Does not understand symmetry.
Shocker.

No way Pennsylvania voted got McCormick.

The statistics are out there.

In the battleground states on election day, Krasnov had surges in the battleground states. What are the odds that Krasnov only received surges in battleground states but did not in any other state?

We need hard looks at the battleground States, if we can prove the election was dishonest and take over
the White House SNAP and other problems would disappear.

Hell we should offer a $10 million dollar reward to any Musk employee who'll rat him out.

In 2024, Trump gained in every urban precinct over what Biden had done in 2020. Of course, it wasn't generally noticed because where Biden won by 89-11, Harris won by 81-19. Where Biden won by 84-16, Harris won by 79-21, etc. Huge wins for sure. But scrape enough votes in heavily Democratic precincts and you can steal a swing state unnoticed.

There's simply no way Harris underperformed Biden in urban districts in a heavily Democratic city.
Trump cried enough about a "stolen 2020" that when Elon actually stole 2024, folks didn't say a word.

He wasn't shot.
He didn't win.
He's on the list.

Thank you!!

which is part of the reason that this type of, "no way did this happen" or "I simply do not believe" argument falls flat.

That is all.

So last Tuesday's elections mattered.

Good summary.

They are scientists and they are demanding the receipts. They have pointed out an interesting pattern that showed up in all f the swing states. I believe that was in the tabulation of the votes.

Even if the election is proven dishonest, we don't "take over." Trump was duly elected by the electors of the electoral college (regardless of whether the data behind them was fraudulent), and Trump would remain president. There's no mechanism by which Harris would become president.

But, I think it’s so important to investigate anyway, so people will know the truth and we can figure out ways to stop it from happening going forward.

How do we make sure this doesn't happen again?

Remember that they own the election machines now.

abdicating their role.

...that regardless of what election irregularities may be discovered, they will not result in Trump being replaced by Harris (or any Dem).

I have said all along - someone out there has the "receipts".

My Heart won't let me consider the possibility that many Americans could be such ASSHOLES.They have supplanted any
They've done a great job of manipulating and rigging the system.
The mind boggles at the notion of how much good could be achieved if he gave enough of a shit about doing good for the People instead of himself and his cronies.

Maybe someone should start something like a go fund me page.
I’m in for $500.

But I guess it's easier to be removed for breaking the following rule: No kooky, extremist, or hate content.

And why is it shocking that if Trump received 853 more votes than pure party registration would imply, that other candidates combined to not have those 853 votes? It's a zero sum vote.

Has there ever been a 100% turnout, anywhere? Even if there was 100% turnout, the stats point out anomalies that need to be addressed.

But now I did and shockingly, they aren't accurate. 71,345 votes were recorded. And while 80% turnout is high, given the national turnout was 65%, obviously there is fluctuation to get to an average of 65 so some will be higher than others, and given Pennsylvania was a swing state with a Senate election as well, that doesn't seem implausible. And the number of votes was similar for the 2020 presidential election at 70,574.

https://www.electionreturns.pa.gov/general/countyresults?countyName=CAMBRIA&ElectionID=105&ElectionType=G&IsActive=0

https://www.electionreturns.pa.gov/general/countyresults?countyName=CAMBRIA&ElectionID=83&ElectionType=G&IsActive=0

As for their claim about the number of votes going down, that's perfectly normal. Republicans tried to use that same thing in 2020 and it was laughed out of court.

https://apnews.com/article/why-election-results-change-18343a391f9ccd143f4c0189d6bcd31e

Thanks for looking all that up!

Averages rarely come out to 100% and voting in any place at 100% happens in plces like ruzzia, Cuba and other authoritarian regimes. He has stated that he wants that here, too.

Fuck that noise.

Paste your text there and ask for "new paste"
Grab the URL it hands you.

I like the raw format.

If sentences are squashed into one in your email, then go to
https://sentencesplitter.com/

And have it split into sentences, then go to pastebin.

On Election Night, State Rep Frank Burns reported watching his own vote totals decrease in real time

....officials say roughly 65,000 ballots had to be “duplicated” by poll workers onto newly printed ballots
instead of being hand-counted.

65.000 ballots out of 88,508 voters, that's 73% of all ballots had small printing errors? Things don't add up.

I think I subscribe to them. Have to check my email.

Although, there were plenty of us who knew things were hinky on election night. Their data just affirms our observations.

How does your editing get around the fact that there's nothing that supports their claim of 100% turnout on the official Pennsylvania election website?

