Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
54 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
U.S. flag at ground at White House (Original Post) NameAlreadyTaken 12 hrs ago OP
Highly symbolic Walleye 12 hrs ago #1
You just know he wants to fly a Trump flag, gab13by13 12 hrs ago #2
Need more flagpoles. Norrrm 9 hrs ago #32
That the 88-foot Hitler flagpole Trump had installed, right? sop 12 hrs ago #3
Guess that says it all. Trump oblivious and/or not caring. Biophilic 12 hrs ago #4
Is that a Secret Service person in the background, gab13by13 12 hrs ago #5
Newsweek article usonian 12 hrs ago #6
OMG Beringia 12 hrs ago #10
And nobody... GiqueCee 11 hrs ago #13
Hail to the thief Hey Joe 7 hrs ago #53
another look bigtree 9 hrs ago #34
Looking like DEATH warmed over with a fake tan Trump. I mean...look at that fucker. Bengus81 9 hrs ago #36
ILL DUCE! Mme. Defarge 9 hrs ago #38
"ILL DOUCHE"! lastlib 8 hrs ago #45
Why didn't I think of that! Mme. Defarge 7 hrs ago #48
Looks as if there are two people by the flag haele 9 hrs ago #41
Yes, that is how he looks Beringia 7 hrs ago #50
Are several raised and lowered every day and then sold as Trump-branded merchandise? NT mahatmakanejeeves 12 hrs ago #7
No, but they're available for a $10,000 donation. WestMichRad 9 hrs ago #33
MAGA heads would be exploding if it were a Democrat in the presidential office right now..................... Lovie777 12 hrs ago #8
No, I don't think so... Conjuay 11 hrs ago #19
Handkerchief Bavorskoami 10 hrs ago #30
They had the sarcasm icon right in the post Maraya1969 8 hrs ago #46
He's gonna use it for an eye-catching rug in the new ballroom. tanyev 12 hrs ago #9
Hypocrisy/Incompetence, thy name is Trump ... marble falls 11 hrs ago #11
A clear violation of his recent EO: 'President Donald J. Trump Protects the American Flag from Desecration' sop 11 hrs ago #12
What a trip, I guess not a surprise for a psychopath Beringia 11 hrs ago #17
How symbolic democrank 11 hrs ago #14
There's an image for the ages. Paladin 11 hrs ago #15
Mission Accomplished Kid Berwyn 11 hrs ago #16
Really horrible. But, symbolic of his complete disrespect of his country. Joinfortmill 11 hrs ago #18
Mirrors our country right now. AllyCat 11 hrs ago #20
MAGATs love to dress themselves in the flag milestogo 11 hrs ago #21
If Trump tearing down 1/3 of the White House without permission or permits didn't travelingthrulife 9 hrs ago #35
As already posted up thread by a great DUer Botany 11 hrs ago #22
And if it touches the ground, it should be disposed of by... wait for it... Wednesdays 7 hrs ago #47
If Obama had done that? usregimechange 11 hrs ago #23
When I was a Girl Scout BumRushDaShow 10 hrs ago #24
Same here. We had to be very careful with the flag. efhmc 10 hrs ago #31
He molested it to death and walked away. NBachers 10 hrs ago #25
His eyes were closed... llmart 10 hrs ago #26
Hey Newsweak... llmart 10 hrs ago #27
Been going on for awhile. hay rick 10 hrs ago #28
THE AMERICAN DREAM IS DEAD czarjak 10 hrs ago #29
Does anybody besides me see the odd bulges in his pant legs at lower niyad 9 hrs ago #37
It's a urinary catheter collection bag Maru Kitteh 9 hrs ago #40
Thank you. I have only known people with colostomy bags , and they niyad 9 hrs ago #42
Urinary drainage bags can be fixed to the calf or thigh. (picture) Maru Kitteh 7 hrs ago #49
Thank you for this information. niyad 7 hrs ago #52
Leg bag (urinary collection) clearly visible on left leg Maru Kitteh 9 hrs ago #39
The Flag Epsteined itself. RedWhiteBlueIsRacist 9 hrs ago #43
This will be a defining image of the trump administration LetMyPeopleVote 9 hrs ago #44
One reason the interfere with Marine One and obstruct night time flight operations. Historic NY 7 hrs ago #51
Desecration Donny Blue Owl 5 hrs ago #54

Biophilic

(6,276 posts)
4. Guess that says it all. Trump oblivious and/or not caring.
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 07:27 AM
12 hrs ago

Is that real? I can’t believe no one at the White House didn’t catch that. But maybe that speaks volumes about our current White House.

Beringia

(5,288 posts)
10. OMG
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 07:51 AM
12 hrs ago

According to the U.S. flag code, the flag should never touch anything beneath it. That guidance, according to the Cornell Law School, reads: “The flag should never touch anything beneath it, such as the ground, the floor, water, or merchandise.”



On another note, I thought he would walk slumped over, but he walks tall

GiqueCee

(3,042 posts)
13. And nobody...
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 08:07 AM
11 hrs ago

... appears to be making any attempt to rescue the flag. That is telling, and it's telling us something really, really bad. Trump's contemptuous disregard for this unforgivable travesty should be a red flag the size of his asinine ballroom. He. Is. EVIL.

haele

(14,860 posts)
41. Looks as if there are two people by the flag
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 10:20 AM
9 hrs ago

Discussing what to do after the flag was already flopped on the ground.
Or maybe just one guy watching while the other gathers or balls it up like he's collecting dirty towels off a locker room floor.
A flag that large needs at least four to six people just to manage the flag as it comes down to keep it from touching the ground, not counting the person lowering it.

