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LetMyPeopleVote

(172,793 posts)
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 05:34 PM Sunday

Dershowitz is defending Epstein and claiming that Epstein was not a pedophile

Dershowitz has no credibility left.


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PJMcK

(24,429 posts)
2. Doesn't Dershowitz have a face that needs to be punched?
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 05:39 PM
Sunday

Such a loser. He defended O.J. Simpson, Trump and now Epstein.

What an embarrassing ass who is clearly on the wrong side of the law. He’s probably guilty of some crimes, too, but his ego is so big he has to go on TV to deny what is obvious.

Pathetic.

To think that he was a brilliant lawyer and educator is not evidence by his behavior over the last 30 years.

Such a terrible person.

mr715

(2,296 posts)
3. Dershowitz has lacked credibility for a while
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 05:40 PM
Sunday

The image of him in his underwear getting a massage haunts my nightmares.

RockRaven

(18,427 posts)
5. People who argue that a pedo isn't a pedo should be treated by the public as if
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 05:48 PM
Sunday

they are a pedo themselves. Being dishonest about pedos while hiding behind pedantry is gross and suspicious as hell. Society would be better off shunning those people alongside their precious pedos.

lapfog_1

(31,431 posts)
6. sooo... society has drawn a line...
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 05:52 PM
Sunday

Most U.S. states have an age of consent of 18, with the exceptions of Alabama, Mississippi, Nebraska, and Puerto Rico. Therefore, for the vast majority of states, the age of consent for sexual activity is 18.

Having sex ( if you are older ) with someone who is 17 and 364 days old is rape, pure and simple.

There are cases where the age difference comes into play... like a couple that both were under 18 and having sex and then one of the two partners turns 18 and someone ( usually one of the parents ) wants to put a stop to the relationship so they try to have the now over 18 partner arrested and charged.

I had a similar situation... my niece was socially awkward and, because of shuffling back and forth between Canada and the USA was two grades behind her fellow students. She turned 19 while still a senior in high school. She wanted to date ( and have sex with ) another senior who was 17 at the time... and I told her no. She could date him but not engage in any sexual activity until he turned 18. I told her she could kiss him goodnight but nothing else. Fortunately she listened to me and nothing happened ( his parents did not want her dating him ).

But we have drawn a clear line at 18, even if mentally and emotionally, many are ready to make such decisions before turning 18 and many more are NOT ready to make such decisions until after 18 ( sometimes long after ). We don't all mature at the same rate. But there has to be a line, and 18 is it. This isn't the end of the world for anyone to wait until they are older... anyone but a pedophile.

mackdaddy

(1,910 posts)
8. It looks like many more states have age of consent at 16 or 17.
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 07:00 PM
Sunday

Florida and New York are both 18 though.

I saw an interview with Dershowitz once and he said he thought age of consent should be lowered to 14.
He also said he got a massage once at an Epstein residence but kept his underwear on.
Dershowitz was one of the Epstein lawyers who got him the 'sweetheart' deal in 08.
Virginia Roberts also accused him but she had to recant when he sued and won in court. That lawsuit is one of the reasons the victims have been reluctant to name their powerful abusers.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent_in_the_United_States

Celerity

(53,106 posts)
10. De rec for misinformation. Do you even fact check your claims before you post?
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 07:32 PM
Sunday

You said:

Most U.S. states have an age of consent of 18, with the exceptions of Alabama, Mississippi, Nebraska, and Puerto Rico. Therefore, for the vast majority of states, the age of consent for sexual activity is 18.

False. In the majority of states the age of consent is 16 or 17. In Canada it is 16, it was 14 until mid 2008. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_consent_in_North_America

You said:
Having sex ( if you are older ) with someone who is 17 and 364 days old is rape, pure and simple.

False in the majority of states and Canada.

You said:
But we have drawn a clear line at 18....

snip

But there has to be a line, and 18 is it

False, as shown above.

Cha

(315,878 posts)
7. So Dersh is on the List? Yeah That's why Epstein
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 05:55 PM
Sunday

either committed suicide or it was done for him in prison.

ColoringFool

(100 posts)
9. Quite The Disdain For The Law By A Lawyer. Dersh Knows....
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 07:18 PM
Sunday

full well how every word counts to the law, and "seventeen years and ten months" is not the legal definition of "adult" in the pertinent jurisdictions.

Mention of other states that differ is completely and utterly irrelevant.

Moreover, I think we all can agree that legal-age adults can be rape victims.

Polybius

(21,185 posts)
12. Having sex with a 17 year old definitely doesn't make him a pedophile
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 09:33 PM
Sunday

But his girls were way younger than that, so that makes him one.

Johonny

(25,086 posts)
14. Much like Ken Starr, no GOP talking head lawyer
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 10:08 PM
Sunday

Can sink low enough that the media will stop putting him on the air...

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