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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThanks to Mitch McConnell, you can now say goodbye to legal THC products like Delta 9
MCCONNELL BURIED IT IN THE "RE-OPEN THE GOVERNMENT" BILL. TRUMP SIGNED IT, SO SAY GOODBYE TO LEGAL THC PRODUCTS.
The 2018 Farm Bill created a loophole for intoxicating THC to be sold in low doses, Carol Moss, a cannabis attorney for Hellmuth & Johnson, told Axios this week.
The shutdown deal would ban those THC products and also non-intoxicating CBD products, Moss said.
What they're saying: "The bill, as it now stands, overrides the regulatory frameworks of several states, cancels the collective decisions of hemp consumers and destroys the livelihoods of hemp farmers," Paul said on Senate the floor prior to the Tuesday vote.
"It couldn't come at a worse time for America's farmers."
https://www.axios.com/2025/11/12/government-shutdown-bill-thc-hemp-products
FoxNewsSucks
(11,467 posts)normal Americans one last time.
Miles Archer
(21,000 posts)I've purchased Delta 9 (and, on occasion, CBD products that didn't contain THC), and I've been getting one email after another from them saying "If this goes through, McConnell will put us all out of business."
And, he did. And he gave a boost to his Kentucky Whiskey mavens.
dem4decades
(13,426 posts)leftstreet
(38,461 posts)dem4decades
(13,426 posts)oasis
(53,209 posts)Greg_In_SF
(725 posts)the Farm Bill, CBD, THC, or Hemp in the bill, that I can find.
Miles Archer
(21,000 posts)...and the ones I found were all consistent. I haven't seen the bill that actually got signed today so I'm going by what I see in the news.
Every source also said there would be a one year grace period but I have no idea when companies would stop selling products. Day 1? Day 364? Who knows.
a kennedy
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Ilsa
(63,624 posts)There are times when I need his behavior to be really chill, and Delta-8 is the only way to do it. I don't give it to him every day; maybe once every two or three weeks because using builds tolerance.
Warpy
(114,235 posts)both the production of CBD products and straight hemp products, the oil, fiber and pulp products.
TCH has never been exactly legal in the US but some states have decriminalized it as a meication and for recreational use.
I sincerely hope this particular bit of ignorant right wing jackassery will be overturned when the new Congress is seated, In any case, the words "in psychoactive quantities" should have been added to "TCH" in that bill. I blame every single other Senator on both sides of the aisle for being that fucking ignorant.
Blue Full Moon
(3,027 posts)Is taking a beating. Canadians boycotting. Americans would rather get high instead of sick from drinking.
Bluesaph
(1,014 posts)I know this first hand. And the way its marketed as not being THC is deceptive when it behaves as THC.
I hate MM but have wanted more education about the risks out there for years and its too late. Too much disinformation to reverse. So I hope it is outlawed. A lot of psychotic homeless teens could have been saved.
UniqueUserName
(392 posts)The authoritarian party that wants to tell you what to do with your body is the Republican Party.
This argument of yours merely wants to change the party of who tells everyone what they can to do.
I do agree with you that people should be educated on the effects of psychoactive substances. I am not a libertarian. It is not an oxymoron to support a person's bodily autonomy and social safety nets.
Bluesaph
(1,014 posts)Kids will not be educated on everything out there. They just wont. I dont want heroin out there sold at smoke shops either.
Blues Heron
(8,068 posts)Lots of livers could be saved
Bluesaph
(1,014 posts)Blues Heron
(8,068 posts)Response to Blues Heron (Reply #34)
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UniqueUserName
(392 posts)What you're advocating is a false equivalence. Children do not have the same rights as adults until the age of majority.
I am not opposed to the current sliding scale for the age of majority. For instance, a young person can typically drive at 16; they can vote at 18; in many states (or most) they can own real property at 21.
Do you also believe children should be protected from seeing gay people kiss? Ban all porn and sex toys because a child might possibly see it and become addicted? Do you believe that most activities adults might engage in should be highly regulated to protect kids from some amorphous, ubiquitous Bogeyman?
Intractable
(1,413 posts)Smoking pot destroyed my nephew's life. He liked it so much, he preferred it to his wife, his three very young children, and his job.
He lost them all.
He's in a mental hospital now. He's sane enough that he could get out. It seems he doesn't want to. I think it's because there's nothing for him in the real world.
There's much to be said for medical MJ. It's terrific for dealing with anxiety, insomnia, and nausea, for some people most of the time.
Bluesaph
(1,014 posts)I loved laying on the beach high on edibles. I used to sneak my stiizy in my luggage when traveling on vacation.
And then I saw how it affected three loved ones. They didnt know they had latent schizophrenia. The THC triggered the psychosis and none of the three have their lives back. One is dead to suicide.
The one thing is decriminalizing and making thc only available in specific circumstances. But we are talking about Delta 9 which markets as non THC yet does the exact same thing and is sold in smoke shops in any town.
