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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGen. Mark Hertling warns against attempt at regime change war in Venezuela:
https://www.thebulwark.com/p/no-venezuela-is-not-a-small-latin-american-country?utm_source=bluesky&utm_medium=The%2BBulwark&utm_campaign=publerNo, Venezuela Is Not a Small Latin American Country[/risk.
And talk of a quick invasion and easy regime change is dangerously misleading
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Some Americans might be prone to normalize this driftcasually framing Venezuela as a small Latin American country the United States can coerce or remake at will. But before doing that, it might be worthwhile to review the kinds of things most military analysts will assess before planning this type of operation, especially since the U.S. military has undertaken a few regime change missions in the last few years.
To begin with, Venezuela is not small, not simple, and not susceptible to quick, low-cost military outcomes. In geographic and demographic terms alone, Venezuela is enormous. It covers roughly 882,000 square kilometers, making it substantially larger than Ukraine (579,000 sq km) or Texas (696,000 sq km). Its populationestimated to be above 31 million peopleis roughly equivalent to current wartime Ukraine and modern Texas. It is a country of sprawling mountains, dense cities, jungles, and industrial corridors where military infrastructure sits interlaced with civilian life. Caracas, Maracaibo, Valencia, and other urban centers are not surgical strike zonesthey are vast megacities where any attempt to dismantle regime capabilities from the air risks substantial civilian casualties and cascading regional effects.
A few commentators on cable news showseager to portray potential U.S. military action as simple and manageablehave taken to comparing a possible operation in Venezuela to Operation Just Cause, the 1989 U.S. invasion of Panama to seize Gen. Manuel Noriega. The analogy is dangerously misleading. Thats because Panama, in 1989, had a population of about 2.5 million spread over an area (75,000 sq km) smaller than the state of South Carolina. The entire country of Panama could be enveloped and dominated by a single U.S. corps-level operation, which is what occurred. And drug kingpin Noriega commanded a small, brittle, and corrupt force that collapsed almost immediately. The Panama Canal Zone gave the United States prepositioned forces, infrastructure, bases, and a finely tuned understanding of the terrain. The objectivesseize Noriega, protect the canal, and dismantle the Panamanian Defense Forceswere narrowly defined and achievable.
Venezuela shares none of those characteristics. It is nearly thirty times larger than Panama, with ten times the population, far more complex geography, urban density orders of greater magnitude, and a regime that has spent years preparing for exactly the kind of irregular resistance the United States now risks provoking. There is no doubt that Venezuela President Nicolás Maduros government is corrupt, but it also has dispersed command nodes into hardened or concealed locations, embedded military assets within civilian infrastructure, and empowered paramilitary groups capable of shifting into guerrilla warfare. No serious pl.anner could look at a map of Venezuela and believe it resembles Panama in scale, complexity, or political risk.
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And talk of a quick invasion and easy regime change is dangerously misleading
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Some Americans might be prone to normalize this driftcasually framing Venezuela as a small Latin American country the United States can coerce or remake at will. But before doing that, it might be worthwhile to review the kinds of things most military analysts will assess before planning this type of operation, especially since the U.S. military has undertaken a few regime change missions in the last few years.
To begin with, Venezuela is not small, not simple, and not susceptible to quick, low-cost military outcomes. In geographic and demographic terms alone, Venezuela is enormous. It covers roughly 882,000 square kilometers, making it substantially larger than Ukraine (579,000 sq km) or Texas (696,000 sq km). Its populationestimated to be above 31 million peopleis roughly equivalent to current wartime Ukraine and modern Texas. It is a country of sprawling mountains, dense cities, jungles, and industrial corridors where military infrastructure sits interlaced with civilian life. Caracas, Maracaibo, Valencia, and other urban centers are not surgical strike zonesthey are vast megacities where any attempt to dismantle regime capabilities from the air risks substantial civilian casualties and cascading regional effects.
A few commentators on cable news showseager to portray potential U.S. military action as simple and manageablehave taken to comparing a possible operation in Venezuela to Operation Just Cause, the 1989 U.S. invasion of Panama to seize Gen. Manuel Noriega. The analogy is dangerously misleading. Thats because Panama, in 1989, had a population of about 2.5 million spread over an area (75,000 sq km) smaller than the state of South Carolina. The entire country of Panama could be enveloped and dominated by a single U.S. corps-level operation, which is what occurred. And drug kingpin Noriega commanded a small, brittle, and corrupt force that collapsed almost immediately. The Panama Canal Zone gave the United States prepositioned forces, infrastructure, bases, and a finely tuned understanding of the terrain. The objectivesseize Noriega, protect the canal, and dismantle the Panamanian Defense Forceswere narrowly defined and achievable.
Venezuela shares none of those characteristics. It is nearly thirty times larger than Panama, with ten times the population, far more complex geography, urban density orders of greater magnitude, and a regime that has spent years preparing for exactly the kind of irregular resistance the United States now risks provoking. There is no doubt that Venezuela President Nicolás Maduros government is corrupt, but it also has dispersed command nodes into hardened or concealed locations, embedded military assets within civilian infrastructure, and empowered paramilitary groups capable of shifting into guerrilla warfare. No serious pl.anner could look at a map of Venezuela and believe it resembles Panama in scale, complexity, or political risk.
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(67,751 posts)1. Venezuela, Saudi Arabia, & Iran hold over 50% of the world's oil reserves, & Nigeria is in the top 10.