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PeaceWave

(2,533 posts)
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 09:10 PM Friday

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That's unfortunate. choie Friday #1
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However, H2O Man Friday #9
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True. H2O Man Friday #16
I like Swalwell, but it is alleged that he committed federal mortgage fraud. TexasTowelie Friday #11
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I agree that they are Republican smears. TexasTowelie Friday #17
Isn't that a bogus Trump charge? dem4decades Friday #15
Yes, see my response in post #17 that provides me explanation. nt TexasTowelie Friday #18
Trumped up allegations (pun intended) LudwigPastorius Saturday #20
Swalwell has baggage, like most people. SunSeeker Saturday #21
No, No, No, and NO, Eric! lastlib Friday #3
one suspects keeping his house seat will not be difficult msongs Friday #4
As others have said, we need fighters like him in the House, but FoxNewsSucks Friday #5
Isn't Katie Porter also running? If so, talk about an embarrassment of riches. Marie Marie Friday #6
Yes, Katie is running and is currently the top Dem candidate in the polls. nt SunSeeker Friday #7
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She is not way down. She slipped 6 points. She would win in a walk against Bianco in November. SunSeeker Friday #19
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She's still ahead of all Democrats in the race, including Swalwell, according to his own poll. SunSeeker Saturday #24
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Declared Celerity Friday #8
I really like Rep Eric Swalwell from way Cha Friday #12
I'll keep an eye on him fujiyamasan Saturday #23
You're basing that on one instance where she told a errant staffer to get out of a video shot. SunSeeker Saturday #28
Thanks for the first hand perspective fujiyamasan Saturday #30
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"Our" candidates have to be pure and innocent of any baggage... IcyPeas Saturday #25
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Ugh NO! 👎nt Raine Saturday #31

choie

(6,440 posts)
1. That's unfortunate.
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 09:28 PM
Friday

We need him in the house.

Response to choie (Reply #1)

H2O Man

(78,310 posts)
9. However,
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 11:24 PM
Friday

he is the only one being mentioned in a discussion about running for that office. Hence, while we can say we need Democrats in the House, we can safely not include a single one of them in this particular discussion.

Response to H2O Man (Reply #9)

H2O Man

(78,310 posts)
16. True.
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 11:32 PM
Friday

It certainly does not involve any other House member. But it surely will matter what the voters think. Big difference.

TexasTowelie

(124,396 posts)
11. I like Swalwell, but it is alleged that he committed federal mortgage fraud.
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 11:27 PM
Friday

There was also a relationship with an alleged Chinese spy so Swalwell will have obstacles to overcome. While MAGA will emphasize those stories, I believe that Swalwell has demonstrated the personal character that makes him worthy to be on the ballot and to be governor.

Response to TexasTowelie (Reply #11)

TexasTowelie

(124,396 posts)
17. I agree that they are Republican smears.
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 11:52 PM
Friday

However, the mortgage fraud case (and negative publicity) is going to run throughout the next few months so I felt that your statement that Swalwell doesn't have any baggage was not entirely accurate since he is involved in an active investigation.

While we (as Democrats) recognize the games that the GOP plays with their propaganda and weaponizing the DOJ, people who are independents or the middle of the political spectrum may not recognize it.

dem4decades

(13,426 posts)
15. Isn't that a bogus Trump charge?
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 11:31 PM
Friday

TexasTowelie

(124,396 posts)
18. Yes, see my response in post #17 that provides me explanation. nt
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 11:55 PM
Friday

LudwigPastorius

(13,840 posts)
20. Trumped up allegations (pun intended)
Sat Nov 15, 2025, 12:15 AM
Saturday

William Pulte was tasked with rummaging around in files, he had no business looking at, in a fishing expedition.


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/nov/11/fannie-mae-mortgage-documents-letitia-james

SunSeeker

(57,326 posts)
21. Swalwell has baggage, like most people.
Sat Nov 15, 2025, 12:20 AM
Saturday

In a statewide race, unlike his very blue district race, Republicans would push it big time, and I'm not just talking about the ridiculous Pulte mortgage investigation. Get on his Twitter feed and you'll see what I'm talking about. But in blue California, whoever is the Dem nominee will likely win, regardless of baggage.

