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choie

(6,407 posts)
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 02:20 PM Friday

Trump administration will require SNAP participants to reapply for benefits

THEY ARE FUCKING EVIL BASTARDS.

"The Trump administration will require millions of low-income people to reapply for food stamps as part of an effort to crack down on “fraud,” Agriculture Secretary Brooke Rollins said.

Rollins told Newsmax on Thursday that she plans to “have everyone reapply for their benefits, make sure that everyone that’s taking a taxpayer-funded benefit through ... food stamps, that they literally are vulnerable and they can’t survive without it.”

She did not provide further information on when or how people would need to reapply.

Her comment comes after funds for the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program ran out of federal funding during the government shutdown, leading many conservative pundits and even President Donald Trump to criticize just how much the government spends on food stamps. SNAP, which serves nearly 42 million Americans, cost roughly $100 billion in fiscal year 2024.

SNAP fraud can occur when participants intentionally lie about their qualifications for the program, retailers exchange benefits for cash or criminals skim EBT cards for benefits, per USDA’s Food and Nutrition Service. But anti-hunger groups say there’s not nearly as much fraud as the Trump administration alleges and note that SNAP only issues about $6 a day in benefits to the average participant.

State SNAP administrators already require participants to recertify their information as often as every six months, and families that receive benefits are expected to keep their work history, income and other personal information up to date.

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/14/trump-usda-snap-participants-reapply-benefits-00651874?brid=edJ9Vt5squtERGY14BqlMw&fbclid=IwY2xjawOEXeVleHRuA2FlbQIxMQBzcnRjBmFwcF9pZA80MDk5NjI2MjMwODU2MDkAAR7HnG3wpCFBoP1vRWMPXRVwwZYfrmo6QzrQvUmmR9PZG9OuPJIdGXeuAF3A4w_aem_JE8Mp5VdmbCm9MBZWLA4oQ

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Trump administration will require SNAP participants to reapply for benefits (Original Post) choie Friday OP
Pretty Sure florida will be the test case for the roll out Samael13 Friday #1
Because their governor is a bastard? choie Friday #5
Yes. 😁 In It to Win It Friday #23
God Damn the 8 Democrats who flipped. Chasstev365 Friday #2
Yep, I knew this would happen and it will get worse but, but,but the files, the files!!!. nt yaesu Friday #3
Not sure why you're bringing up the Epstein files. choie Friday #7
Sounds like they are just talking now, while enjoying pain it causes. SNAP is REcertified in most states every 6 to 12 Silent Type Friday #4
"It's not the end of the world" - You're very blase about a process that can be very onerous choie Friday #6
Well, most folks are doing fine recertifying every 6 months to 12 months now. Doubt they'll have trouble UNLESS Silent Type Friday #11
I have said this numerous times on this forum choie Friday #14
Most handle the certification fine. Others turn to people like you. Are you suggesting anyone who applies shout get Silent Type Friday #19
I'm suggesting that choie Saturday #24
Trump keeps telling them that it is mostly Democrats on SNAP, do the GQP politicians believe him?? Jack Valentino Friday #9
Absolutely agree. But 6 and 12 month recertification has not been a problem for vast majority. Silent Type Friday #13
It hasn't been a problem for me, but now it will be.... since the BBB SNAP provisions were designed Jack Valentino Friday #15
Totally agree, the "work" requirements are absolute BS. Only about 8% of SNAP benefits go to families without people Silent Type Friday #16
Possibly, I might qualify for a 'health exemption' if I finally go see my doctor--- Jack Valentino Friday #18
Jack, I really believe you would qualify. Mental health is one of exceptions. Even getting substance abuse treatment Silent Type Friday #21
There are a number of exemptions choie Saturday #25
There's that smaller government again... Hugin Friday #8
that's a great point. choie Friday #10
Isn't that the point? hamsterjill Saturday #29
And the "work requirements" about to be imposed, don't actually result in Jack Valentino Friday #12
Oh yeah...it was-a great deal...we saved SNAP and all except we didn't. Demsrule86 Friday #17
Nice to see you here again, 'Demsrule86'.... possibly you have been absent for a while--- Jack Valentino Friday #20
I had heart valve replacement in 23...bicuspid valve. It was a genetic defect born with it. The surgery went well. Demsrule86 15 hrs ago #31
As Billionaires Order Newer Yachts With "Taxpayer-Funded Tax ... ColoringFool Friday #22
Look, none of us want fraud... IcyPeas Saturday #26
Translation you're application will be processed in 2045 Bread and Circuses Saturday #27
No, translation: We want to pick and choose B.See Saturday #28
trump is to lazy and stupid kacekwl Saturday #30

