (bolding added, full list at link):

Indecorous, ambiguous and irreverent titles and subtitles
The irreverent treatment of sacred subjects
Drunken scenes carried to excess
The modus operandi of criminals
Unnecessary exhibition of under-clothing
The exhibition of profuse bleeding
Offensive vulgarity, and impropriety in conduct and dress
Indecorous dancing
Excessively passionate love scenes
Bathing scenes passing the limits of propriety
References to controversial politics
Relations of capital and labour

Scenes tending to disparage public characters and institutions
Realistic horrors of warfare
Scenes and incidents calculated to afford information to the enemy
Incidents having a tendency to disparage our Allies
Scenes holding up the King's uniform to contempt or ridicule
Subjects dealing with India, in which British Officers are seen in an odious light, and otherwise attempting to suggest the disloyalty of British Officers, Native States or bringing into disrepute British prestige in the Empire
The exploitation of tragic incidents of the war
Subjects dealing with White Slave traffic
Subjects dealing with premeditated seduction of girls
"First night" scenes
Scenes suggestive of immorality
Indelicate sexual situations
Situations accentuating delicate marital relations
Men and women in bed together
Illicit relationships
Prostitution and procuration
Incidents indicating the actual perpetration of criminal assaults on women
Scenes depicting the effect of venereal disease, inherited or acquired
Incidents suggestive of incestuous relations
Themes and references relative to 'race suicide'


And what is we are not allowed to read right now? Congress can see it and we can't.
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Censorship Almost Always Exempts the Rich and Powerful (Original Post) GreatGazoo 15 hrs ago OP
Every thing secret degenerates, even the administration of justice; Ping Tung 15 hrs ago #1
A great quote but censorship is not really about secrets as much as GreatGazoo 15 hrs ago #2
Interesting. Hugin 14 hrs ago #3

Ping Tung

(4,025 posts)
1. Every thing secret degenerates, even the administration of justice;
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 09:56 AM
15 hrs ago
Every thing secret degenerates, even the administration of justice; nothing is safe that does not show how it can bear discussion and publicity. Lord Acton

GreatGazoo

(4,311 posts)
2. A great quote but censorship is not really about secrets as much as
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 10:03 AM
15 hrs ago

it as about power. When I read the BBFC list, most of those things are not secrets -- nudity, drug use, miscegenation, horror of war.

Hugin

(37,143 posts)
3. Interesting.
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 10:16 AM
14 hrs ago

Thanks for the thought invoking OP.

One of the covers that is used often and most recently during the early stages of COVID is that they don’t want panic. Somehow the general public is too “hysterical” (a patronizing perjorative word) to handle, metabolize, and deal with certain truths. While the steely ruling class can evenhandedly and morally control the situation from on high. Always. This whole concept is anti-democratic and pure patriarchy.

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