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Celerity

(53,157 posts)
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 09:13 PM Nov 13

How on Earth Are We Just Now Hearing About Trump's 'Hours' With an Epstein Victim?


Epstein said this in writing in 2011.

https://prospect.org/2025/11/13/how-are-we-just-now-hearing-about-trumps-hours-with-epstein-victim/


Bill Christeson holds a sign calling for the release of the Jeffrey Epstein files, November 12, 2025, outside the U.S. Capitol. Credit: Tom Williams/CQ Roll Call via AP Images

Well, now we have it. On Wednesday, Democrats on the House Oversight Committee released another batch of documents related to notorious pedophile Jeffrey Epstein. Among them were several emails about Donald Trump. One was from Epstein to his accomplice Ghislaine Maxwell back in 2011. He wrote: “i want you to realize that that dog that hasn’t barked is trump.. [victim] spent hours at my house with him ,, he has never once been mentioned. police chief. etc. im 75 % there[.]” (Excuse the spelling and grammar errors, that’s all Jeffrey.)

By now, we’re all familiar with what “spent hours” meant in the context of rich, powerful men and Epstein’s victims—particularly given the reference to ‘barking,’ which has to mean going to prosecutors or the media. Epstein also wrote to the author Michael Wolff in 2019: “[victim] mara lago … trump said he asked me to resign, never a member ever. of course he knew about the girls as he asked ghislaine to stop[.]” This appears to be a reference to Maxwell picking up victims at Mar-a-Lago—raising the question of whether Trump was mad at Epstein’s abuses, or for “taking our people,” as he said in July.

This certainly puts some more intrigue on the seating yesterday of Rep. Adelita Grijalva (D-AZ), the 218th vote on the discharge petition in the House to release the Epstein files, as well as the Trump administration’s increasingly desperate campaign to stop that vote.

But I have just one question: Was President Biden’s pick to run federal law enforcement, former Attorney General Merrick Garland, kicked in the head by a particularly irritable mule right before assuming office in 2021, and did he thereby spend the next four years wandering around the Justice Department bumping into things and saying, “It feels like I am forgetting something. Where am I?” Because otherwise his term in office is looking like the greatest law enforcement failure in American history, and Biden’s decision to nominate Garland the most catastrophic personnel decision by any Democratic president since James Buchanan.

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How on Earth Are We Just Now Hearing About Trump's 'Hours' With an Epstein Victim? (Original Post) Celerity Nov 13 OP
So much for the mighty Surveillance State leftstreet Nov 13 #1
Trump commits a daily atrocity it seems, and gets away scott free. Swede Nov 13 #2
About Merrick Garland AverageOldGuy Nov 13 #3
If A Man Is Capable of Crapping His Pants modrepub Nov 14 #4

Swede

(37,965 posts)
2. Trump commits a daily atrocity it seems, and gets away scott free.
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 10:18 PM
Nov 13

It's absolutely mind-boggling how this man can keep on skating away.

AverageOldGuy

(3,183 posts)
3. About Merrick Garland
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 11:26 PM
Nov 13

I don't think the "kicked in the head by a mule" explanation works. That would have caused quite a wound which would have become public knowledge.

I think he spent a lot of time napping at his desk and hiding in his private restroom whenever anyone brought him something the least bit controversial.

modrepub

(3,967 posts)
4. If A Man Is Capable of Crapping His Pants
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 07:49 AM
Nov 14

In a courtroom and doesn’t seem to care and the M$M doesn’t feel that’s fit to print then how will anything else ever see the light of day?

For me, it’s kind of obvious, no one wants to go through the trouble to hold Tump to any measure of accountability

I’m pretty sure the prosecutors didn’t want to go through a big trial for Epstein because their case was shaky not because of the evidence but the witnesses were sort of compromised given their situation. They knew Epstein’s lawyers were going to vigorously attack their credibility and cloud their testimony, that is if these girls would even want to take the stand and be subject to all of the embarrassing details of this case.

It’s all maddening. Folks would rather look away than actually go through the hard slog of doing right.

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