Thats what I dont agree with. It should not be available so readily and deceptively.
Bluesaph
(1,014 posts)Propellor who get addicted to THC report they cant get off because they get anxiety. The anxiety it once alleviated is now so severe that they cant get off because they suffer debilitating side effects. Two of my daughters have this issue. They cannot stop smoking and their spouses dont like it. But every time they try they get debilitating anxiety which even prevents them from going to work and being good moms. So they continue to be dependent on it.
Todays weed aint the same as our weed!
Qutzupalotl
(15,601 posts)at gas stations and convenience stores. Regulated sales are those at state-licensed dispensaries, where they check I.D. Those would not be affected, if I am reading this right.
Miles Archer
(21,000 posts)The "unregulated / gas station" products were the RATIONALE for this, but McConnell's solution is to make it ALL illegal.
There are multiple articles on this...most of them clearly state that CBD products...which are NOT "THC" products like Delta 9...would also become illegal.
People keep locking in to the "gas station" thing but it's bigger and broader than that. It's ALL hemp products.
Qutzupalotl
(15,601 posts)Another major component of the bill is a targeted restriction on where intoxicating hemp-derived products can be sold. If implemented:
-Delta-8 THC, delta-10 THC, and other intoxicating hemp-derived cannabinoids would be banned from convenience stores, gas stations, and online platforms.
- Sales would be limited to regulated environments, likely similar to state-licensed cannabis dispensaries.
This approach mirrors how some states already manage intoxicating hemp items, moving them out of general retail and into controlled channels. For customers, this would mean fewer points of access. For retailers, especially small convenience stores, it would represent a steep revenue loss. And for manufacturers, the new restrictions would force packaging, marketing, and distribution changes across the board.
Miles Archer
(21,000 posts)I lived in Colorado for a year, I went to dispensaries. People who are legally able to buy pre-rolls and flower and edibles are NOT GOING TO BUY a Delta 9 gummy with 3% or less THC.
https://www.marijuanamoment.net/congress-passes-bill-to-recriminalize-hemp-thc-products-sending-it-to-trumps-desk/
The link above states "the ban will apply even to nonintoxicating CBD products that people use for medical reasons."
and, once again, "gas stations" are CITED as the JUSTIFICATION and RATIONALE for this, but the "solution" is
People keep misinterpreting this, thinking the only thing that's going to happen is that you won't be able to buy gummies at gas stations.
The bill REVERSES the 2018 Farm bill, which made hemp products with less than 3% THC legal. THEY WILL NO LONGER BE LEGAL.
Qutzupalotl
(15,601 posts)So the 2018 Farm Bill had nothing to do with state dispensaries.
Miles Archer
(21,000 posts)This will be the LAST STATE in the United States to legalize it.
I HAVE SEEN legislation that KEEPS GETTING VOTED DOWN for MEDICAL marijuana (RECREATIONAL has NEVER been considered)
You basically have to be on your way out to qualify. Stage 4 cancer was one of the conditions listed. And THAT legislation gets voted down EVERY time it comes up.
You go to a weed doc in Colorado and say "I'm stressed" or "My tummy hurts" and you get rubber-stamped for a "Red Card." Here, they don't give a shit if you're dying. They don't want you tripping FOR ANY REASON, because THIS is the land of Budweiser and BBQ and they'd rather have you become an obese alcoholic because the state gets rich off of it. They don't want to have to set up new regulations in a new industry when they don't have to lift a finger for the cash to keep flowing in.
I "used to" live in Colorado. I now live in the south, where...according to Jeff Sessions..."good people don't smoke marijuana." People in my town get busted every week for having stash houses filled with weed, Oxy, Fentanyl, crack, and automatic weapons.
Anyway...people aren't reading these articles all the way through. This is NOT a campaign to end lab-created knock-off THC products sold in gas stations.
This will REVERSE the FARM BILL so that ALL CBD / THC products previously made "legal" in that bill will now be ILLEGAL.
Qutzupalotl
(15,601 posts)That is, hemp products sold over the counter in unregulated settings. This will not affect dispensaries, which are heavily regulated. Sorry you don't live in Colorado anymore.
ColoringFool
(109 posts)Intractable
(1,413 posts)It's a Brave New World of peaceful drug addicts.
The Alphas keep the people (Betas, Gammas, ...) in line by providing the drug Soma free for all.
Pot is a weak form of the fabled Soma.
Blues Heron
(8,068 posts)Intractable
(1,413 posts)The Beatles big thing was LSD. No Magical Mystery Tour without it!
Blues Heron
(8,068 posts)keep_left
(3,119 posts)...of the "soft secession" blue-state policies. Who knows if that will be a portent of something more calamitous in the future.
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Jilly_in_VA
(13,559 posts)I rely on that stuff to help me sleep. I get it from a place in Indiana via mail order. I hope this doesn't shut them down.
BBbats
(268 posts)They're pretty disappointed that people aren't getting thrown in prison for weed anymore.