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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAs an ex-Catholic I never thought I would see this....from Pew.

https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2025/04/30/most-us-catholics-say-they-want-the-church-to-be-more-inclusive/pr_2025-04-30_catholics-views-of-church_0-01/
hlthe2b
(112,222 posts)Or at least not many who were more staunchly traditional. Still, I'm sure there are/have been regional and non-US variations that exist..
lapucelle
(20,892 posts)Theyve pretty much rejected everything that either pope has said after Pope Benedict.
Diamond_Dog
(39,217 posts)Although I rarely attend mass any more. Let me say this does NOT surprise me! Every woman friend I had used birth control and this was decades ago. When I was a child I used to hear my mother say they should let priests get married. And more recently with the shortage of priests I have heard from Catholic friends who say women should be allowed to at least be deacons.
kimbutgar
(26,513 posts)I had an ill fated first marriage and got married in the Catholic Church . The guy was a jerk and was physical at times towards me. I was too embarrassed and scared to tell my parents. The final straw was when he threatened my life and told me he married me for my money. I left him and moved back home to my parents house. I was so distraught I went to my church and met with a priest and he told me to forgive my husband and go back to him because I married him in church. That was it for me and the Catholic Church. 4 years later I remarried my current husband and my Mother said I received a piece of mail from the church. The ex was remarrying and wanted to annul the marriage because I took birth control ( I knew on the honeymoon I made a mistake and my mother always reminded me to take my birth control ) I had a good laugh reading those papers and they went into the garbage can!
The Catholic Church is so out of touch!
Diamond_Dog
(39,217 posts)That priest was full of crap about you should forgive your husband. Let *him* get abused and threatened and see how it feels.
My husband was married before me in a Catholic Church although he was not Catholic. He was divorced when we met. They had no children. We were told we couldnt get married in a Catholic Church unless there was an annulment and the process the way it was described to me sounded so lengthy and intrusive I said no way. That ended any involvement on my part in the church.
walkingman
(10,143 posts)A good example of people voting against their own interests. Loyalty to a group? Moral authority of the church?
Religion has long been as a political tool to manipulate public opinion.
hunter
(40,212 posts)There are parishes that lean Republican, some of them extremely so, and parishes that lean Democratic. Joe Biden is a good representative of Catholics in most of the places I've lived.
Almost forty years ago when my wife and I were attending our engagement encounter as a requisite for our Big Catholic Wedding it seemed at least half the people attending the natural family planning sessions were rolling their eyes and whispering among themselves as the sincere married couple leading the session bravely soldiered on.
I'm not surprised by this survey.
Permanut
(7,782 posts)but understand that if you fart in church you must sit in your own pew.
Just what I heard anyway.
niyad
(128,662 posts)Permanut
(7,782 posts)hard to keep up with those two.
niyad
(128,662 posts)niyad
(128,662 posts)our then-statewide diocese, "Why don't you celibate priests stay out of my bedroom?" I was excommunicated about the sme time, having been considerably more vocal, and far less polite (they had no clue I had already "left", only sticking around for the grand finale! ) .
NNadir
(36,967 posts)Our love life, pre and post marital, was wonderful, unimpeded by doctrine of any sort.
We didn't get married in a church, but as there was a blizzard underway, stopped off at a sleezy chapel in Lake Tahoe, where we were married by an obviously drunk "minister" of some sort or another, who if I recall mumbled something or another about Jesus.
My Catholic Father-in-law didn't approve of either me or our wedding, but by the time he went off into entropy, we grew to love one another.
niyad
(128,662 posts)knows there were more than a few!!! ) ?
NNadir
(36,967 posts)It was a long time ago. Just after Thankgiving we'll celebrate 40 years of marriage.
For a while she was unhappy about how it all came down, when my father-in-law shelled out big bucks for the weddings of two of her sisters. I retorted that it is better that the wedding sucked but the marriage was great than the other way around. One of them ended up despising her ex-husband privately while managing to remain civil "for the kids."
These 41 years (my count, since the day we moved in together is what matters to me) have made my life worth living. (It may not have been worth living before she entered it.) Just when I think I couldn't possibly love her more, I do.
My son loves the story of our wedding which he claims is worthy of a movie by his favorite director, Wes Anderson.
The flowers were plastic and she was wearing a leg brace from a skiing injury. The photographs taken by the Chapel owner on a Kodak disposable camera all came out with red eye.
It was classically tacky.
Over the years she's forgiven me for it. It's good for a laugh.
Javaman
(64,949 posts)I was brought up catholic and there was always a wink and a nod about birth control.
also, back in the 60's and 70's there was the imagined if not real divide between the American catholics and the European catholics.
ChicagoTeamster
(213 posts)Go to hell, go directly to hell, do not pass go, do not collect $200
Warpy
(114,235 posts)and are consistently more liberal than their Protestant neighbors. Surprise!
It's why I value the people but can't stand the Church.
FakeNoose
(39,590 posts)I'm a Boomer, I grew up in the 60s having gone to Catholic schools for most of my young life. My cohorts and I spent countless hours discussing these very topics, and of course we were all liberals politically and religiously. My thought has always been that US Catholics would have been a completely different - and better - church if they had allowed women into the priesthood by around 1970.
They didn't as we all know, and instead we had the priest-pedophiles which has led to all sorts of other problems. I don't have to tell you that so many former Catholics have now left the Church, and if it weren't for the Latino Catholic immigrants a lot of the older inner-city parishes would have already closed. As it is they are combining parishes because there aren't enough Catholics to sustain them financially.
All they had to do was start ordaining women into the priesthood. It would have solved 98% of their problems.
SocialDemocrat61
(6,491 posts)I'm not an ex-catholic. I'm a bad catholic. But most catholics that I know are fairly liberal. Always have been. Mainly democrats too. Yes there are conservative catholics but then there is Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi and AOC. Sometimes Catholics get lumped with evangelical christians because of abortion. But it's not really who the average catholic thinks.
Conjuay
(2,801 posts)Someone I've known for thirty years recently admitted he hasn't voted since Obama. When I questioned why, I got some sort of mumbled excuse, 'well I was raised Catholic.' (abortion is some sort of deal breaker, I guess)
I fairly certain he hasn't 'been to church' more than once this century, but Holly Rolling Catholic doctrine still got him by the guilt trip.
I will never understand the logic of statements like that.