A good percentage of trump supporters are QAnon idiots and Epstein is a big deal to these nutcases.

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There is a split. And it does not have to be large to effect the outcome of elections.

Conservative Candace Owens podcast was number one in the world this week - she overtook Rogan.

In the past, she wanted Trump to pick her as his VP and now she hates his guts. She told her tens of millions of listeners, she apologizes for telling them to vote for Trump.

The divide is on America First - anti genocide- no tax dollars for foreign wars, plus release Epstein stuff which is getting more interesting with the release of Epstein emails linking him to Israeli intelligence.

Group one - against Trump’s policies

Candace, Tucker, MTG, Gaetz, Alex Jones, Fuentes, Dave Smith, Thomas Massie, Rand Paul, Ian Carroll, etc

Group two - with Trump
Rubio, Josh Hawley, Randy Fine, Ted Cruz, Mark Levin, Laura Loomer, Lindsay Graham, Ron de Santos, etc

Megan Kelley is playing in the middle as is Bannon - although both came out against Israel’s bombings.

Over on X - I see most Republicans liking Group one - saying Trump
has not fulfilled one promise he made. Lots of Republican I’ m sorry I voted for him posts.

But that's true about most issues

The Epstein file albatross.
Inflation
Affordability
Endless wars




Those are four points where he is failing.

There has been years of hero worship from this group, but there is clear peeling off happening at the margins if you watch. He's a lame duck, and this is going to continue to erode. That's a big part of why he keeps mentioning 2028. He wants to keep his base on the hook as long as he can.

If they can push him out before the next elections and put in Vance, that moves Maga mike into the VP slot. These are the Christian nationalists and they are itching to take over.

They know that Trump is done.

Folks like Frank Schaeffer think that a Vance regime will make us all wish Trump were still around.

If Trump is impeached and convicted, it's true that Vance becomes President. However, Mike Johnson doesn't automatically become VP. Vance selects someone (could be anyone, so long as they are 35 and natural born), and that person has to be confirmed by the House and Senate.

That's even scarier.

What would happen if an elevated VP, who had appointed a new VP were to die. Would the Speaker then be elevated to President?

See: Gerald Ford, the only president who was not elected.

Nixon's VP, Spiro Agnew resigned due to scandal. Ford was nominated by Nixon and approved by Congress and became the VP. When Nixon resigned because of Watergate, Ford became President.

I believe that no VP who rose to be President because the Pres was forced out or assasinated has been re-elected to be Pres. The only VP who stepped up after gaining the Presidency was Truman, who became Pres in 45 when FDR died, and then was elected to another term in 48.

I am saying if the elevated VP (Pres) selected a VP, but that VP were not confirmed by Congress.

The Speaker would only become president if both the Pres and the VP were killed/disabled at the same time.

In that case, Johnson becomes President. Next in line is the President Pro Tempore, which is Chuck Grassley.

When Nixon resigned it was VP Gerald Ford, not the Speaker of the House, who became President.

The poster asked what would happen if both Trump and Vance were unable to serve. In that case, it's Johnson.

for the 24 election. Further Trump's 'favorability' ratings have never been significantly higher than the 37% the OP lists. How real is the Trump/MAGA split - is almost entirely dependent on how one defines MAGA. The actual 'cult' numbers have always been fairly low. The number of people that went out and voted for Trump on the other hand ... And those two are quite obviously NOT the same thing.

(and nor is Q-Anon)

There is overlap to be sure, but I look for Trump himself and other new maga to start painting the old coalition as a bunch of slightly simple to outright nutz group of cranks, women, and others suspected of being a little soft in the head.

Old maga is Q-anon, low-information, poorly educated. Some were veterans of the Tea Party, some were dittohead types but mostly they were the great unwashed masses. They can name Kardashians and quarterbacks and ™Real Housewives but not a single Speaker of the House or the three branches of government.

New maga is basically the coalition of bros. Tech bros, manosphere bros, crypto bros, incel bros, etc. If you are part of a group that is nearly exclusively white and male (younger is better but rich will do) new maga is here to help you swing your dick like the boss you were entitled to be at your birth.

Old maga is still being dragged along though.