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Metaphorical

(2,569 posts)
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 02:55 AM Nov 14

Scenarios on Epstein

The House has cleared the release of the Epstein files. It goes to the Senate, which, by a squeaker, passes the bill.

It goes to Trump.

What happens next?

I see only three scenarios here:

1. Trump vetoes the bill, where it goes back to the House and Senate. They override the veto. At that point, Trump, knowing that damning evidence will come out, resigns.

2 Trump signs the bill (very reluctantly). It goes back to the House and Senate, where the GOP knowing that they can no longer protect him, launch an investigation to keep it very highly focused on Trump exclusively. Impeachment and dismissal become a possibility.

3. Trump steps down for reasons of ill health, Vance takes over. The investigation is quietly ended.

May be overly optimistic here, but I think Trump's days are numbered.

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AZJonnie

(2,365 posts)
1. As far as I understand, this would be an action of the House
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 03:09 AM
Nov 14

Is there an article or reliable pundit that is saying Trump would have to sign off? Seems like congressional oversight type of functionality

Irish_Dem

(78,103 posts)
3. There is no data to support any of your scenarios.
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 05:20 AM
Nov 14

To build a good theory it must be based on facts, data, evidence.

In terms of predicting human behavior, the best predictor of future behavior is past behavior.
Humans are creatures of habit and repeat the same patterns over and over.

Trump NEVER admits guilt. He has no history of taking responsibility, doing the right thing,
or quitting against his will.

Trump, his family, his pals are making a huge fortune with Trump in the WH.
Why would Trump voluntarily walk away? His children would prevent it if at all possible.

Trump will never do anything that might land him in prison.
Resigning might lead to that possibility.

Impeachment requires a functioning congress and there is zero data to support this scenario.

Irish_Dem

(78,103 posts)
9. Low probability that Trump will lose congress.
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 09:57 AM
Nov 14

Even if he does he still has the courts in his pocket.

Chasstev365

(6,790 posts)
5. Or: A heavily redacted file comes out come which does not specifically accuse Trump
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 06:58 AM
Nov 14

Fox, Rightwing Hate Radio, and Russian influenced social media scream 100% vindication and the lapdog media goes right along with it.

However, a majority if the American public are not that stupid and, along with the coming house of cards stock market collapse, the GOP gets slaughtered in the mid-terms and Trump and his administration are fucked.




Trueblue Texan

(4,040 posts)
8. The majority of Americans...
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 09:39 AM
Nov 14

...aren't stupid enough to have re-elected him, but he is in the Oval Office nonetheless.

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