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WSHazel

(618 posts)
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 04:19 PM Nov 13

Additional Epstein files issue

The sex trafficking comes first, but money laundering needs to be on the list of things investigated. Trump is really worried about these files, but so far there have been no witnesses that put him that close to anything serious with sex trafficking.

What if the trafficking is not what Trump is worried about? What if there is evidence of some other crime in those emails or in the file somewhere?

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Additional Epstein files issue (Original Post) WSHazel Nov 13 OP
Or what if he is being paid big bucks to keep them secret Raven123 Nov 13 #1
Agree KT2000 Nov 13 #2
There's something dodgy about MarALago mortgage leftstreet Nov 13 #3
That would be awesome if he was evicted AllyCat Nov 13 #4
The latest accusation of mortgage fraud came out today against Eric Swalwell. MLWR Nov 13 #8
Right? leftstreet Nov 13 #11
Pulte needs to be investigated/ He is the one recommending these investigations. OLDMDDEM Nov 14 #31
Its always projection with trump and republicans MerryBlooms Nov 13 #21
That would have to be a paper case, to be investigated by forensic accountants. Ocelot II Nov 13 #5
My other half NHvet Nov 13 #6
I don't know why it has to be either, most likely Bev54 Nov 13 #7
I agree, both PatSeg Nov 13 #13
I think there are a metric f***ton of crimes involved in addition to rape and trafficking. Pacifist Patriot Nov 13 #9
And the Epstein files are probably the motherlode PatSeg Nov 13 #14
I sure hope it makes the Blue Wave look like a fart in a bathtub. Pacifist Patriot Nov 13 #18
Well, considering who we're talking about, PatSeg Nov 13 #19
Always follow the money lindysalsagal Nov 13 #25
also human trafficking.nt. drray23 Nov 13 #26
I mentioned trafficking, but it certainly bears repeating! Pacifist Patriot Nov 14 #30
This is the perfect example of DaBronx Nov 13 #27
Trump is... GiqueCee Nov 13 #10
Correct. If TSF, Maga, and GOP ever admit to anything (such as merely knowing Epstein) it is because wiggs Nov 13 #12
Or foreign influence... damonm Nov 13 #15
Didn't a Democratic Senator angrychair Nov 13 #16
Senator Sheldon Whitehouse. summer_in_TX Nov 14 #29
Julius Seizure does everything for $$$. Hassler Nov 13 #17
And that my friends is why he never provided his tax returns MagickMuffin Nov 13 #20
Money laundering for Russian oligarchs was big part of trump and Epstein brands JT45242 Nov 13 #22
I heard Michael Wolff hinting that Trump might've provided (trafficked).... Dem4life1970 Nov 13 #23
It's long past time TommyT139 Nov 14 #28
I still wonder what happened to the children he had put in cages. NH Ethylene Nov 13 #24

KT2000

(21,833 posts)
2. Agree
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 04:28 PM
Nov 13

The wealthy pay big bucks to hide their use of girls and young women for sex. As Eric Weinstein has said, they can get any kind of sex they want but what they need is secrecy. I would like to know if the men who are in the files are sending money to trump - off shore of course, to keep things quiet. trump is essentially the owner of Epstein's business.

leftstreet

(38,461 posts)
3. There's something dodgy about MarALago mortgage
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 04:29 PM
Nov 13

From the emails, found on X:

"Have one of your cronys ask to see the mortgage to mara lago...cash from electricians union,, (his driver Matt was the bag man, later made an exec at the public co.) And the $30 million dollar loan from the casino to Donald Trump. Back dated." Epstein to his attorney, 2012.


Pretty interesting since Trump is yelling MORTGAGE FRAUD, MORTGAGE FRAUD on people lately.

Projecting again?

AllyCat

(18,382 posts)
4. That would be awesome if he was evicted
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 04:41 PM
Nov 13

Because he doesn’t own it. He could be homeless for a few weeks before we put him in jail.

MerryBlooms

(12,111 posts)
21. Its always projection with trump and republicans
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 06:57 PM
Nov 13

trump has never done a square deal in his life

Ocelot II

(128,386 posts)
5. That would have to be a paper case, to be investigated by forensic accountants.
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 04:46 PM
Nov 13

There's bound to be a paper trail, but a very complicated one involving layers of shell companies and real estate transactions, not relying so much on percipient witnesses.