And Swalwell is running behind Porter in his own poll that his supporters paid for:

The latest poll of the race comes from EMC Research and was reported by Punchbowl News after reports that Swalwell could jump into the race. It showed Hilton with 20 percent support, while Porter and Bianco followed at 16 percent and 14 percent. Swalwell polled at 11 percent, while other candidates were in the single digits. The poll was conducted by "an outside group supporting the congressman," reported Punchbowl.
https://www.newsweek.com/republicans-lead-four-california-governor-race-polls-11051201

Both Swalwell and Porter would make great governors, but as former constituent and volunteer for Porter, I know her and like her a lot. She's got my vote in the primary.

lastlib

(27,188 posts)
3. No, No, No, and NO, Eric!
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 10:33 PM
Friday

PLEASE stay in the House! We need you there! At least as long as The Felon occupies OUR House.

msongs

(72,871 posts)
4. one suspects keeping his house seat will not be difficult
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 10:44 PM
Friday

FoxNewsSucks

(11,465 posts)
5. As others have said, we need fighters like him in the House, but
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 11:04 PM
Friday

if a couple terms as Governor tees him up for a Presidential run, I'm OK with that too.

Marie Marie

(10,749 posts)
6. Isn't Katie Porter also running? If so, talk about an embarrassment of riches.
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 11:07 PM
Friday

Glad I wouldn't have to chose between those two excellent candidates.

If Swalwell wins, he can pick up the torch of trolling Trump. He's even better than Newsom at that.

SunSeeker

(57,326 posts)
7. Yes, Katie is running and is currently the top Dem candidate in the polls. nt
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 11:15 PM
Friday

Response to SunSeeker (Reply #7)

SunSeeker

(57,326 posts)
19. She is not way down. She slipped 6 points. She would win in a walk against Bianco in November.
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 11:58 PM
Friday

Yes, she slipped 6 points, because she fell victim to the double standard we have for female politicians--they are not allowed to show anger. But she is not running behind both Republicans, according to a Berkeley IGS Poll released Nov. 7. Only one Republican, crazy Trumper Sheriff Chad Bianco, is above her, and only because there are only 2 serious Republican contenders running to split the Republican vote, unlike on the Democratic side.


The primary election will be held in June, where the field of candidates running for governor of California will winnow down to two, whom voters will decide between next November. Porter has plenty of time to regroup.

The Berkeley IGS Poll found that support for Bianco was largely along party lines, with 37% of Republican voters supporting him, compared to just 1% of Democrats. https://www.desertsun.com/story/news/nation/california/2025/11/13/latest-california-governor-race-poll-primary-elections/87231067007/

If it was between Porter and Bianco in November, she would wipe the floor with him. California hates Trump and anyone associated with him. That is why Prop. 50 won by a 2 to 1 margin 2 weeks ago.



Response to SunSeeker (Reply #19)

SunSeeker

(57,326 posts)
24. She's still ahead of all Democrats in the race, including Swalwell, according to his own poll.
Sat Nov 15, 2025, 02:14 AM
Saturday

Hey, I get it, you want Swalwell. But that's no reason to bash Porter.

Response to SunSeeker (Reply #24)

Celerity

(53,150 posts)
8. Declared
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 11:21 PM
Friday
Ethan Agarwal, tech entrepreneur

Xavier Becerra, former U.S. Secretary of Health and Human Services (2021–2025) and former Attorney General of California (2017–2021)

Carolina Buhler, UCLA student
Ian Calderon, former majority leader of the California Assembly (2016–2020) from the 57th district (2012–2020)
Stephen Cloobeck, founder of Diamond Resorts
Zoltan Istvan, founder of the Transhumanist Party, Libertarian candidate for governor in 2018, and Republican candidate for president in 2020
Thunder Parley, software engineer

Katie Porter, former U.S. representative from California's 47th congressional district (2019–2025) and candidate for U.S. Senate in 2024

Raji Rab, pilot and perennial candidate
Tony Thurmond, California State Superintendent of Public Instruction (2019–present)

Antonio Villaraigosa, former mayor of Los Angeles (2005–2013) and candidate for governor in 2018

Betty Yee, California Democratic Party vice chair (2021–present) and former California State Controller (2015–2023)


