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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSen. Chris Murphy (D-CT) says the not-so-quiet part out loud. Really f*cking LOUD.
With a vote on releasing files related to Jeffrey Epstein just days away, Sen. Chris Murphy (D-CT) said this weekend that it was clear President Donald Trump was at the center of a child sex ring, and that the presidents behavior over the past week made it clear that the files contained something especially and specifically incriminating.
What we've already seen is immensely incriminating; clearly, Donald Trump was at the center of a child sex ring, Murphy said, speaking over the weekend with The Bulwark Managing Editor Sam Stein during a panel. That is heartbreaking that the president of the United States was involved in that kind of gross, craven immorality.
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He is in daily panic mode as we get closer to the moment where these files and the fullest truth that we have available to us is going to be made public, and it is clearly the biggest scandal in presidential history, Murphy said.
...It stands to reason that he wouldn't be fighting so hard to spin against this story, or bullying Republicans in the House to prevent the release of these files if there wasn't something especially and specifically incriminating in that information.
leftstreet
(38,346 posts)MarineCombatEngineer
(16,894 posts)KS Toronado
(22,116 posts)Wonder if he'll have a heart attack with the walls closing in? Or does his big genius brain believe he can
come out on top of everything so nothing bothers him?
Everybody is saying he should have one. Make Pedophiles Great Again!
DBoon
(24,521 posts)a heart attack is not invariably death by natural causes
Farmer-Rick
(12,295 posts)And asbestos exposure. Pedo Trump was exposed to asbestos when he tore down the east wing. He's probably still being exposed to it since no remediation was done. That asbestos is still floating around in the AC and heating units of the White House.
Normally it only floats around for about 72 hours but any slight breeze will have it floating around again. Every breath he takes his exposure levels go up.
70sEraVet
(5,119 posts)That show that asbestos exposure improves the libido!
buzzycrumbhunger
(1,479 posts)The BIG one. Hes already had precursors.
Fingers crossedthough it would be nice if theyd simply impeach him and include his whole cabal in the punishment.
dalton99a
(91,203 posts)
Pachamama
(17,528 posts)Miles Archer
(20,880 posts)Pachamama
(17,528 posts)Justice matters.
(9,114 posts)OP deserving for reaching the Greatest.
The Guardians Of Pedophiles will be destroyed as Lindsey Graham predicted, and they will deserve it.
vapor2
(3,441 posts)SheltieLover
(75,099 posts)sop
(16,901 posts)Trump was at the center of a child sex ring, the files contain something especially and specifically incriminating," the president was involved in "gross, craven immorality," it is "the biggest scandal in presidential history."
Miles Archer
(20,880 posts)Sure, like everything else in his life, he COULD get away with it.
Until he doesn't, right?
Justice matters.
(9,114 posts)The butcher of Jamal Khashoggi will be in the OO Tuesday with his bribes.
Traildogbob
(12,171 posts)That is exactly where they will feel at home. One wrong word in Russia and they will fly out windows or drink plutonium. Ole Pootie is as loyal as Trump.
Plus pootie may be going broke and Saudis eat cash like a salad.
Not so sure the population would be so welcoming of American Politicians. The 9/11 Saudis were just common citizens. They may wanna do some sawing themselves on those refugee American political leaders, that approve and send troops to carry out their orders of slaughtering Muslims, women and children.
Hopefully every nation will seal their porters to keep this scum out of their society.
Let em roam the dessert for 40+years. And eat their own cash to live.
Just an opinion of one.
buzzycrumbhunger
(1,479 posts)Hes already paid off Argentina for the big escape.
lastlib
(27,148 posts)Visualize a big circle, with the words "Child Sex Ring" around the circumference, and the visage of the #1 Felon/Rapist in the center of it.
"At the center of a child sex ring." Who doesn't believe it now? He is calling it a hoax, which is all the more reason to believe it's true.
PatSeg
(51,498 posts)He has let so many scandals just roll off his back, but this one is really scaring him. It could be even worse than we are imagining.
NJCher
(42,001 posts)He flim flammed his way into the WH. When he's out of the presidency, those suits will be resumed. I am talking about suits like Jack Smith's.