NHvet

(266 posts)
6. My other half
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 05:48 PM
Nov 13

and I were just kibitzing the same thing. It's always about the money. Trump was/is knee-deep in Russian mob money and has been for years.

Bev54

(13,058 posts)
7. I don't know why it has to be either, most likely
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 05:51 PM
Nov 13

It is both with Trump and possibly a whole lot more!

PatSeg

(51,526 posts)
13. I agree, both
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 06:13 PM
Nov 13

Accusations of financial crimes don't seem to bother him all that much. They just roll off his back, but he's really sensitive about sex crimes. I don't know, maybe he hears the voice of his mother in his head, but he really gets ruffled when the subject comes up.

I remember that from the "golden showers" stories. The more vehemently he denies something, the more guilty he tends to be.

Pacifist Patriot

(25,182 posts)
9. I think there are a metric f***ton of crimes involved in addition to rape and trafficking.
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 05:58 PM
Nov 13

money laundering
black mail
espionage
theft
fraud
drugs
tax evasion
bribery

You name a crime, I bet it is involved in some way.

Pacifist Patriot

(25,182 posts)
18. I sure hope it makes the Blue Wave look like a fart in a bathtub.
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 06:48 PM
Nov 13

Sorry for the crudeness, I'm not in the best mood or shape right now.

GiqueCee

(3,067 posts)
10. Trump is...
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 06:00 PM
Nov 13

... an all-consuming evil in his own right, and up to his eyeballs in so many felonious transgressions that I'll bet even he doesn't know which ones will bring him down, so he lashes out an anything and everything. I just wish he'd die; I don't really care how.

wiggs

(8,591 posts)
12. Correct. If TSF, Maga, and GOP ever admit to anything (such as merely knowing Epstein) it is because
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 06:04 PM
Nov 13

they are covering up something worse. Sexual or economic..TSF's misdeeds know no limits. Sociopath.

damonm

(2,657 posts)
15. Or foreign influence...
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 06:29 PM
Nov 13

There was this email from Epstein, also...
Nearly a month before President Donald Trump met Russian leader Vladimir Putin in Helsinki in 2018, Jeffrey Epstein attempted to pass a message to Russia’s top diplomat: If you want to understand Trump, talk to me.

“I think you might suggest to putin that lavrov can get insight on talking to me,” Epstein wrote in a June 24, 2018, email to Thorbjorn Jagland, a former prime minister of Norway who was leading the Council of Europe at the time of the exchange. Lavrov was an apparent reference to Sergei Lavrov, Russia’s longtime foreign minister.

angrychair

(11,537 posts)
16. Didn't a Democratic Senator
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 06:37 PM
Nov 13

Find a bunch of SARs about Epstein moving money to accounts owned by Mango Mussolini?

Hassler

(4,674 posts)
17. Julius Seizure does everything for $$$.
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 06:39 PM
Nov 13

The rape is just a perk for him. He's neck deep in the Epstein Files

MagickMuffin

(18,015 posts)
20. And that my friends is why he never provided his tax returns
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 06:53 PM
Nov 13


I’m almost positive that is the reason he has been audited for over a decade.


JT45242

(3,757 posts)
22. Money laundering for Russian oligarchs was big part of trump and Epstein brands
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 07:12 PM
Nov 13

But there will be some sick shit with young girls.

Dem4life1970

(1,031 posts)
23. I heard Michael Wolff hinting that Trump might've provided (trafficked)....
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 07:19 PM
Nov 13

...underage girls to Epstein via his beauty pageant circuit. More evidence will come out.
The drip, drip, drip will continue...

TommyT139

(2,097 posts)
28. It's long past time
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 12:18 AM
Nov 14

For Michael Wolff to pick a side and stop hoarding irreplaceable evidence of crimes.

NH Ethylene

(31,265 posts)
24. I still wonder what happened to the children he had put in cages.
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 07:57 PM
Nov 13

When the time came for them to be sent home to their families, many were unaccounted for.

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