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Rhiagel

(1,820 posts)
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 08:23 AM Sunday

Subpoena Epstein's Brother

The House Oversight Committee should subpoena Mark Epstein. Was he joking or does he personally know that Putin possesses kompromat on TSF? This is a matter of national security that needs to be addressed.

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Irish_Dem

(77,995 posts)
1. This is a national security issue and should be a top priority.
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 08:30 AM
Sunday

If the CIA had been doing its job, they would already know all about this.

JT45242

(3,743 posts)
2. That is probably what the group of eight were given when Mcturtle threatened to scuttle everything
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 08:45 AM
Sunday

Mcturtle had been trying to cover up the classified Intel that mango Mussolini was a known Russian kompromat or agent but wouldn't allow it to come up because a large number, if not the majority of his party , are as well.

Irish_Dem

(77,995 posts)
3. The outright treason and corruption is unbelievable.
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 08:47 AM
Sunday

And they keep doing it with impunity.

Bluetus

(1,932 posts)
7. We need to demand of our next Presidential candidate
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 09:49 AM
Sunday

that they appoint people who will vigorously pursue the corruption in their departments.

Remember that there has NEVER been a Democrat appointed as FBI Director. Republicans always appoint hard line Republicans. Democrats appoint Republicans they think will be less radical because they "don't want to appear political."

We cannot continue this practice. We know that one of the big points of Project 2025 was to load every department with Trump loyalists and Heritage crazies.

Maybe Obama would call this a "litmus test". But he's the guy who appointed Comey as FBI Director and nominated Merrick Garland for the Supreme Court. This stuff must stop. And the 2028 candidate should be very clear about this intention so that we have a clear mandate. I don't believe we can overcome the election rigging without an overwhelming result, and I don't believe we get an overwhelming result unless we run on strong ideas and plans.

paleotn

(21,185 posts)
13. Not necessarily. And like most federal organizations....
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 10:27 AM
Sunday

US intel community isn't just a few guys sitting around in an office complex somewhere waiting to be compromised. It's gigantic, filled with thousands upon thousands of civil servants, with only a patina of political appointees. DOGE attempted to go there, but with limited success it seems. Perhaps even Donnie knows that next to the military those are the last people you want to fuck with for political purposes. They simply know too much.

The thing that still burns my ass is Trump giving that stupid speech early in his first term in front of the CIA Memorial Wall. Those stars represent people who died in service to their country. Many cannot be named. My initial thought was just shoot his ass down like the dog he is. Right there and then. Repercussions be damned!

paleotn

(21,185 posts)
10. They, plus NSA and others, probably already know all about this. And a lot more.
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 10:14 AM
Sunday

The problem likely isn't what they don't know. It's what to do with what they DO know. That might have been the case during the last 2 Dem administrations.

Now before I get castigated, this is simply a thought experiment based on the fact that US intel is extraordinarily good at what they do, and know a whole hell of a lot about a whole bunch of things. Before the Ukraine invasion, it seemed US intel was reading Putin's emails before he did.

The thinking might have been we're on a political knife edge between a national security threat and seeming to weaponize the intel community for political gain. I get your likely response, but unlike evidence from a criminal investigation, many of the details around national intelligence info can't be made public without threatening sources and methods. People's lives in some cases. See the Wikileaks disaster. So proving something like a compromised candidate and / or president in the public sphere, particularly in the age of social media, may be close to impossible. And the resulting shit storm from Republicans and big chunk of the electorate over "I can't tell you all the details, you've just got to trust us" would be ginormous. You can imagine the accusations against a sitting Dem admin. and where all that might go.

If all this was the case, this may have been a situation of two "less than optimal" choices for at least one, maybe two Dem administrations. And it was debatable at the time which one was worse. Maybe the worst choice was made. Certainly feels that way, but that's easy to say in hindsight.

displacedvermoter

(4,017 posts)
15. I imagine they did, and do.
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 10:46 AM
Sunday

What they did with it and plan on doing with it now is another thing.

Rhiagel

(1,820 posts)
12. Then Garcia should let everyone know of the GOP's obstruction.
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 10:20 AM
Sunday

Tell the press that they want to subpoena Mark Epstein for the sake of national security, but the GOP won't let them. The emails alone show that he has a lot of valuable information that would be helpful to their investigation.

Farmer-Rick

(12,295 posts)
9. Yeah, it's clear Epstein was also a psycho
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 10:10 AM
Sunday

Seems they find each other. Psychos very rarely commit suicide. Because they think they are the world.

peggysue2

(12,312 posts)
17. I listened to a Mark Epstein interview a number of weeks ago
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 12:32 PM
Sunday

The man was made to jump through all kinds of hoops by the government just to get basic information on his brother's death. He's absolutely convinced that the death was not a suicide, that the position of the ligature marks on Jeffery Epstein's neck were more indicative of a garroting than a hanging.

Is he right? I have no idea. He could simply be a grieving, angry brother grasping for answers.

But you add his suspicions with all the confusion at the prison, the missing minutes on the video tape from the night of Epstein's death, Trump's squirrely attitude about all things Epstein and it at least raises an eyebrow.

Jeffrey Epstein's network appears to have been wide implicating an enormous number of 'very important people' in human trafficking, sex rings, money laundering, espionage, etc.

Which makes one imagine a lot of those 'very important people' would have wanted the man silenced.

What a sickening mess.

dlk

(13,035 posts)
19. Although a clear national security issue
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 02:14 PM
Sunday

Matk Epstein would only plead the Fifth. He has seen what happened to his brother.

RockCreek

(1,164 posts)
20. This.
Sun Nov 16, 2025, 03:07 PM
Sunday

Perhaps with a witness protection deal if he has enough to unload and will be at risk

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