How do your edits impact that there's nothing that means a registered Democrat or independent can vote for a Republican? How do your edits impact that obviously if Trump got their claimed 800 something votes that there's a corresponding equal drop in votes for other candidates given you can only vote for one candidate per race?

This is not the only group pointing out irregularities that showed up in all the swing States. One of the
first I remember reading was when Reagan won 49 States in 1980, there was forty some counties that
flipped red to blue, in the 2024 election there was no red to blue flipping only blue to red.

Every election there is always counties that flip both directions.

Please explain to everybody how IQ4.7 suddenly became so well liked and loved after Biden beat his ass.

You haven't actually pointed to anything that supports the claim where those of us pointing out the claims are false can cite our evidence.

Trump didn't become popular and loved. His approval rating hasn't changed much since 2016. He won because we became less popular.

90% of counties moved more Republican in 2024, which given our increased partisan geographic divide, it's not surprising that we didn't see any counties going blue. We live in areas that are far more red or blue than we used to.

went through Musk's computers in the cloud? Do you trust him?

Surely nobody would think to check the local numbers with the state numbers. But unfortunately conspiracy theories get to this point when all the evidence disputes the claim, that it boils down to refusing to believe anything other than the conspiracy.

……to their website. Their statistical analysis of tabulation in real time, over all of the swing states is interesting. I was skeptical, but they appeared sane to me.

They are grifters.

Should have been enough. Not to mention tRump admitted it twice.

Now we're getting all the evidence we need to put him where he belongs.

Musk said, " Anything can be hacked." The Indian EVMs are secure and isolated from from any network or media.
Trump at the pre-inauguration rally gave a shout out to Musk and the voting computers in PA. "He journeyed to Pennsylvania, where he spent a month and a half campaigning for me in Pennsylvania, and he's a popular guy. He was very effective." "And he knows computers better than anyone. All those computers. Those voting counting computers (tabulators). And we ended up winning Pennsylvania like in a landslide. So, it was pretty good, pretty good. So, thank you Elon."
Jimmy Carter and James Baker the chairs of the Commission on Federal Election Reform issued a report that found: "The greater threat to most systems is not from external hackers but from insiders who have direct access to the machines. Software can be modified maliciously before being installed into individual voting machines. There is no reason to trust insiders in the election industry any more than in other industries such as gambling,where sophisticated insider fraud has occurred despite extraordinary measures to prevent it."
Trump Taj Mahal casino broke anti-money laundering rules 106 times in it's first year and a half. The money was being paid out to Russians and not reported. The 1998 settlement was the largest fine the federal government ever slapped on a casino for violating the Bank Secrecy Act. Used slot machines.(Trump should have went to jail over that.) Ivanka got EVMs from China as part of her trademark deals. Schematics and programs included.
2024 Tina Peters sentenced to 9 years in prison. She allowed a man to misuse a security card to access the Mesa County election system and being deceptive about the man's identity. The man was affiliated with Mike Lindell. Mike Lindell testified in court that he had bought program to hack the elections. (There's no way that this was an isolated case.)

If anyone wants to look at the actual voting results, rather than conspiracy theory nonsense, here is the link. Warning: You'll have to deal with actual numbers that ruin your preconceptions if you click the link.

https://www.electionreturns.pa.gov/general/countyresultsvm?officeId=1&districtId=1&ElectionID=105&ElectionType=G&IsActive=0&countyName=CAMBRIA&districtName=Statewide

There were 71136 votes case in the county, not 88508, so you can already toss out one of the central points of the entire OP, of 100% turnout. That's an 80% turnout. And that is even assuming the 88508 number of registered voters the OP gives is even accurate.

drumpf getting 853 more votes than "GOP mail in votes requested" is nothing remarkable it all. It just means some Democrats voted for drumpf. Is that really so hard to believe?

If they can't even get the vote total right, do you even believe any of the other numbers they are giving you?

had nothing to do with IQ4.7 winning?

the poster went straight to the state elections website for factual information.

This is devolving into schoolyard chanting ...
And that really doesn't make for 'proof'

This is not the only group pointing out irregularities that showed up in all the swing States. One of the
first I remember reading was when Reagan won 49 States in 1980, there was forty some counties that
flipped red to blue, in the 2024 election there was no red to blue flipping only blue to red.

Every election there is always counties that flip both directions.

Please explain to everybody how IQ4.7 suddenly became so well liked and loved after Biden beat his ass.

