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Michelle Obama: "Don't even look at me about running" (Original Post) In It to Win It Saturday OP
This. sheshe2 Saturday #1
Sadly true. niyad Saturday #2
That makes us suck. sheshe2 Saturday #4
Currently, some 30 of 194 recognized countries has a woman head of niyad Saturday #8
Wow really puts things into perspective fujiyamasan Saturday #10
Embarrassingly, depressingly so! niyad Saturday #18
Thanks for this. sheshe2 Saturday #11
You are most welcome. niyad Saturday #19
She was appointed in Japan dsc Saturday #16
Nowhere did I specify "elected". But do keep trying. niyad Saturday #24
and he also isn't head of state dsc Saturday #25
Do keep trying. You can take up your "head of state" vs "head of governmenr" niyad Saturday #27
I Simply Remember Queen Elizabeth I. Could Speak 6 Languages, And Not ColoringFool Saturday #21
Oddly enough several chauvinistic or patriarchal societies have elected female heads of state fujiyamasan Saturday #9
The ones you mentioned, except for Sheinbaum, are proof of a saying niyad Saturday #22
Wisdom? Long 'i'.... Weyesdom. Norrrm Saturday #3
The word was "wifedom." Kind of uncommon usage Ocelot II Saturday #6
I got that one wrong. Thanks. Norrrm Saturday #7
My son really wanted her to run, so I hope he doesn't see it. CTyankee Saturday #5
The woman has said no - every, single, time. No exceptions. stopdiggin Saturday #12
Not just no but convincingly hell no! moonscape Saturday #14
Exactly! Sadly, some people do not seem to get the message, even those niyad Saturday #23
lol I wouldn't. I know better.. Cha Saturday #13
Can't blame her fujiyamasan Saturday #15
Not looking in her direction one little bit ... the answer is NO. Raine Saturday #17
Never Occurred To Me. Definition of Insanity. N/T ColoringFool Saturday #20
That's one smart lady Bluestocking Saturday #26

sheshe2

(94,953 posts)
1. This.
Sat Nov 15, 2025, 12:20 AM
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You're not ready for a woman. So don't waste my time. We got a lot of growing up to do.”




Truth. Sad, yet it is the truth.

sheshe2

(94,953 posts)
4. That makes us suck.
Sat Nov 15, 2025, 12:42 AM
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Italy has a woman as does Mexico. Both are rather chauvinistic countries. I know, I was married to a Sicilian. I was working in sales; he equated my job to that of a hooker. Needless to say, that the marriage did not last for long.

HOWEVER, THEY VOTED FOR A WOMAN AS PRESIDENT, yet we don't/won't!

niyad

(128,648 posts)
8. Currently, some 30 of 194 recognized countries has a woman head of
Sat Nov 15, 2025, 01:09 AM
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state, including the new PM of Japan. According to what I just read, since its inception, one-third of the UN member countries has had, or has, a woman head of state. The supposed "greatest democracy in the world" is not on that list. It is not even in the top 25 in terms of women in government, or leadership in corporations.

dsc

(53,268 posts)
25. and he also isn't head of state
Sat Nov 15, 2025, 09:37 AM
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the Emperor is. But it should be noted the entire thread is about whether we are ready for a woman to be elected not appointed.

niyad

(128,648 posts)
27. Do keep trying. You can take up your "head of state" vs "head of governmenr"
Sat Nov 15, 2025, 09:53 AM
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distinction with the UN, since they were the ones who included her on the list. Threads frequently expand in scope far past the OP, a fact of which Ii assume you are well aware.

ColoringFool

(108 posts)
21. I Simply Remember Queen Elizabeth I. Could Speak 6 Languages, And Not
Sat Nov 15, 2025, 09:01 AM
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The Melania definition of "speak 6 languages." Led England to victory over the Spanish Armada. Kept a religious even keel after the tumultuous times of her father and sister.

fujiyamasan

(1,002 posts)
9. Oddly enough several chauvinistic or patriarchal societies have elected female heads of state
Sat Nov 15, 2025, 01:18 AM
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But in most cases they were the daughters of previous rulers, so some of it was definitely nepotism and name familiarity. In many of those cases the women also had a conservative or authoritarian streak.

In developing countries Indira Gandhi of India, Benzir Bhutto of Pakistan, and recently deposed Sheik of Bangladesh come to mind. All three were in South Asia which isn’t known to have the best record on women’s rights, but they did elect a woman at some point nevertheless.

Of course, I’m thinking of Thatcher and Meloni in terms of conservative presidents or prime ministers of western countries. The current Japanese PM is also known to be conservative.

But Mexico is a very unusual case, and they elected a female socialist who also happens to be Jewish, which I doubt we’d ever see here.

niyad

(128,648 posts)
22. The ones you mentioned, except for Sheinbaum, are proof of a saying
Sat Nov 15, 2025, 09:01 AM
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in the Women's Movement, "Not all women are my sisters". There was also the comment that the ultimate feminist nightmare would be that we would finally get a woman president and vice president, only they would be phyllis schlafly and anita bryant.

Ocelot II

(128,381 posts)
6. The word was "wifedom." Kind of uncommon usage
Sat Nov 15, 2025, 01:04 AM
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but the interviewer was asking about the traditional role of a first lady.

CTyankee

(67,626 posts)
5. My son really wanted her to run, so I hope he doesn't see it.
Sat Nov 15, 2025, 12:56 AM
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I take her at her word. I love and deeply respect her. My husband does also. I wish I could tell her that. We salute her for her service!

stopdiggin

(14,753 posts)
12. The woman has said no - every, single, time. No exceptions.
Sat Nov 15, 2025, 01:36 AM
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to continue to ask the question ...

starts to border on the abusive ? but, most certain serves no purpose.

niyad

(128,648 posts)
23. Exactly! Sadly, some people do not seem to get the message, even those
Sat Nov 15, 2025, 09:04 AM
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who really should know better.

Cha

(315,952 posts)
13. lol I wouldn't. I know better..
Sat Nov 15, 2025, 01:46 AM
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Michelle Obama gave her Wonderful Service to our Naitn for 8 years in the WH along with Pres Obama.

fujiyamasan

(1,002 posts)
15. Can't blame her
Sat Nov 15, 2025, 02:06 AM
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She’s basically like, I’m not going to be the country’s savior. Find someone else to clean up this damn mess.

We already saw the torrent of racism that was unleashed after her husband did clean up the last mess that was left behind, and that was nothing compared to this clustefuck.

Raine

(31,011 posts)
17. Not looking in her direction one little bit ... the answer is NO.
Sat Nov 15, 2025, 05:41 AM
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Someone who doesn't want it wouldn't be any good in it anyway.

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