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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHonest Question. What if David Shuster is right?
David Shuster has been reporting the Epstein Files contain pictures of Trump with topless underaged girls. Another picture allegedly shows Trump with a stain in the front of his pants. This is just some of the information about Trump allegedly in the DOJ/FBI files.
If this is true. And it becomes public, what happens next? How does the country proceed? Is Trump impeached? Is he just a lame duck? What does MAGA and the GOP do? Do we wait until he leaves office to file charges? Etc. Etc. Etc.
And why is this topic only coming to light now! After Trump has already run for President 3 times!!!!
Oh, and Im nonpartisan. Clearly Trump and his crony justice department are trying to protect him. But If Merck Garland had this for years, why didnt he do anything? Where is his accountability to the country and the victims?
wcmagumba
(5,175 posts)electric_blue68
(24,954 posts)Or maybe even before, sonehow.
BannonsLiver
(20,109 posts)WarGamer
(18,125 posts)for making extremely derogatory comments about Hillary and Chelsea Clinton?
aaaaaa5a
(4,684 posts)A lot of inside info about what is really happening on Capitol Hill. To my knowledge, he was the first to report that the GOP would have a jail break on the Epstein files if the resolution passed.
UTUSN
(76,352 posts)from the Grand Jury (yeah-right), nightly assuring that KKKarl ROVE was going to be indicted any time soon. When the predicted apocalypse date got into the "imminently" range set by one Jason LEOPOLD from "Truthout" and passed by one and another day, LEOPOLD covered by something like a discrepancy between "calendar days or working days" but neither method of divination worked. And we had a Fitzmas of coals.
When it was over SHUSTER was pressed on how/who his "inside information" could be so wrong. He was burned and peevishly said his sources were (paraphrasing: ) "experts on grand juries, attorneys with extensive experience presenting cases to grand juries."
Get it? We lay people learned, got drilled, that grand juries don't spew "inside information." So SHUSTER's experts turned out to be attorneys without actual information, but rather acting as PUNDITS giving their opinions based on what was known outside the grand jury.
*** So, he's still pushing inside information, eh.
*** And just curious, answer not demanded: Is "non-partisan" literal or intended loosely as "impartial"?
aaaaaa5a
(4,684 posts)I of course side with the democratic view most often. Not because of party but because they are usually right. Impartial, in this case means I try to see both sides. I DO WONDER why this couldnt be released earlier, when Dems had control, and we could have ensured impartiality and fair play with regard to the Epstein files. I am worried about information being scrubbed or tampered.
I think those are fair questions. You?
UTUSN
(76,352 posts)D"emocratic view ... is usually (correct)."
mercuryblues
(16,020 posts)Much of this info has been out there. His voters don't give a shit. It.is. a. cult.
Trump will never leave the White house willingly, even if he is impeached. He will fight it all the way to the Supreme court. The way they rule in his favor, Epstein just may have tapes on a few of them.
IMO Trump has done a lot worse than what has been made public. Much of the info being released this past week comes from Epstein's brother.
Lifeafter70
(729 posts)Was on trial at the time. After her conviction and appeal ended, trump had already been elected.
In fact trump ran on releasing the files and tacoed out.
usonian
(22,509 posts)Outside the DOJ, "Defenders of Jeffrey".
Info is coming forward and there will be investigations, especially of money and money laundering. (Does the name Al Capone sound familiar?)
Giuffre's posthumously published book took down the Andrew formerly known as Prince. Others will step forward and initiate investigations (It's global)
The problem is not just Trump. It's worldwide oligarchs. Possibly heads of state, royalty, business tycoons, tech billionaires, legislators, and (ahem) judges.
That will disrupt a world of oligarchs. Be prepared to rebuild better.
I've estimated the impact in terms of players only
https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=20809929
a kennedy
(34,869 posts)MSNBCs David Shuster has been suspended in the wake of his suggestion on air Thursday that Sen. Hillary Clintons presidential campaign might have pimped out daughter Chelsea Clinton by having her call celebrities and super-delegates on her mothers behalf.
Mr. Shuster was guest-hosting Tucker when he made the remark.
Mr. Shuster apologized on MSNBCs Morning Joe and was scheduled to apologize again during the 6 p.m. hour Friday on the cable chanel.
A spokesman for MSNBC and NBC News issued a statement that the comment about Chelsea Clinton was irresponsible and inappropriate.
It said Mr. Shuster has been suspended from appearing on all NBC News broadcasts, other than to make his apology. He has also extended an apology to the Clinton family. NBC News takes these matters seriously, and offers our sincere regrets to the Clintons for the remarks.
Howard Wolfson, the communications director for Sen. Clintons campaign, said the remark is beneath contempt. It is the kind of thing that should never be said on a national news network.
https://www.tvweek.com/in-depth/2008/02/msnbc-suspends-shuster-over-ch/
Polybius
(21,185 posts)If it's a 17 year old topless girl from a 1985 pic, it won't matter much. If she's 13, he gets impeached and removed.
gab13by13
(30,693 posts)stopdiggin
(14,723 posts)really no matter what he has to say. (there are other, and better sources .. )
In regard to the rest of the post - topic is NOT 'just coming to light now'. There is a drumbeat now - but a lot of this was in the public sphere well back ... The country voted him into office knowing ... As far as public reaction and 'what happens next'. Also - "asked and answered" With that answer being, "not a whole stinking lot."
Silent Type
(12,022 posts)And it might help solidify Dem support in midterms. GOPers worried about losing might turn on trump like Nixon.
Then, again, maybe 55% of voters are just vile perverts and will applaud trump. Have often thought some GOPers calling for release are just hoping for photos.
Intractable
(1,397 posts)The pictures exist. Whether they are in the version of the "Epstein Files" that will be released is another matter.
aaaaaa5a
(4,684 posts)Scrivener7
(57,855 posts)because another email seems to show him telling Epstein how to leverage the information he has on Cankles, both in the event that he loses and in the event that he wins the 2016 election.
I get the squeamishness, but Wolf's defense is that this is how you get close to a subject. You have to interact on their level to open them up so you can get the full story. While I couldn't do it, he does seem to have gotten more on Epstein and Cankles than any of the journalists going about it the traditional way.
Orrex
(66,408 posts)Except that he'll remain in office until he dies.
He could release live, current-day footage of himself violating children, and MAGA fuckheads would continue to worship him, the GOP would continue to protect him, and the media would continue to sane-wash him.