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Javaman

(64,949 posts)
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 02:27 PM Nov 13

I think if there is any doubt now left about whether or not the orange asshole

had epstein killed in prison, I would think a layer of that doubt has been removed.

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I think if there is any doubt now left about whether or not the orange asshole (Original Post) Javaman Nov 13 OP
He must have been terrified leftstreet Nov 13 #1
He deserved EVERY second of terror he experienced Stacey Grove Nov 13 #3
No, he deserved canetoad Nov 13 #5
I would have loved for him to have a trial and punishment Javaman Nov 13 #6
It wouldn't have been canetoad Nov 13 #7
No! Please stop! This NOT appropriate! stopdiggin Nov 13 #20
There is a hierarchy in prison Javaman Friday #25
No, sir. You are ADVOCATING stopdiggin Friday #27
lol nice try. Javaman Friday #29
And please 'peddle' your medieval notions of punishment elsewhere stopdiggin Friday #30
They mainly attack true pedo's Polybius Friday #32
There are others with motive too. But Trump had means and opportunity as well. Irish_Dem Nov 13 #2
Anyone here remember who the AG was then? vanlassie Nov 13 #12
Bill Barr BeerBarrelPolka Nov 13 #16
Oh! THAT's RIGHT! vanlassie Nov 13 #17
The Barr family had early links to Epstein. Irish_Dem Nov 13 #18
Correct BeerBarrelPolka Nov 13 #19
Didn't he go visit him in jail Tree Lady Friday #26
Yes this was the original report. Irish_Dem Friday #28
Although I've scoffed in the past canetoad Nov 13 #4
Do you mean the circumstances of her death? evolves Nov 13 #8
Yes canetoad Nov 13 #9
Thanks for clarifying and also evolves Nov 13 #14
I have thought her death very suspicious also. kentuck Nov 13 #10
Ivana's untimely death was sus AF too. Her NDA was about to expire. I contend that she was pushed. OMGWTF Nov 13 #15
Wow, I didnt know about the NDA. Joinfortmill Nov 13 #24
Just heard Michael Wolffe (yeah I know but anyway..) say in an interview that Epstein was very afraid of Trump Marie Marie Nov 13 #11
I don't know why I hear ANY discussion of Trump/Epstein without a caveat: "we know that TSF has been wiggs Nov 13 #13
Probably one of the top reasons Roberts gave him absolute immunity dalton99a Nov 13 #21
Trump can never be prosecuted for Epstein's murder dalton99a Nov 13 #22
Yup, I'd take that bet. Joinfortmill Nov 13 #23
I found it interesting when I heard a man in Paris who was involved in the trafficking with Epstein died in Vinca Friday #31

leftstreet

(38,443 posts)
1. He must have been terrified
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 02:34 PM
Nov 13

Not crying tears for his ass, but..

He was beat up in his cell just a few days after the arrest. Moved "for his safety." Suicides himself shortly after. Yeah right.....

July 6 to July 23, had to be a scary time for him

Javaman

(64,949 posts)
6. I would have loved for him to have a trial and punishment
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 03:29 PM
Nov 13

then allow the prison population do what they usually do to pedophiles.

stopdiggin

(14,753 posts)
20. No! Please stop! This NOT appropriate!
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 05:12 PM
Nov 13

Either the reality of such actions - or verbalizing wishes for its coming into being.

Way, way outside the lines ...
Are we next going to be cheering on torture .. ?

Javaman

(64,949 posts)
25. There is a hierarchy in prison
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 05:35 PM
Friday

pedo's are THE lowest for a reason.

I'm doing nothing more than stating the obvious.

stopdiggin

(14,753 posts)
27. No, sir. You are ADVOCATING
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 06:15 PM
Friday

And here are the words:
" .. then allow the prison population do what they usually do to pedophiles."

With plenty of implication of the appropriateness of the punishment ... And it is WRONG!

Polybius

(21,198 posts)
32. They mainly attack true pedo's
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 08:47 PM
Friday

The actual meaning of which is those attracted to pre-pubescent children.

Irish_Dem

(78,071 posts)
2. There are others with motive too. But Trump had means and opportunity as well.
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 02:46 PM
Nov 13

Evidence now points to Trump more strongly than ever.

Irish_Dem

(78,071 posts)
28. Yes this was the original report.
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 06:59 PM
Friday

But then later the report was conveniently scrubbed from the internet.

canetoad

(19,868 posts)
4. Although I've scoffed in the past
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 03:12 PM
Nov 13

I'm starting to have doubts about Virginia Andrews Guiffre as well.

It was extremely convenient for trump to have her say that he did absolutely nothing to her, a fact that seems to be contradicted by the emails.

canetoad

(19,868 posts)
9. Yes
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 03:41 PM
Nov 13

There was a lot of reporting about her (I'm in Oz) in the weeks leading up to her death - a dubious car accident with a school bus that turned out, according to several witnesses to be very minor.

She was taped covered in bruises and IMO speaking illogically. I've since found out that she had separated from her husband and he was violently abusing her. Other than that, it's really difficult to find out facts, ie the actual manner of death, husband's statement etc

She was also filmed acting irrationally - carrying large packs of alcohol and speaking as if inebriated, which was totally out of character. I hope this doesn't disappear down the memory hole - she deserves better.

evolves

(5,692 posts)
14. Thanks for clarifying and also
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 04:26 PM
Nov 13

for the additional information. I’d not heard about the things you mention.

kentuck

(114,961 posts)
10. I have thought her death very suspicious also.
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 03:44 PM
Nov 13

She had just written a book. She was getting attention for herself and the other victims. She had every right to feel that she was doing something right. There was no reason to think she would kill herself. She had everything to live for.

OMGWTF

(4,965 posts)
15. Ivana's untimely death was sus AF too. Her NDA was about to expire. I contend that she was pushed.
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 04:27 PM
Nov 13

She is quickly cremated, then it took TEN struggling men to lift the coffin containing her "cremated remains" that are buried in a makeshift grave at a golf course where the Saudis are hosting their fake golf tournament one week later and very shortly after that, Jerod gets $2B from the Saudis. BTW, her grave looks like sh!t now -- almost completely overgrown.

Marie Marie

(10,749 posts)
11. Just heard Michael Wolffe (yeah I know but anyway..) say in an interview that Epstein was very afraid of Trump
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 03:53 PM
Nov 13

and terrified about what Trump would do to him should he become President. Soooo....

wiggs

(8,585 posts)
13. I don't know why I hear ANY discussion of Trump/Epstein without a caveat: "we know that TSF has been
Thu Nov 13, 2025, 04:24 PM
Nov 13

found liable for sexual assault, has been credibly accused by 26 women of assault, owned a teen modeling firm and beauty pagent, has been credibly accused of walking into teen dressing rooms unannounced, has lied about being on Epstein's plane, has lied about his relationship with Epstein, wrote Epstein a birthday card about 'secrets', has gone to extreme lengths to cover up Epstein files, is convicted of fraud, is banned from operating a charitable organization because of illegal activites, and lies every single day that he is alive. Now...about the partial release of SOME of the Epstein files...."

Come on, man! Context!

Vinca

(53,056 posts)
31. I found it interesting when I heard a man in Paris who was involved in the trafficking with Epstein died in
Fri Nov 14, 2025, 08:33 PM
Friday

prison in a similar "suicide." Makes you wonder about Virginia Giuffre's death.

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