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GOP senators are no longer just whining about Arctic Frost, theyre now giving themselves the ability to file civil lawsuits over the faux controversy.
When the facts arenât in your favor ⦠replace the facts with lies.
— @jimrissmiller.bsky.social 2025-11-11T20:13:01.063Z
Republicans use spending bill to empower themselves to sue over phone records searches www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddo...
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/republicans-use-spending-bill-empower-sue-phone-records-searches-rcna243199
A spending package expected to be approved as part of a deal to reopen the government would create a wide legal avenue for senators to sue for as much as half a million dollars each when federal investigators search their phone records without notifying them. The provision ... appears to immediately allow for eight G.O.P. senators to sue the government over their phone records being seized in the course of the investigation by Jack Smith, the former special counsel, into the riot at the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021.
The Times report added that this element, which is now likely to become law, would require federal investigators to notify senators about phone records searches, except in instances in which members are themselves a target of an investigation.
The provision is retroactive to 2022, the Times noted......
The New York Times reported in early October, The analysis of phone toll records is a common investigative tactic. ... Such toll record information does not include the contents of conversations, which would require a court-approved wiretap.
A related analysis from CNN explained that there was nothing especially surprising about any of this.
We already knew that the phone records of some lawmakers were seized in Smiths probe, because the Justice Department had to overcome legal hurdles posed by the Constitutions Speech or Debate Clause. And its difficult to understand how Smith ever could have conducted such a probe without obtaining some phone records of lawmakers. Thats because Trumps pressure on lawmakers was a key part of his efforts to overturn the 2020 election. ... It would seem very difficult to piece together a case without understanding who was talking to whom, and when.
MSNBCs Ken Dilanian emphasized a related point, noting that the former special counsels final report, released earlier this year, made note of these same toll records.
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(173,008 posts)I am wondering how one can make this law retroactive?
Republicans have voiced outrage that Jack Smith looked at G.O.P. lawmakers phone records surrounding the Jan. 6 attack. Legislation to reopen the government would allow them to sue for $500,000 each.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2025/11/10/us/politics/senators-shutdown-smith-phone-searches.html?unlocked_article_code=1.0E8.cU57.ifmN9cWGUHoV&smid=tw-share
The provision would make it a violation of the law to not notify a senator if their phone records or other metadata was taken from a service provider like a phone company. There are some exceptions, such as 60-day delays in notification if the senator is considered the target of an investigation.
The language of the bill states that any senator whose Senate data, or the Senate data of whose Senate office, has been acquired, subpoenaed, searched, accessed, or disclosed in violation of this section may bring a civil action against the United States if the violation was committed by an officer, employee, or agent of the United States or of any federal department or agency.
Because the provision is retroactive to 2022, it would appear to make eligible the eight lawmakers whose phone records were subpoenaed by investigators for Mr. Smith as he examined efforts by Donald J. Trump to obstruct the results of the 2020 presidential election.
Each violation would be worth at least $500,000 in any legal claim, according to the bill language. The bill would also sharply limit the way the government could resist such a claim, taking away any government claims of qualified or sovereign immunity to fight a lawsuit over the issue......
The DOJ/Federal government will be the one paying these damages and I doubt that trump's DOJ will raise any real issues with respect to retroactive provisions of this law
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(173,008 posts)Senate Republicans empowered themselves to file lucrative Arctic Frost lawsuits, but House Republicans intend to take that power away.
GOP's Lindsey Graham says he'll 'definitely' sue over faux phone records controversy www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddo...
— Chrisby (@chrisbyc.bsky.social) 2025-11-13T16:52:35.689Z
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/gops-lindsey-graham-says-ll-definitely-sue-faux-phone-records-controve-rcna243711
Graham, who had his phone records seized, said Wednesday that he would definitely sue under the law. And if you think Im going to settle this thing for a million dollars? No, Graham told reporters in South Carolina. I want to make it so painful no one ever does this again.
He did not appear to be kidding.
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But before Grahams lawyers head to a nearby courthouse, they should probably take note of the fact that a whole lot of House members including plenty of Republicans arent pleased about the Senate GOPs gambit, and theyre eager to do something about it. Roll Call reported:
Speaker Mike Johnson announced plans to pursue legislation next week that would repeal a Senate provision in a major spending package that incensed House Republicans and threatened to prolong the partial government shutdown. The must-pass spending measure drew eleventh-hour objections from House members of both parties after the discovery in recent days of a provision that would allow senators to sue for at least $500,000 each when federal investigators search their phone records in a judicially sanctioned probe without notifying them.
In comments to reporters this week, the House speaker conceded the Senates provision was a really bad look, which his chamber intends to fix in a standalone bill.