Samael13

(94 posts)
1. Pretty Sure florida will be the test case for the roll out
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 02:42 PM
Friday

Florida is one of only a few states to not have a timeline to restart benefits which makes me wonder why.

yaesu

(8,819 posts)
3. Yep, I knew this would happen and it will get worse but, but,but the files, the files!!!. nt
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 02:48 PM
Friday

choie

(6,407 posts)
7. Not sure why you're bringing up the Epstein files.
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 09:26 PM
Friday

Unless you're implying that the 8 Democrats caved so that the House would take up the vote to release them. Otherwise, I don't get it.

Silent Type

(12,025 posts)
4. Sounds like they are just talking now, while enjoying pain it causes. SNAP is REcertified in most states every 6 to 12
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 02:56 PM
Friday

months anyway, so it's not the end of the world UNLESS THEY CHANGE THE QUESTIONS JUST TO BE A-HOLES. Don't doubt some red states will do that, apparently that is what red states want.

choie

(6,407 posts)
6. "It's not the end of the world" - You're very blase about a process that can be very onerous
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 09:24 PM
Friday

How would you like to have. a benefit and have to recertify even though you just recertified?

And their excuse for implementing such bullshit is to undercover rampant fraud. There's fraud, but it's mostly perpetrated by theives who steal SNAP from recipients EBT cards, most likely with the connivance of those who work at supermarkets. That's the fraud. Not undocumented people getting SNAP (they can't) not people getting SNAP on behalf of people who are dead, not people using SNAP to purchase alcohol or toilet paper.

At the end of the day, the goal is to prevent vulnerable people from getting assistance for food. It is cruel and heartless.

Silent Type

(12,025 posts)
11. Well, most folks are doing fine recertifying every 6 months to 12 months now. Doubt they'll have trouble UNLESS
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 09:57 PM
Friday

red states change the rules.

I'm not for blowing everything for those that need it by pretending recertification is so difficult. It's not in most states.

choie

(6,407 posts)
14. I have said this numerous times on this forum
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 10:10 PM
Friday

I assist older adults in applying for and recertifying their SNAP, and it can be very onerous for those who have difficulty compiling documentation. You clearly don't know what you're talking about OR you don't know people who have barriers. And I live in NY which is one of the more progressive states when it comes to benefit criteria and processes.

Silent Type

(12,025 posts)
19. Most handle the certification fine. Others turn to people like you. Are you suggesting anyone who applies shout get
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 11:26 PM
Friday

SNAP. Honestly, I’d be fine with that, but I bet at least half of country would not be.

Appreciate your help in getting people benefits.

choie

(6,407 posts)
24. I'm suggesting that
Sat Nov 15, 2025, 04:45 AM
Saturday

Everyone who meets the already strict criteria should receive SNAP and shouldn’t have to jump through more hoops because the administration is using the pretense of widespread fraud to keep people from getting a benefit that helps them eat.

YOU’D be fine with that?im happy for you.

Jack Valentino

(4,049 posts)
9. Trump keeps telling them that it is mostly Democrats on SNAP, do the GQP politicians believe him??
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 09:44 PM
Friday

Because the largest number of people on SNAP are WHITE,
and the majority of WHITES voted for Trump in 2024...

Every attack on SNAP is more of an attack on their own voters, than upon Democrats...

Silent Type

(12,025 posts)
13. Absolutely agree. But 6 and 12 month recertification has not been a problem for vast majority.
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 09:58 PM
Friday

Jack Valentino

(4,049 posts)
15. It hasn't been a problem for me, but now it will be.... since the BBB SNAP provisions were designed
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 10:27 PM
Friday

to FORCE older people back into the work-force
(to make up for the loss of deported farm workers, as one GQP politician stated)....

