Funny how my daughter doesn't still have a gash in her ear from her cartilage year when she was 4. My recollection is that it took 1-2 weeks to heal.

And I'm sure the injured and dead people were in on the staging.

about the healing capacity of a four year old child compared to an almost 80 year old.

that ear cartilage does not heal. That is nonsense.

Rather than referring to all cartilage in all ears of all ages under all conditions. Nothing is served in open discussion by hyper-focusing on minute literalism.

A better comparison than your daughter would be the very healthy Evander Holyfield, whose ear hasn't grown back after 27 years, versus the sedentary cheeseburger addict whose ear grew back without a scar in under a week.

Had the post I responded to said growing back, I wouldn't have said anything (on that point, at least).

We aren't salamanders. We don't grow back body parts (aside from the liver). Not my daughter. Not Evander Holyfield. Not Trump.

But that wasn't the claim. It was that cartilage does not heal.

None of us has examined his ear up close, nor do we have a report as to the extent of the original damage. A minor cartilage tear does not take that long to heal. There is probably a scar - but from how quickly it healed, it is safe to assume the damage was much less than Trump wanted us to believe. I doubt the scar would be visible from a distance - my daughter's certainly isn't.

But to suggest that it was all a fake is as insensitive to those killed it injured as it was when the Republicans suggested Sandy Hook was all crisis actors.

Whether it was a bullet graze, or debris kicked up by the bullet - no opinion. Bullets and debris were flying - and either one could have caused a superficial wound (including tearing the cartilage), with the bleeding we saw.

There was a gunman. The folks injured and killed by the bullets from that gunman were actually injured and killed.

Even given Trump's continuous lies, it is a step into conspiracy-land to suggest that real people were injured and killed so he could pop a blood capsule and pretend to be hit.

Because he wasn't shot. That bullet whizzed by him. He gave an interview a couple of days later and his ear was fine. No injury. No discoloration, no bruising . Nothing. Medical science says that adult cartilage does not have a natural ability to heal or regenerate on its own. End of story. Military doctors are good but not that damn good.

because it lacks a blood supply. Two fucking days later there was not one fucking mark on his pristine ear.
Medical science.

The people who were shot were not sitting behind Trump, however. They were sitting in stands to the left and right of the stage. The guy who was killed was to Trump’s right front — closest to, and with his back towards the shooter. The other two were to Trump’s left.

Exactly what happened with respect to the dead guy? Not really dead? Dead but not really shot? Really shot and really dead but by someone else? Really shot and really dead and by the purported shooter but for some reason other than mere accident/collateral damage? What's the deal?

anyone who claims that it was an assassination attempt should be able to back up that claim with medical records, including photos and statements from the medical staff.

Medical records are protected. Explain the dead man.

Gosh, I wonder why he's not doing that.

A lot of people have died because of Trump. This is just another one.

My personal unsupported opinion is that the casualties were inflicted to demonstrate that this was a "real" assassination attempt.

Then-President Biden stated that no matter how many records of his neurological tests he might release, there would always be a cabal of critics clamoring for more records of a higher detailed nature, and also questioning why more tests were not conducted. President Biden wisely indicated that he was not going to feed the trolls.

Killing a bystander would make a fake assassination attempt more credible. You could shut down any speculation just by saying "oh yeah? Explain the dead guy!"

They set him up to make a credible villain. Obviously, they planned to take him out so he couldn’t screw up the story.

as to how they got him I don't even care . Might want to check his families bank account. Just for shits and giggles. Personally I think if Trump had been wounded he would have sold videos of his medical care and how much he suffered and overcame his injuries. He would have awarded himself a purple heart.

He killed that man accidentally, and, probably as planned, they shot the shooter. Problem solved.

Funny how we never hear word one about the victim or the shooter.

Do you believe the man in the stands who died was a crisis actor?

Was the shooter not killed?

Two people died and another was wounded in order to “stage” an assassination attempt to give Trump a boost in the polls?

The gullibility and lack of critical thinking sometimes astounds me - I’m sure this will get 100+ recs, like most CT’s do here.

Was just Trump’s shooting staged, or were the other three casualties that day also staged?

If the others weren’t staged, then that means whoever planned the staged shooting of Trump knew that, except for Trump’s fake shooting the area would become a live fire zone, and didn’t care who was hurt or killed.

And that the 5/10/20 people involved with the plot knew of these potential consequences, were OK with it, and everyone involved maintained complete secrecy

This from the same crew that communicates war plans via non-secure phone apps.

Last but not least, was Trump in on the plan?

Do you see how ridiculous that sounds?

That is really really ludicrous, kooky, BSC etc. but yet, I’ve seen it done.

I merely said it was odd that people were not ducking for cover when bullets were flying!!

The tweet you reposted specifically, directly asks the question “on a scale of 1-10, how many of you think this was staged?” Why post that if you don’t believe it? Why not post a YouTube video of the raw footage without the CT nonsense?

Even if you don’t believe the shooting was staged, clearly many of the respondents to your OP do, and they have used your OP to spread their CT nonsense.

The lack of a shared reality in this post-truth era is as dangerous to democracy as any of Trump’s atrocities (see the quote in my signature line).

how his ear miraculously healed! Completely! With no scarring! No chunk taken out, no scalp damage!

It was a bogus photo op.

For one, his ear damage was superficial and may not have involved ear cartilage at all (the ear is not all cartilage, especially the ear lobe).

Are you familiar with the term "frozen with fear". Things happened very quickly - sudden shock sometimes takes a while to dissipate.

Do you think something "staged" would actually involve firing a bullet v close to Trump's head and with spectators in the background likely to be hit?

And did someone in on the plot then shoot the shooter, all w/o being detected?

The first thing to keep in mind about conspiracy theories is that they are almost always wrong...

However, on the question of whether Thomas Crooks was a 'prophet',
I give him a "10" !

He has a Doris Day hairdo. That's strange too.

What a combo!

The simpler explanation to me would be they were in shock or hadn't realised what was happening yet.

….um…JFK……..

But if people don’t think he’s capable of something like what the op is talking about then they are out of their minds.

…right up and give his raised fist salute. Once they’d put him down on the ground, wouldn’t they want to keep him there while assessing what was going on?

The incision bleeds like hell but heals up pretty quickly. If the victim happens to be on some type of blood thinner the bleeding would be even more profuse initially. I actually have a flattened area above my right ear where the skin and meager tissue was cut out but the cartilage was not removed. They just tightened everything up around the cartilage and sewed it up.

In the video. Trump did make a swat at his ear prior to being tackled. I don't think that was staged as his reaction times are not that good to have been scripted. Hell, the dumbass would probably have grabbed the wrong ear if it was staged.