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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBeating Cuomo in NYC Is NOT a Progressive Landslide.
It is merely common sense. Mamdani will be the Mayor of NYC, nothing more than that. It is not a harbinger of anything nationwide.
We must win every election - One election at a time.
JI7
(92,980 posts)particular city or state.
MineralMan
(150,334 posts)Always.
edhopper
(36,868 posts)Would have won here. Mondami is talented and organized well.
MineralMan
(150,334 posts)Exactly.
H2O Man
(78,282 posts)MichMan
(16,302 posts)cheaper groceries, I expect to see candidates all over the country following Mamdani's lead.
There will be people who think that all that Mamdani clones around the country have to do is snap their fingers and it will be so. The everything-is-free-in Europe crowd does not take contradiction lightly.
womanofthehills
(10,616 posts)New Mexico also has free childcare & free college. Thanks to our great Gov. If SNAP didnt go through, she was going to pick up the tab.
NM has more money now because of the Permian Basin.
maxsolomon
(37,841 posts)People would LIKE those things. America will conspire to prevent NYC voters from realizing any of them.
MichMan
(16,302 posts)mr715
(2,295 posts)I agree that is was not a "progressive landslide". I think had Mamdani performed better, and had Sliwa pulled more from Cuomo rather than bleeding support to him, it would've been a landslide election that would translate to what you mean by a more generalized progressive landslide.
Where I disagree, and I'm even sure if we do disagree, is that Mamdani's victory elucidated a manner of campaigning that is fresh and might be conducive to winning elsewhere. He showed that social justice populism is a strong foundation.
Additionally - and I think this is a point that hasn't really been discussed, Mamdani ran very much a New York City focused campaign. Significantly more than any mayor in my lifetime except Giuliani (from a darker perspective, i.e. New York is full of these bad things and I'm going to fix them!). In effect, he ran a "NYC First" campaign, and you are right that politics is local. In this sort of NY-pride sort of way, I think Mamdani shared some tactics with Trump's MAGA.
Mamdani won an election that he, conceivably, could have lost. His win is data we should analyze and use moving forward.
Also, he has forced Gov. Hochul to rethink her frustrating centrism, which will probably bode well for her as well.
Tbear
(655 posts)Then I realized I was really laughing at NY city politics in general. Even though I dont know much about it.
msongs
(72,853 posts)Tough choice, I know
lame54
(38,950 posts)Blasphemer
(3,539 posts)Katie Wilson in Seattle is also evidence. I say this as someone who has been critical of the modern progressive moment. Trump's policies are so egregious (and the early Democratic response so underwhelming) that progressive have a real opportunity to gain some traction and they seem to be seizing it.
thought crime
(1,013 posts)We need highly disciplined candidates who keep a laser focus on economic and practical improvements. Happy warriors who offer concrete action-oriented plans to help everyday people. A good issue to focus on almost everywhere is housing. Mamdani's idea on public grocery stores could sell in many cities and suburbs, but the main thing is to offer ideas that solve real problems in peoples lives.
SocialDemocrat61
(6,471 posts)Mamdani, Sherrill and Spanberger all interacted with voters and addressed their concerns. It's not good enough just to run against Trump. That is only so effective.
In the case of Mamdani, there is a lesson for the extreme left who either stayed home last year or voted third party. He never ran against the Democratic Party. He never made a purity test over endorsements. Too many of them pushed that kind of crap. Some even went so far as to make the BS claim that "establishment Dems" had endorsed Cuomo. Or attacking people who don't live in NYC and had never endorsed a candidate for Mayor before, like Pete Buttigieg and others, for not endorsing Mamdani. Mamdani himself never did this stuff but many of his supporters did and are still doing so.
Mamdani showed that real progressives can succeed in the Democratic Party by working within it, not by trying to tear it down.
Rob H.
(5,750 posts)Fmr. President Bill Clinton endorsed Cuomo's candidacy back in June and urged people to vote for him for mayor.
Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, who does live in NYC (Brooklyn) and has previously endorsed mayoral candidates, when asked if he would endorse Mamdani, literally turned and walked away rather than answer the question. Schumer was also later asked whether he supported the Democratic nominee for mayor and responded, "Look, I voted, and I look forward to working with the next mayor to help New York City.
Schumer endorsed Shawn Ryan in his race for mayor of Buffalo, NY, this year, and in 2021 endorsed socialist candidate India Walton for the same office. His subsequent reluctance to throw his support behind Mamdani is curious, to say the very least; even Hakeem Jeffries ultimately endorsed Mamdani.
Mamdani showed that real progressives can succeed in the Democratic Party whether the party supports them or not.
SocialDemocrat61
(6,471 posts)Clinton endorsed Cuomo in the primary and made no endorsement in the general.