I never applied for SNAP benefits until I was 61 years old and without any employment whatsoever,
although I would have qualified for it earlier, I was living on savings....

I will be 63 next month, and decided to apply for Social Security at 62,
just after the last election, with a rather small benefit,
because I felt I had no choice.... Before my SS started,
I had been surviving for many months upon the cash I could get
from selling off ham radio equipment which I owned, before the SS kicked in---
dealing with utility "shutoff threats" etc etc

but when I applied for that small Social Security benefit,
I was taking my SNAP benefits into account---
and now I am going to lose them--- EVEN IF I "got a job" with 20 hours a week--
my income from that, combined with my S.S. benefits would now put me over the income limit,
as I understand it.... but I don't feel capable of working, even if anyone would hire me,
I think they would soon fire me--- and if they didn't I might drop dead within their establishment!

(Even though I made this S.S. decision after Trump had 'been elected'---
I had no clue that my SNAP benefits would be in doubt---
he CERTAINLY did not run on THAT, nor did any Republican say such,
that I was aware of...)






Silent Type

(12,025 posts)
16. Totally agree, the "work" requirements are absolute BS. Only about 8% of SNAP benefits go to families without people
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 11:18 PM
Friday

meeting work requirements. And there are many exceptions to having to work.

I’m hopeful most states will apply rules to err on side of people applying.

The problem is, about 50% in population like the idea that they are getting tough with SNAP requirements. It’s tough fighting that, especially when not many — if any — will lose benefits.

Jack Valentino

(4,049 posts)
18. Possibly, I might qualify for a 'health exemption' if I finally go see my doctor---
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 11:26 PM
Friday

due to depression, chronic fatigue and alcoholism---

but those seem somewhat questionable to me and harder to prove,
as opposed to someone with no legs and/or no arms....

Silent Type

(12,025 posts)
21. Jack, I really believe you would qualify. Mental health is one of exceptions. Even getting substance abuse treatment
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 11:35 PM
Friday

is an exception in the few states that have work requirements. Don’t think that will change, but rules have to be issued. SNAP is not just for crippled, though I totally get your reference.

Though I too have to be forced to doc, Go see your doc.

I also see one of our posters helps people apply for SNAP.

choie

(6,407 posts)
25. There are a number of exemptions
Sat Nov 15, 2025, 05:07 AM
Saturday

To the work requirement including if you are unable to work due to physical or emotional issues. If you’re working with a licensed social worker or other appropriate licensed professional, they can sign the exemption forms. Also if you don’t meet the criteria for an exemption, volunteering is another option and requires fewer hours than if you worked.

Hugin

(37,144 posts)
8. There's that smaller government again...
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 09:29 PM
Friday

Having everyone reapply will cost much more than the tiny amount of fraud in the system. They're still doing this in the meanest way possible.

choie

(6,407 posts)
10. that's a great point.
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 09:44 PM
Friday

It will also overwhelm the system, just like work requirements will do.

hamsterjill

(16,845 posts)
29. Isn't that the point?
Sat Nov 15, 2025, 06:26 AM
Saturday

To overwhelm the system and frustrate those who need this benefit even more? Typical Trump if you ask me. He doesn’t care if people suffer.

Jack Valentino

(4,049 posts)
12. And the "work requirements" about to be imposed, don't actually result in
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 09:57 PM
Friday

more SNAP beneficiaries being employed, which most of them already are---

(this is proven fact in the several states who have already tried it, notably Arkansas and Georgia---
it only resulted in people being cut off-- and at a GREAT administrative cost to those states
to certify the work requirements for everybody in the program...)

MUCH as the Republicans apparently desire to force OLDER people (age 54 to 64)
into farm work to replace all the immigrants they are deporting---
(and at least one Republican politician actually suggested that),
it's pretty damned unlikely to happen.

And GQP Speaker Mike Johnson was a goddamned LIAR,
every time he threw out that bullshit about "young men playing video games instead of working,
because they are getting SNAP"---

Johnson knew GODDAMNED WELL that people under age 55 could only get SNAP
for three months out of three years without having a job---
we ALREADY HAD work requirements for the younger folks!