Lovie777

(21,145 posts)
8. MAGA heads would be exploding if it were a Democrat in the presidential office right now.....................
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 07:39 AM
12 hrs ago

the hypocrites are still in the building.

Conjuay

(2,794 posts)
19. No, I don't think so...
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 08:39 AM
11 hrs ago

If you are willing to wear the flag as an item of clothing- a shirt, the lining of a suit jacket, or a bikini-

you have no concept of flag etiquette.

Bavorskoami

(163 posts)
30. Handkerchief
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 09:47 AM
10 hrs ago

Pete Hegseth has often used an American flag handkerchief as a pocket square as well as the flag liner for his suit jackets.

marble falls

(69,398 posts)
11. Hypocrisy/Incompetence, thy name is Trump ...
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 08:01 AM
11 hrs ago
https://www.newsweek.com/american-flag-floor-white-house-donald-trump-11057234

Andrew Leyden, a journalist and former lawyer, wrote on X: “The @POTUS returned to the White House but the rotor wash from Marine One blew down the American flag on the new flagpole. UPDATE: Upon review of additional footage, it appears the flag was down before Marine One arrived. Not sure why.”

The White House has not publicly responded or explained what led to the flag being on the ground as of reporting.

sop

(16,901 posts)
12. A clear violation of his recent EO: 'President Donald J. Trump Protects the American Flag from Desecration'
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 08:04 AM
11 hrs ago

"COMBATING FLAG DESECRATION: Today, President Donald J. Trump signed an Executive Order to restore respect, pride, and sanctity to the American flag and prosecute those who desecrate this symbol of our freedom, identity, and strength to the fullest extent permissible."

https://www.whitehouse.gov/fact-sheets/2025/08/fact-sheet-president-donald-j-trump-protects-the-american-flag-from-desecration/

Lock him up!

Beringia

(5,288 posts)
17. What a trip, I guess not a surprise for a psychopath
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 08:23 AM
11 hrs ago

Trump's 2025 executive order
On August 25, 2025, President Trump signed an executive order to increase prosecutions for flag burning.

Vigorous prosecution: The order directs the Attorney General to "vigorously prosecute" those who violate existing laws in ways that involve desecrating the flag and to "clarify the scope of the First Amendment exceptions".
Immigration penalties: It also instructs relevant agencies to deny or revoke visas, residence permits, or other immigration benefits for non-citizens who desecrate the flag in a manner that allows for such remedies under federal law.
Intended limitations: Legal experts have noted that prosecutions could be brought only for actions connected to flag burning that are not protected by the First Amendment, such as arson, theft, or inciting "imminent lawless action".
Expected legal challenge: Free speech advocates and legal experts state that the order runs contrary to established First Amendment law and will likely face court challenges

Paladin

(32,034 posts)
15. There's an image for the ages.
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 08:18 AM
11 hrs ago

Hope people are still seeing it 100 years from now, and are still marveling at all the bullshit we put up with.

milestogo

(22,225 posts)
21. MAGATs love to dress themselves in the flag
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 08:43 AM
11 hrs ago

because they seem to think it makes them patriotic.

I think this photo will enrage a lot of people.

travelingthrulife

(3,831 posts)
35. If Trump tearing down 1/3 of the White House without permission or permits didn't
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 09:57 AM
9 hrs ago

affect them, neither will this.

Botany

(75,887 posts)
22. As already posted up thread by a great DUer
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 08:45 AM
11 hrs ago

Last edited Mon Nov 17, 2025, 12:39 PM - Edit history (1)

According to the U.S. flag code, the flag should never touch anything beneath it. That guidance, according to the Cornell Law School, reads: “The flag should never touch anything beneath it, such as the ground, the floor, water, or merchandise.”


@ sunset the flag should be taken down and folded properly and it should not touch the ground.

Wednesdays

(21,341 posts)
47. And if it touches the ground, it should be disposed of by... wait for it...
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 12:02 PM
7 hrs ago

by burning it.

BumRushDaShow

(163,412 posts)
24. When I was a Girl Scout
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 09:20 AM
10 hrs ago

they really emphasized the flag code and at overnight camp (mine was 2 weeks), the girls rotated in groups for who did the color guard/flag duty, the mess hall, campsite/latrine cleaning, etc.

There was a whole ritual every evening, when the flag at our camp was lowered (with "Taps" sung, but just the first verse) and the assigned group did the "triangle folding" of it to put it away for the evening.

IIRC, if the flag hits the ground, it is supposed to be disposed of (burned). The flag can fly 24/7 on a pole as long as it is lit at night. If there is no light on it at night, it is supposed to be lowered.

niyad

(128,562 posts)
37. Does anybody besides me see the odd bulges in his pant legs at lower
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 10:06 AM
9 hrs ago

calf level? I have never seen pants look like that.

Maru Kitteh

(31,023 posts)
40. It's a urinary catheter collection bag
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 10:17 AM
9 hrs ago

Called a leg bag. The shape is very clearly outlined under the pant leg.

niyad

(128,562 posts)
42. Thank you. I have only known people with colostomy bags , and they
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 10:21 AM
9 hrs ago

were not positioned on their calves.

Maru Kitteh

(31,023 posts)
49. Urinary drainage bags can be fixed to the calf or thigh. (picture)
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 12:19 PM
7 hrs ago



Or really anywhere you want to run a drainage tube to below the bladder level.

Maru Kitteh

(31,023 posts)
39. Leg bag (urinary collection) clearly visible on left leg
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 10:13 AM
9 hrs ago

Can’t wait for the day he blows that thing up or some aide neglects to get it closed all the way.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»U.S. flag at ground at Wh...