PatSeg
(51,498 posts)And I really think his third run for the presidency was primarily to avoid prison. Meanwhile, he's found numerous ways to enrich himself in the process.
I really have my doubts that he will live long enough to see those suits resumed, though there are plenty of others in his administration who are vulnerable and should make sure their passports are up to date.
Grins
(9,107 posts)Part of a sex trafficking ring doesnt get to who this monster really is!!
jaymac
(123 posts)was 13 when she says trump raped her because she looked like Ivanka............whatever became of that suit?
Upthevibe
(9,866 posts)I saw him on CSPAN at a gathering/town hall. He was speaking truth to power for sure.
I've been saying for a while now that I can see Chris Murphy as a Presidential Candidate.
Clouds Passing
(6,543 posts)Bluetus
(1,930 posts)Sex was just the bait, and Trump has no shame about any sex. Sex with prostitutes. Sex with women he raped. Sex with his own daughter. He has no shame about any of that. That is NOT why he is panicked.
He is panicked because if we can get to the heart of this Epstein/Maxwell/Trump partnership, it will connect all the big dots for which we have already seen plenty of anecdotal evidence. Massive money laundering. Extortion. Selling of classified information. Working directly for our enemies. Having his businesses funded by the Russians. All these things come together with Epstein.
I can only hope that Murphy is not so naive as to think this is just about sex with some underage girls (which would be a huge scandal and tragedy for anybody else). I hope that Murphy has much more awareness of the full picture, but doesn't want to get ahead of his skis. I mean, Murphy should have a good idea of the extent of the FBI files, and should know that the bigger picture will be obvious if we can get the files in public.
Raven123
(7,325 posts)Both are true, but go with what will exert the most pressure.
Bluetus
(1,930 posts)I mean, the people who can bring him down are all the backstabbers he has surrounded himself with. The MAGA people just give him the appearance of power. Theil/Vance, Musk, Bannon/Miller, MTG and many others are all trying to get positioned for his fall. It is the curse of the tyrant. Everybody you depend on hates you, but fears you. When the moment comes, the knives will come out. That is what Trump is panicked about.
llmart
(17,095 posts)those of us old enough to remember know that. But the public is more likely to dismiss something as "complicated" as his money schemes. But give them something salacious and sex/drug/trafficking of young girls will get the public talking around the water cooler on a daily basis, and the complicit legacy media will be forced to air it all or get left in the dust.
Bluetus
(1,930 posts)It is his "friends" who will do him in. They are only hanging around now because it is profitable for them and they want to be there when he falls to keep the spoils coming.
They all hate him, with the possible exception of Miller. He may be the only one in that entire cabal who is not in it for the money. He is a Nazi through and through. His interest in money is like Hitler's: to fund the dream. The rest of them are just grifters of the highest order.
llmart
(17,095 posts)If they think they stand to lose their cushy jobs in Congress, they'll throw Trump under the bus. Starting with MTG, they're getting out in front of the truth that's about to explode in the public forum.
Escape
(331 posts)They surely must hate him and hate having to serve him.
This is their big chance to escape from Trump Island.
Hope they flee quickly and en masse.
Bluetus
(1,930 posts)If it is only the 4 Republicans who signed the discharge petition, then Trump likely survives to 2028 and the files will never come out.
If 50 or more Republicans vote for release, then things could move quickly. You know they are all comparing notes like high school girls talking about prom dates. "Are you voting for release? I will if you will."
A number like 50 might be enough to get the Senate on board. It would certainly pump up the pressure.
A number closer to 100 could make it almost impossible for Trump to veto it. He would probably flip to saying, "Of course we're releasing the files. Just as soon as we have a blue ribbon commission go over every document to make sure we are redacting every detail that could hurt anybody (especially me)."
Personally, I think it is most likely that it will be just the 4 (Massie, Greene, Mace, Boebert). I hope I am way off. The Trump from a year ago wouldn't have lost those 4, but certainly would not lose any more than 4. So this will be an excellent gauge of Trump's hold on the GOP.
travelingthrulife
(3,831 posts)jaymac
(123 posts)OneGrassRoot
(23,918 posts)BattleRow
(2,030 posts)to an acquaintance of mine.