Harris wasn't willing or able to distance herself from Biden, and the election became a referendum on Biden's presidency.

percentage breakdowns between the Republican and Democratic candidates as the Presidential vote. Having grown up in neighboring Blair county, I'm well aware of Cambria County. It used to be a Democratic stronghold but is now one of the most right wing counties in the entire state. There are thousands of registered Democrats who have likely not voted for a Democrat in decades.

This is not the only group pointing out irregularities that showed up in all the swing States. One of the
first I remember reading was when Reagan won 49 States in 1980, there was forty some counties that
flipped red to blue, in the 2024 election there was no red to blue flipping only blue to red.

Every election there is always counties that flip both directions.

Please explain to everybody how IQ4.7 suddenly became so well liked and loved after Biden beat his ass.

and the ETA is total bullshit. I guarantee their lawsuit will go nowhere because there is no basis for it. I just hope you and others here have not given them any money. Because that is their sole reason for existence. To grift money off of unsuspecting people who just can't accept the true results of an election.

lost by less than 1%, while Jill Stein received 1% in everyone of those critical swing states. It didn't take much.

In 2024 among Hispanic voters trump battled to near parity. He also won 15% of African American voters, and did better among Asian voters. A similar pattern followed American Muslim voters which make up a significant portion in states like Michigan and Wisconsin, plus add to that those anti-Israeli protesters.

And the polls reflected all of that before the actual election in 2024.

The harsh reality is that there are a lot of ill-informed voters in this country, who listen to the likes of Joe Rogan and right wing radio.

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2025/06/26/behind-trumps-2024-victory-a-more-racially-and-ethnically-diverse-voter-coalition/

Of course people can believe what they want whether it is factual or not.

As for Election Truth Alliance, it has only been around since 2024, so it doesn't have much of a track record.

In addition, "evidence" is not the same as "proof", and while their analysis may raise questions, until actual audits are done publicly and verified, their points need to be regarded with caution.

I need to see peer review, transparency of data, and independent corroboration before I accept their claims.

This is not the only group pointing out irregularities that showed up in all the swing States. One of the
first I remember reading was when Reagan won 49 States in 1980, there was forty some counties that
flipped red to blue, in the 2024 election there was no red to blue flipping only blue to red.

Doesn't that seem odd?

Every election there is always counties that flip both directions.

Please explain to everybody how IQ4.7 suddenly became so well liked and loved after Biden beat his ass.

administration.

If you ever watched a press conference the disrespect that the press afforded President Biden was a disgrace. They were like animals.

Most of the same media are now bowing before the sociopath in the white house.

But

I could compromise by suggesting just the top two federal races get hand counted

Keeping precincts smaller than 1500 voters and some honor roll 4th graders could handle it

shy of the threshold for a recount....just barely.

Donald Trump won Arizona by 5.5%, ten times the automatic recount margin.

Trump won Georgia by 2.20% over four times the margin which allows a defeated candidate to request a recount.

Trump won Michigan by 80,103 votes, 78,103 votes more than the automatic recount margin.

Trump won Pennsylvania by 1.71% over three times the automatic recount margin.

In Nevada and North Carolina, there are no automatic recount margins but any defeated candidate could ask for one, but they didn’t.

In Wisconsin, Trump won by 0.86% over three times the automatic recount margin but less than the 1% margin that allows a defeated candidate to request a recount should they choose.

Musk was deleting and flipping votes and Peter Thiel’s Palantir was running a clean up program
called “digital janitor” that hid the evidence of those flips and deletions.

Thanks, Botany

Every glitch, every error, every deletion of votes or deletion from voter rolls, every roadblock to
voting, every hanging chad, every anomaly in the numbers, every down ballot win by a democrat
but loss @ the top of ticket, every result that defies logic such as where were all the pro choice
voters in 2024?, and … helped the Republicans.

A bell shaped curve should show an equal distribution on both sides but none could be seen in
those results.

Trump has cheated his way through life, of course he would cheat on the most important, most significant venture in his life. The evidence is there, but some choose not to see it or believe it.

Republicans cheat it is in their DNA.

Paul Weyrich … founder of the Heritage Foundation. 1980 or 1981 to a Reagan Group

How many of our Christians have what I call the goo-goo syndrome: good government? They want everybody to vote. I don't want everybody to vote. Elections are not won by a majority of people. They never have been from the beginning of our country, and they are not now. As a matter of fact, our leverage in the elections quite candidly goes up as the voting populace goes down.

We'll see where this one goes. There are also lawsuits in Florida, etc.

