Even the Democrats have big money donors. If they want a change, he’ll be out of there.

because the primary job of both parties in the Senate is to protect big money.

They did this together, and are doing nothing to make next time any better.

They are all to blame. Even Bernie. This was a group action.

to be useless against Trump.

He either will retire at the end of the current term or lose to AOC in a primary.

Just watch the big donors line up against AOC.

Think about who votes in primaries. That is if Schumer doesn’t retire — he will be 78 years old in 2028.

while Congress was being denied access to Federal buildings - I was bitching. And I have been bitching ever since.

"We will win" as a message and chant did not match the status of the problem, at the time.

I said at the time, and since - don't get between Schumer and a microphone. And don't get between Maxine Waters and a microphone.

However, after my drunken rant last night, I'm going to tone it down and let the chips fall where they may.

They stick to your ribs.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/10182244258#post1

I'm going to get the ingredients for it and give it a go.
Thanks for the link.

Two kinds of humans that tell tge truth.

Children and drunks.

Neither are up for election in 2026, but I have a long memory and and tend to hold onto grudges. Neither will ever get another vote from me.

It's a fair bet.

In reality they're just living to run away another day.

"writing a sternly worded letter"

I have many times, esp this last year, wondered if we have passed the point of no return...........

This time, I am ready to throw in the towel, with great sorrow and regret...................

I have often wondered if these ****** have children, grandchildren, or just don't care about them. It is finally proven, the later.

It doesn't matter they have family money they know their family is secure.

The message of the Democratic Party "fighting" is a joke. When exactly will the Democratic Party fight? If they won't fight over a massive increase in the deficit due to tax cuts to the rich, paid for by devastating cuts to Medicaid and other essential programs, what will they fight for? Oh..I know..they'll fight for healthcare, the flagship ACA program that made healthcare available to millions. Yes, they'll fight for that.

Oh..nevermind.

Next is Medicare and Social Security.

I give up. We need a party overall or a third party.

about the plan for a few Democrats to capitulate to Republicans on the government shutdown.

https://newrepublic.com/post/202942/democrat-caved-shutdown-chuck-schumer-knew-shaheen

There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.
George W. Bush

We need fresh faces in the leadership, we need to get down to their level, sadly, and go toe to toe with the repigs.

I too, thought this was our time, especially after the drubbing we gave the repigs last Tues. only to throw it away.

Six fucking days later. For nothing.

Trump doesn't have as much at stake. His base is not rational.

Fool me 42 times? I think not!

Tuesday was a mandate to keep fighting. Instead we get capitulation. Re-fucking-tire you old washed up useless dotard

And he let us down.

I hope that Democrats can manage to get into a position in 26 where we can meaningly undo the dmage, or at least halt it. But this WAS the line. And he just let me walk over it with barely a word.

Disgraceful.

GOP are here for tax cuts and deregulations. They don't give a F if their rural red state constituents can afford healthcare or food. They would love to have a peasant class of desperate low wage workers facing starvation and death.

wage workers facing starvation and death on a silver platter. Courtesy of a group of Senate Democrats.

had all along. Just had to have us sit through a ridiculous political play first.

That's the key to why this all seems totally pointless. GOP in congress are not feeling the impact. They have been busy telling their constituents to blame us.

Like a repeating house of cards, you can always count on the Dems to collapse.

And the repukes know this.

But crazy as it might sound, wouldn’t been amazing if the Dems, you know, didn’t fucking collapse????

Because I can always count on Republicans to choose evil and blame us for it.

Good day

... to remind our elected officials that they work for us, and that their decisions must reflect the desires of their constituents. They do NOT get to just pat us on the head and tell us to run along and let the grownups discuss matters of state. It is their duty to keep us informed so that our decisions reflect facts on the ground, not a sanitized and watered down version of events concocted by unelected consultants.
We are not mushrooms to be kept in the dark and fed bullshit.
Conversely, it is our duty as constituents to pay attention when they do tell us what's going on in the halls of power, and to apply reason and logic to our responses when we convey our thoughts and desires to our aforementioned elected officials making decisions that might adversely affect the lives of millions. Like now.

We can believe now that 1) they aren’t and 2) they never have

Bang the gong

and it smore than schmer that needs to be replaced. basically ALL of the old guard needs to go. I know that the 8 dems arent seekign reelection but until there is a major overhaul of the democratic leadership il done

It was an unwinnable battle.

Honestly, what WAS the likelihood all 3 of these things would happen by prolonging the shutdown:
1. ACA subsidies pass the Senate
2. and pass the House
3. and Trump signs the legislation

Republicans have wanted to destroy the "Welfare State" for generations. If there was no realistic chance of saving the ACA subsidies by prolonging the shutdown, the consequence would be even more pain for the most vulnerable as the Project 2025 agenda advances.

It's easy to stand on principle if you don't rely on SNAP benefits to feed your hungry children.

Personally, I'm not currently impacted by the shutdown. Nobody in my extended family receives SNAP. I'm not a government employee working for no pay who is less likely to get back pay and more likely to be among the next mass layoff if not for the few concessions gained by ending the shutdown.

We can disagree about whether Trump and Republicans in the Senate & House were likely to concede and restore ACA subsidies.

But we want the same thing. I understand the frustration and anger at losing this battle, but in my opinion ending the shutdown was the least bad of two horrible options. Perhaps they should have waited to see how the lower court order to pay SNAP benefits finally played out in the Supreme Court -- but I'm not among the people going hungry in the meantime.

And I am furious. Everything these psychopath republicans want will make me suffer. I just hope I die before I get gassed in a chamber because I don’t want the fucking Nazis to have the satisfaction of murdering me. Must be nice to not care so much cause it isn’t affecting you.

There was no chance the Rethugs would vote to restore ACA subsidies.

But prolonging the shutdown would at least delay SNAP benefits, for how long no one knows.

It would also allow more mass layoffs of federal employees, crippling services the American people depend on.

Senate Democrats ended the shutdown to limit the damage to our government and help people struggling to afford food.

Durbin is retiring. Schumer isn't, more's the pity.

over the Big Billionaire Bonanza bill when they said "next up is the fight for healthcare" because they "really didn't want to vote for that part"?

How is this tone-deaf 'strongly worded comment' any different?

I'd say he needs to retire, but why? He gave them everything they wanted - maybe they'll help him round up voters for his primary next year.

These traitorous senators, their enablers and minders better have gotten rich from surrendering because they just ended their political careers and will have to live their lives HIDING in shame like Dick Cheney ‼️

Now pardon me while I surrender.... "

Thanks, Chuck! You're my hero!!!!!!!