Announcement pending

Eric Swalwell, U.S. representative from California's 14th congressional district (2013–present) and candidate for president in 2020


Publicly expressed interest

Rick Caruso, founder of Caruso and runner-up for mayor of Los Angeles in 2022


Potential

Tom Steyer, founder of Farallon Capital and candidate for president in 2020


Withdrawn

Toni Atkins, former President pro tempore of the California State Senate (2018–2024) from the 39th district (2016–2024) and former Speaker of the California State Assembly (2012–2016) from the 78th district (2010–2016)

Eleni Kounalakis, Lieutenant Governor of California (2019–present) (running for state treasurer)

Fiona Ma, California State Treasurer (2019–present) (running for lieutenant governor)

Michael Younger, vice president of Calbright College (2021–present) and former Deputy Secretary of the California Labor and Workforce Development Agency (2019–2021)


Declined

Rob Bonta, California Attorney General (2021–present) (running for re-election)

Laphonza Butler, former U.S. senator (2023–2024)

Kamala Harris, former vice president of the United States (2021–2025), former U.S. senator (2017–2021), and nominee for president in 2024

Matt Mahan, mayor of San Jose (2023–present)

Alex Padilla, U.S. senator (2021–present)

Adam Schiff, U.S. senator (2024–present)


Cha

(315,952 posts)
12. I really like Rep Eric Swalwell from way
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 11:28 PM
Friday

out here on Kauai.. From what I've read about him Fighting for Dems on DU.

I wish him the Best.

fujiyamasan

(1,003 posts)
23. I'll keep an eye on him
Sat Nov 15, 2025, 01:40 AM
Saturday

I don’t like how Porter treats her staff. It’s a deal breaker for me.

I don’t care what your position is.
If you don’t treat people that work for you with respect, I have none for you and will also not vote for you.

SunSeeker

(57,326 posts)
28. You're basing that on one instance where she told a errant staffer to get out of a video shot.
Sat Nov 15, 2025, 02:46 AM
Saturday

It was not said in public, the staffer was not publicly humiliated. All she said was "Get out of the fucking shot." She was filming a video for Biden and the staffer wandered into the shot. That was 5 years ago. That is all people base this "she's mean to staff" claim on. If a man had told that to a staffer who had mistakenly wandered into a shot and forced a reshooting of the video, the staffer would have apologized and we would have never heard about it. Those kind of statements are said at work places all of the time. When men say it, they are considered tough and in control; when women say it, they're considered mean, bitchy or hysterical. It is a sexist double standard.

I was a volunteer for Katie Porter when she was running in my purple district in Orange County, CA. Phone banking was tough going because the district included very red Huntington Beach. She often showed up at the campaign office as we toiled away to cheer us on and inspire us, bringing cookies and pizza. She was always kind to us and very down to earth.

As a single mom running a campaign (her kids were teens then), she had a no-nonsense style and used swear words, like most adults I know do. But apparently female candidates are not allowed to, even in private. I think that's bullshit.

fujiyamasan

(1,003 posts)
30. Thanks for the first hand perspective
Sat Nov 15, 2025, 03:09 AM
Saturday

But I’m a little tired of the reaction being attributed to sexism. I wouldn’t have cared if it was a man or woman, I just don’t like abusive bosses. I also don’t give a shit about swearing.

My impression of her treatment of staffers wasn’t shaped just by the recent video. I had heard other allegations previously and I didn’t like her responses to it, or the way she reacted to Schiff winning the primary. I found it ridiculous.

Either way, it will be a wide open primary and I’ll evaluate all of our choices next year as we get closer to the nomination. Any candidate will be better than a republican leading this state. That’s for sure!




Response to fujiyamasan (Reply #23)

IcyPeas

(24,643 posts)
25. "Our" candidates have to be pure and innocent of any baggage...
Sat Nov 15, 2025, 02:20 AM
Saturday

Meanwhile they are protecting pedophiles FFS.

Mortgage fraud? Ha! You wouldn't believe what crimes Donald Trump has been found guilty of.





Response to IcyPeas (Reply #25)

Raine

(31,011 posts)
31. Ugh NO! 👎nt
Sat Nov 15, 2025, 05:52 AM
Saturday
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