It looks like 30 % of the voting machines didn’t get tested (according to the county clerk’s paperwork)

And the testing that gets done is by the voting machine company (fox guard hen house sort of thing)

Lots more new info

Wow. What a shocker!

It is more likely the converse is true.

The number of Republicans who requested mail-in ballots would not likely match up to votes for Trump. Nowadays MANY Republicans do not vote for Trump. Many of them are even vocal about it.

.... to find people making up their own mind about who they will vote for!

If you think such a crime has been committed you are going to need more than this to show probable cause. Much, much more.

I remain doubting malaise since that day

Doubting Peggysue.

On Thursday, November 6, 2025, the Election Truth Alliance filed its first lawsuit in Pennsylvania seeking to compel a hand-count audit of the 2024 General Election.

The complaint asserts that late-stage software changes, documented testing failures, ballot-handling irregularities, and statistically anomalous voting patterns in Cambria, Erie, and Allegheny Counties collectively deprived voters of their constitutional right to cast a ballot and have it counted accurately.

The suit follows months of efforts to persuade Secretary of the Commonwealth Al Schmidt to authorize an independent third-party hand-count audit, backed by a petition signed by more than 45,000 Pennsylvania voters.


Cambria County Chaos

The latest in a growing list of election-integrity concerns in Pennsylvania comes from Cambria County, where local reporting suggested the county had “trended blue” on Election Day, when in fact the vote totals show the opposite.

As with other counties under review, ETA’s investigation uncovered multiple irregularities that raise serious questions about the accuracy of Cambria’s reported results.

Discrepancies in Mail-In Ballot Reporting:

Cambria County had a total 88,508 registered voters

The state’s 7:00 pm Daily Mail Ballot Report showed 15,258 mail-in ballots received.

The county’s official results list only 15,022. That leaves 236 ballots unaccounted for—ballots that were not rejected or cancelled. They just disappeared.

The 8:00 pm Act 88 report showed 15,121 mail-in ballots received, a difference of 99 votes from the official total.

So the 7:00 pm to 8:00 pm numbers decreased? “Weird.”

But wait—it gets worse.
The 7:00 p.m. report shows 16,827 mail-in ballots were requested. The 8:00 p.m. Act 88 report shows 15,121 were returned. A difference of 1,706 ballots.

Democrats returned 7,596 ballots and Republicans returned 6,475, yet the official results credit Donald Trump with 7,328 mail-in votes—853 more than the number of Republican ballots returned. Meanwhile, Kamala Harris and the third-party candidates show a combined deficit of 853 votes—a perfectly symmetrical loss. A difference of 1,706 ballots.

Yes, you read that correctly: Donald Trump received 853 more mail-in votes than the number of Republican ballots returned, while Kamala Harris and all other candidates received precisely 853 less equaling 1,706 ballots, a perfect mathematical swing.

But wait—there’s more.
When added to provisional and Election Day ballots, the totals equal exactly 88,508—the precise number of registered voters in the county, implying a 100% participation rate.

This isn’t just a statistical red flag, it’s a five alarm fire.


State Rep Frank Burns Would Like a Word

On Election Night, State Rep Frank Burns reported watching his own vote totals decrease in real time—an anomaly state officials later dismissed as a “glitch.”

Although Burns ultimately won his race, it became clear that Cambria County experienced a major breakdown in its ballot-scanning process. Burns filed multiple Right-to-Know requests seeking clarity on how many ballots failed to scan and how many replacement ballots were issued.

He also criticized the county commissioners’ plan to lead an investigation into their own conduct, noting that they serve on the Election Board and oversee the staff involved. As Burns put it, relying on such an internal review “makes no sense whatsoever. We all know how that type of ‘internal investigation’ will end.”

“I won my election—but that’s not what matters here. Everyone deserves to know exactly what happened, so there can be accountability for such a huge systemic failure. How can machines that the commission chairman says were tested prior to the election and apparently working properly suddenly fail to scan ballots on Election Day—not just in one or two precincts, but across the entirety of Cambria County?”

The Cambria County commissioners initially claimed they did not have to comply with any portion of Rep. Burns’s Right-to-Know Law request that was framed as a question. Burns appealed, and in June 2025 he won—forcing the county to produce the required records. Yet despite that ruling, the matter remains unresolved: How and why did ballot scanners across Cambria County suddenly fail on Election Day?
Duplication of 65,000 Election Day Ballots

Cambria County’s Election Day ballot handling raised even more concerns. Because of a so-called printing error—reminiscent of Florida in 2000—officials say roughly 65,000 ballots had to be “duplicated” by poll workers onto newly printed ballots instead of being hand-counted.