True about Schumer and that is a fair criticism. But my post specifically referred to Pete Buttigieg and others which you edited out.
Mamdani got plenty of support from democrats, specifically:
Others: U.S. Sens. Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders and Chris Van Hollen, Reps. Pramila Jayapal, Ro Khanna and Jamie Raskin, former Rep. Jamaal Bowman, former Mayor Bill de Blasio, former U.S. Democratic presidential nominee Kamala Harris, New York City Department of Transportation Commissioner Ydanis Rodriguez
https://www.cityandstateny.com/politics/2025/11/endorsements-2025-nyc-mayoral-general-election/406718/
As well as DNC chair Ken Martin.
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/democratic-national-committee-zohran-mamdani-endorsement-nyc-mayor-rcna237025
Mamdani didnt run against the party, he embraced it and got plenty of support from the party in return.
Rob H.
(5,750 posts)You didn't make that distinction in the post to which I was responding. You said:
Again, as I very clearly said, Fmr. President Clinton endorsed his candidacy. That Cuomo went on to defeat in the primary doesn't matter; Clinton initially threw his weight behind him because he obviously wanted to help him win the primary and then the general. Otherwise, why endorse him?
You're correct about the Democrats who endorsed Mamdani, but Schumer, the Senate Minority Leader, couldn't be arsed to endorse Mamdani even though he'd endorsed other mayoral candidates before, even a socialist. Schumer's a heavy hitter whose withheld endorsement could've made the difference between victory and defeat if Mamdani hadn't been far enough ahead in the polls that he didn't actually need Schumer's endorsement.
SocialDemocrat61
(6,471 posts)Okay. Fair enough. I was referring to the general since the op was about the general. I apologize for not being more specific.
But to be fair to Clinton he didnt endorse Cuomo once Mamdani won the primary and became the nominee. Again here is a list of endorsements for the general: https://www.cityandstateny.com/politics/2025/11/endorsements-2025-nyc-mayoral-general-election/406718/
Yes and Schumer deserves criticism for it. But Schumer is not the whole party. Criticize him, not the entire party. Stop using the actions of one person to demonize an entire party. And stop dragging others like Pete Buttigieg or others into it because one person didnt endorse Mamdani.
As a lifelong New Yorker, we dont vote based on endorsements. We think for ourselves. Plus, Ive never seen an election where so many people were concerned about endorsements.
Prairie Gates
(6,841 posts)Adams was a Democrat in name, but generally forwarded a cop-talk right wing program. He had a few progressive policies, I suppose, but was generally a corrupt flack for the business class. Bloomberg would have probably been a centrist Dem anywhere else, but he was ultimately a GOPer; his policies favored the rich and played a large part in transforming NYC into an unaffordable playground for the wealthy and tourists. He has largely been let off the hook for this, but the "Rent is too Damn High" guy actually did have Bloomberg's number and was speaking truth, even though he was roundly mocked by both the media and (unfortunately) conventional centrist Democrats.
I understand what you're saying, and I mostly agree, but the idea that NYC is some obvious place for a guy like Mamdani to be elected mayor is really to demonstrate a bit of ignorance of New York politics. This is a big deal. Maybe not nationally - who knows. But maybe it is an indicator nationally as well.
SocialDemocrat61
(6,471 posts)Within a few months of becoming Mayor, every problem that Koch had ignored for over a decade, suddenly became all Dinkins fault.
themaguffin
(4,859 posts)Yes, there are can be trends that may apply beyond that city, but the coverage really pissed me off as it's just not applicable mostly.
Demsrule86
(71,452 posts)Cuomo despite his issues came from a political dynasty. So, yeah I consider it a landslide of sorts. It was an amazing victory...call it what you will. MM, we had our go and some was good and some bad. Clearly, it is bad now and we need to try something different. Time for next generation to fix' things. The times they are a changing.
lapucelle
(20,878 posts)BlueTsunami2018
(4,769 posts)Other than the ruling class hating it and pushing the it can never work propaganda.
People are sick of the same old, same old moderate bullshit. People want real change, they want healthcare, they want education, they want food security and living wages. People are sick of the capitalists taking more and more and leaving them with nothing. No services, the inability to afford anything, working their asses off and still falling behind.
We need people like Memdani. We need even more than that. We have to break the status quo. We have to end this bullshit system that rewards greed and selfishness above community and the common good.
We have to try, otherwise itll never get better.
bucolic_frolic
(53,279 posts)This movement will ripple. I think city and town voters across the nation have little local interest in higher taxes, rising inflation, police thuggery, and a national security state that oppresses them. So these elections could ripple, but at the national level progressivism at least in 1900-1920, was a bit weak.