The BBB's SNAP work requirements were only about FORCING OLDER PEOPLE
into the workforce!




Demsrule86

(71,452 posts)
17. Oh yeah...it was-a great deal...we saved SNAP and all except we didn't.
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 11:25 PM
Friday

We got nothing in the deal...not a damn thing. What was Schumer thinking? We gave up the ACA for nothing. I don't know if I want to throw up or cry. Maybe both.

Jack Valentino

(4,049 posts)
20. Nice to see you here again, 'Demsrule86'.... possibly you have been absent for a while---
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 11:33 PM
Friday

or at least I don't recall seeing any posts from you for some time....


Thanks for your response!

And YEAH---- Schumer needs to retire from Dem leadership!

(his Senate seat itself is open to further discussion...)


I hope you are well!
(nevermind if you don't recognize me, but I am very familiar
with your username going back years!)



Demsrule86

(71,452 posts)
31. I had heart valve replacement in 23...bicuspid valve. It was a genetic defect born with it. The surgery went well.
Mon Nov 17, 2025, 08:33 PM
15 hrs ago

But I needed ablation twice. I was put on a medicine called Amiodarone to keep out of AFIB. I needed surgery for a prolapse (giant babies). Doctor made me wait a year with no AFIB. So about 7 months ago things were going well. The doctor warned me about Amiodarone side effects but I had taken it for a long time, and I wanted that surgery. I was afraid I would go back into AFIB. Well I made a mistake. I went into Congestive heart failure due to the medicine...causes lung damage and blockages I was full of water, but, I carry it in my trunk- so not visible. I was out of breath too...had typical women symptoms back ache, a little tightness in chest...neck pain and occasional pain in my left arm...not really bad. I was sick to my stomach and had night sweats too. I was put in the hospital about three weeks ago the first time. I was in congestive heart failure...so sent home on meds (no Amiodarone this time). Although, It was a coincidence. I hade not been in danger of AFIB recently.

It turns out I was having multiple NSTEMI myocardial infarctions...this is a relatively mild heart attack. It didn't show up in the EKG. My symptoms were fleeting and I had recently been hospitalized so I didn't reach out to my Cardiologists. I started feeling worse and worse. Finally, on a really bad day nine days ago, my daughter made me go to the ER....likely saved my life. I am not sure I would have survived the night If I didn't go.

I was having non-ST elevation myocardial infarction (NSTEMI) which s a type of heart attack caused by a partial blockage in a coronary artery, leading to reduced blood flow to the heart muscle. While it is less immediately dramatic than a STEMI, it is a serious condition that still requires urgent medical attention. My heart thankfully was undamaged. The blood was going to the brain instead of the heart (The body prioritizes the the brain).

The amiodarone was to blame. Testing showed this. My lungs were damaged so I take Jardiance, steroids...all sorts of things. The good news is the damage is temporary from this drug. The lungs will heal...It could take a a couple of months or a year. Ironically, I lost 20 lbs. in the hospital so my prolapse is much more manageable. I may not need the surgery. I don't need Lasik (water pills) anymore either...good thing I might have ended up on dialysis!

It has been a wild ride. And the worst thing is my doctor warned me but I convinced him to let me stay on Amiodarone until January when the surgery could be performed. I damn near died. always something.

ColoringFool

(100 posts)
22. As Billionaires Order Newer Yachts With "Taxpayer-Funded Tax ...
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 11:45 PM
Friday

Benefits."

I can sleep soundly tonight, knowing MY PRESIDENT wants to ferret out and remove FRAUD!

WILL NO-ONE RID US OF THE MEDDLESOME POOR?!

IcyPeas

(24,636 posts)
26. Look, none of us want fraud...
Sat Nov 15, 2025, 05:18 AM
Saturday

So donald... get the fuck out of the white house.

Biggest grifter thief fraud to ever enter the white house

kacekwl

(8,781 posts)
30. trump is to lazy and stupid
Sat Nov 15, 2025, 11:03 AM
Saturday

to care about this. I wonder what asshole is really doing this.

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