In practice, this meant poll workers filled out new ballots on voters’ behalf, which were then scanned into the system. Although this process is technically court-approved, it raises an obvious question: why not hand-count the originals? Instead, the duplication process introduced multiple opportunities for error and significantly weakened the chain of custody.

County officials claimed Deputy Sheriffs delivered the replacement ballots directly to each precinct. However, ETA-obtained livestream footage from November 5 shows poll workers and volunteers packaging ballots in unsealed boxes and envelopes, indicating far looser handling than the county publicly reported.

The county later confirmed that every Election Day ballot was duplicated—even though same-day reporting shows the new ballots were delivered by 1 p.m., and officials acknowledged there were no further scanner issues after that time. This raises an unresolved question: Why were ballots that scanned properly still duplicated and re-scanned?

When ETA filed a Right-to-Know request for records documenting ballot issuance, spoilage, unused ballots, and destroyed ballots—as required by Pennsylvania law—the county could not produce any of the records.

Brass tacks in Cambria County:

Missing ballots

Conflicting official vote total reports

Perfectly symmetrical mathematical swings

65,000 ballots duplicated

Gaps in legally required chain-of-custody records

100% registered voter turnout per their math

The unexplained discrepancies in Cambria County’s ballot totals, along with the anomalous patterns and irregularities identified in other Pennsylvania counties, raise significant questions that cannot be resolved without transparent records and an independent audit.

Additionally, the county’s heavy reliance on ballot duplication—paired with its inability to produce legally required documentation—further undermines confidence in the accuracy of the reported results. We will continue to report on this lawsuit as it progresses.



In other news, Democrats cleaned house on November 4 and Elon is out here on Beyonce’s internet talking about rabbits and a hat.

Bonus: SpaceX is close to securing a $2 billion contract to build Trump’s Golden Dome. It’s probably fine. Nothing to see here, right? Well—aside from the statistically absurd 2024 election data in the swing states. Democratic Party legislators, what are we even doing right now? Can we talk? Asking for a few million friends.


What We Can Do Together

You can: join us and The Common Coalition on 11/22 for “Remove the Regime,” as we meet with legislators to “Take the data to D.C.!”

You can: support the Election Truth Alliance as they advance their newly filed lawsuit in Pennsylvania.

You can: circulate The Common Coalition Report and this Substack series to everyone and ask them to do the same. It’s up to us, We the People are the media now.

Hold on to your hope. There are more of us than there are of them. This is not left vs. right—it’s bottom vs. top. Again, we don’t need permission to enforce the Constitution. We just need courage.



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Maybe when the law suit is NOT thrown out for insufficient evidence, more people will believe there's something to this. I sure hope so.

There is no basis for it. It's complete bullshit.

This is not the only group pointing out irregularities that showed up in all the swing States. One of the
first I remember reading was when Reagan won 49 States in 1980, there was forty some counties that
flipped red to blue, in the 2024 election there was no red to blue flipping only blue to red.

Isn't that a little odd?

Every election there is always counties that flip both directions.

Please explain to everybody how IQ4.7 suddenly became so well liked and loved after Biden beat his ass.

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and not speculation based on fake data. In the meantime, the people at the ETA are laughing all the way to the bank.

I honestly never thought I'd see the same MAGA arguments from 2020 being made by "Democrats" about 2024, but here we are. It really is quite sad.

He uses his name and is following through to find out what is going on…. Are you calling him a liar?

I responded to a ludicrous claim that seeing numbers on the TV changing being evidence of fraud with evidence of why it's not.

Sorry if I don't believe in conspiracy theories that don't pass the laugh test.

Who requested the proper documentation from the election board, they refused his request, he took them to court and won but still has no explanation as to why many machines across several precincts stopped counting votes


And if you don’t think that remaking 65,000 ballots , isn’t worth investigating, whatever

But if you want to play this cute game, then aren't you "trash talking" Democratic officials all over the country by saying they are either incapable of seeing the fraud or complicit in it? Because the elections are supervised by local officials including Democrats and all of the standard audits were done and nothing other than a handful of people voting for their dead parent have been found.

That officials won’t even produce the paperwork for…. You trying to switch the narrative that I should “trust “ my betters….

🤮

I explained a thing that is very common, you accused me of smearing a Democrat, I explained that wasn't what I was doing, then you jumped to hand counting ballots and accused me of changing the narrative. I'm literally just responding to what you're posting. I'm not the one changing the discussion, just following where you lead.