But you said it far more eloquently.
Bluetus
(1,930 posts)Because, at this point, the big thing is to get the files into public, not to connect all the dots for the people.
Paladin
(32,034 posts)AllaN01Bear
(28,048 posts)Wicked Blue
(8,376 posts)PatrickforB
(15,300 posts)a moral compass to speak of.
Maybe the release of these files can bring a bunch of disgusting pedophiles. Because of the King Charles can strip his brother of all title and so on over his involvement, then we need to clean house here. For sure.
OldBaldy1701E
(9,550 posts)MuirHero
(65 posts)Sen. Chris Murphy should become our next Senate Majority Leader when the Democrats take back control of the senate.
CTyankee
(67,586 posts)CousinIT
(12,039 posts)Starts talking about Epstein around 9:33.
Link to a site I never heard of supposedly detailing his comments in this interview: https://dnyuz.com/2025/11/16/could-bring-him-down-senator-says-trump-was-clearly-at-center-of-child-sex-ring/
(I've never heard of DNYUZ - the name of the site)
DallasNE
(7,924 posts)Therefore, he probably is guilty.
Chasstev365
(6,743 posts)yellow dahlia
(4,027 posts)NJCher
(42,001 posts)I'm confused about Giuffre saying he always acted like a perfect gentleman, yet this post of Epstein's says trump spent 2 hours with (presumably) Giuffre. The only explanation can be that when she said he was a gentleman was before she spent the time at Epstein's house with trump.
Epstein email about her spending several hours at Epstein's house with Trump:
Link to email.
That email was sent to Maxwell by Epstein on 4/2/2011
When she said Trump always behaved like a gentleman would have been when? I did a search for the date but so far haven't come up with it.
FakeNoose
(39,507 posts)On the other hand, we don't know if there was another girl named Virginia? Of perhaps Epstein was mistaken on the identity of the girl that Chump was with? I can't explain it. But in Virginia's own words, she said she never saw Chump on the Lolita Express plane nor at Epstein's home(s).
If Virginia Roberts Giuffre had been abused or raped by Chump, she would have said something about it. She had no reason to protect him. Until we hear differently from G. Maxwell (and I don't believe that will happen) I'm convinced it wasn't Giuffre.
red dog 1
(32,149 posts)IronLionZion
(50,353 posts)They've been doing this for years going back to Pizzagate in 2016. They protest too much. There is way too much evidence for a supposedly innocent person.
timms139
(442 posts)PEE tape was actually real and given to Putin as a gift from Trump's buddy Epstein ?
FakeNoose
(39,507 posts)It happened just before the Helsinki conference, and that's when Putin pulled the rug out from under Chump.
I'm wondering if - whatever it was - it made Chump convinced that Epstein was the source and that's why he died a year later in prison? If that's the case it won't show up in these emails or anywhere else. We need to start asking people like Bill Barr or possibly Rudy Giuliani. Under oath of course.
Skittles
(168,660 posts)SAY IT LIKE IT IS; yes INDEED
malaise
(291,171 posts)That is all
RockRaven
(18,415 posts)start raising the issue of what evidence has been corruptly or illegally redacted, mishandled, or destroyed to cover up for Trump.
Emile
(39,194 posts)dem4decades
(13,405 posts)usonian
(22,493 posts)The dam broke.
Check flights and moving vans to Argentina.
spanone
(140,684 posts)samplegirl
(13,554 posts)destroyed evidence by now.
no_hypocrisy
(53,789 posts)I'd wager three years of my life that Trump split the profits of trafficking young girls with Epstein.
returnee
(742 posts)This leads to Israel and Putin. A trifecta of criminal and treasonous horror.
Hotler
(13,618 posts)This could be a global crime, not just a Washington thing.
jimlup
(8,009 posts)My guess is tRump will be able to ride this one out.
I truly wonder if we should be concentrating our efforts somewhere else. Yes, let's release the damn files but I'm doubtful that we will find a smoking gun.
Further I think tRump's corrupt Justice department will obfuscate or redact anything incriminating in the files...
Just say'n