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drray23

(8,516 posts)
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 08:04 PM Nov 12

Hr 4405. Epstein files transparency act.

Last edited Wed Nov 12, 2025, 10:04 PM - Edit history (1)

This is the bill that Johnson will have to put on the floor after the discharge petition passed, thanks to our newly sworn-in rep. Adelita Grijalva.

You can find the text here :

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/4405

I just want to preempt the incoming DU meltdown. It would appear many people here are under the impression that all it takes is a house vote for the files to be released.

Unfortunately, it's a bill, so it has to pass the Senate too. Good luck with that, assuming Thune even puts it up on the Senate floor.
Assuming he does, we will have to get 61 votes.

Assuming we do that, Trump will veto it, and now we need 2/3 of both houses to override it.

There is zero chance this happens.

The only positive I see is that it is in the news and keeps the pressure on Trump. Hopefully, this will cause enough MAGA to not vote for the GOP in 2026.

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Hr 4405. Epstein files transparency act. (Original Post) drray23 Nov 12 OP
And hopefully there is a lot of leakage. jeffreyi Nov 12 #1
Yes indeed. drray23 Nov 12 #2
not to mention lapfog_1 Nov 12 #3
That is an angle i had not thought about. drray23 Nov 12 #4
Also, if it gets stalled in the Senate or anywhere, someone may choose to leak the files instead. beaglelover Nov 12 #5
Thats my hope. drray23 Nov 12 #6
Do you know what Trump would look like if he vetoed it? underpants Nov 12 #7
That is what we can hope for. drray23 Nov 12 #8
I don't think it was ever about passing the bill. It's about ... Whiskeytide Nov 12 #9

lapfog_1

(31,452 posts)
3. not to mention
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 08:09 PM
Nov 12

"all unclassified records, documents, communications, and investigative materials"

What do you want to bet that all of a sudden quite a bit of stuff suddenly becomes "classified"

drray23

(8,516 posts)
4. That is an angle i had not thought about.
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 08:10 PM
Nov 12

Instead of falsifying the documents they can just classify it all for national security purpose...

beaglelover

(4,387 posts)
5. Also, if it gets stalled in the Senate or anywhere, someone may choose to leak the files instead.
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 08:11 PM
Nov 12

drray23

(8,516 posts)
6. Thats my hope.
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 08:13 PM
Nov 12

Somebody could also give it to a senator or congress person to have them read it on the senate or house floor. Senators and reps are protected by the debate clause from any repercussions.

underpants

(193,959 posts)
7. Do you know what Trump would look like if he vetoed it?
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 08:16 PM
Nov 12

Let’s see if it even passes the House. Even then people have to put their names on it.

drray23

(8,516 posts)
8. That is what we can hope for.
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 08:18 PM
Nov 12

It's a good way to put pressure on Trump and GOP but I don't expect it will directly trigger the release of the files. We may start getting leaks.

Whiskeytide

(4,616 posts)
9. I don't think it was ever about passing the bill. It's about ...
Wed Nov 12, 2025, 08:18 PM
Nov 12

… making republicans go on the record opposing the release. It’s valuable campaign fodder.

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