It you listen to the video at post # 14 you would realize certifying machines before elections didn’t get done 30% of the time by their records, yet you pretend everything is done by the book when the simplest most basic safeguards are not used

if the SCOTUS allows IQ4.7 to stay in the White House.

Musk and Thiel.

This was a billionaire coup. This government is NOT legitimate. We are now being taxed WITHOUT REPRESENTATION.

And our party, the party that we trust, did nothing. They caved in just like with this latest Senate vote. They KNEW and they did NOTHING.

In short, 65 billionaires have been let loose on the treasury and they have gotten massive tax cuts AND huge government contracts. In the meantime our middle class is getting fucked every which way but loose.

WHEN will our party wake up and fight back like Newsom and Pritzer? Because the D governor is my state is a limp noodle who seems to be scared of Trump.

Seven million Americans hit the streets on Oct 18. Americans HATE what is happening. They hate it. And yet the Democrats in Congress, with a few exceptions are just going on with business as usual because these big institutionalist Dems? If their donors are happy, then they seem to be. Tell me I'm wrong here. Because I'm not seeing our minority in Congress fighting back for shit. This Senate vote yesterday was BULLSHIT because we got NOTHING. The GOP conceeded NOTHING. NOTHING. They gave away their power just like we have expected foreign governments to yield to our economic warfare (Iran and many others), and now they are using the same playbook on us.

OUR government, that is supposed to be OF BY and FOR the people is now using economic warfare against the American people, and the Democrats in the Senate blinked. Republicans won because they were weak.

It is one of the things we can identify.

We can see the emoluments clause being violated out in the open.

What kind of corruption is going on behind the scenes, without us knowing?

This has never been a legitimate "presidency".

And right now, We the People are working our asses off to try and save Democracy because the Repugs in Congress have forgotten they took an oath to the Constitution.

directly imply that Harris and Biden, with FAR more information and resources at hand than anyone else, were either incompetent or in on the fix, both of which are ludicrous and/or outrageous).

who would have had to be either complicit or incompetent

and the implied reasoning is offensive, as least it is for me.

Because Harris and Biden (and the whole Democratic party - in every state in the union) - - just walked away ...
From a clearly manipulated and fraudulent result. Each and every one willingly complicit ...

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - SIGH !

Welp, it's been a fun 48 hour revisit, but that "Oh right . . ." moment has arrived.

Hope you're doing great, Cel! Nice to "see" you again.

and our thousands of poll-watchers, counting monitors, lawyers, etc etc as either inept, incompetent, and/or in on the so-called rigging.

Just straight partisan id.

I used to read Reddit much more widely than I do, but it's leeching into some of the most innocuous subreddits now.

These people are going to drive me to a library, I tells ya.

I have no official explanation as to why the party "establishment" did not follow through with hand recounts.

Many of us suspected it was because "they" didn't want to look like the 'other guys". I have believed it was likely the democratic strategists and consultant class and "advisors" were a big part of this "stance".

I have explained several times on this forum. I believe the "other guys" have subliminally employed a kind of psy-ops that I call "reverse I know you are but what I am". These kinds of tactics are effective.

The Dems have been conned into thinking they can't look like the "other guys". People on this forum have told some of us (since the election) that we shouldn't question the election results, because it makes us look like the "other guys".

The term "election denier" has been used to debunk any legit questioning of elections. I posit it is a form of brainwashing.

I do not accuse Harris or Biden of any nefarious intent, if they were convinced not to pursue more info about election results. The tone was established when Gore and Kerry went along, because "we" are the guys who "play nice". I cannot get inside any of their heads. I can have an opinion that I wish they had done more, without accusing any of them of anything nefarious.

I said it before, and I'll say it again - I think the "party machine", handlers, advisors, strategists, and consultants are likely the source of the problem, IMHO.

All the DUers who believe we lost fair and square need to read what you had to say.

We know IQ4.7 has always cheated his way through life, had his sister do his homework, paid others to take
tests for him, got a doctor to lie about bone spurs, got 34 felonies because of lying, etc, etc, etc, etc

Why would he quit cheating because he wanted to be president?

"Why would he quit cheating because he wanted to be president?" To paraphrase Nancy Pelosi - all roads lead to cheating.

After using foia to get copies of the clerk’s records, they found 30% of the machines did not get tested , this is illegal and certainly not best practices

And btw why do we have the industry that sells the machines testing the machines?

Wouldn’t you think it would be an independent agency?