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Thu Oct 2, 2025, 08:57 PM 7 hrs ago

For 'some' who believe it 'equally compelling' for Dems to emphasize Trump's power grab along with his health care cuts

MSNBC's Melissa Murray questioning Hakeem Jeffries today asked why Democratic leaders are emphasizing republicans' refusal to extend health care tax credits, a deliberate action by republicans which will double, even triple, some 22 million Americans' premiums without action by Congress - this tax credit temporary despite making most of Trump's 2017 tax cuts benefiting the wealthy permanent.

The host cited 'some' who believe it would be 'equally compelling' for the party to say they refuse to fund an administration and government bent on abusing its power. Why not do both?

First of all, they are doing just that.

In addition to the Democratic leaders' demand for the restoration of the health care tax credits, they are also demanding that Congress change the rescission provisions in the CR which allows the president to 'claw back' money that Congress agreed to and approved in bipartisan deals like this one they're seeking; only to have those funds to be snatched away later in a simple majority vote- making negotiations with republicans a farce and a con.

AOC with Chris Hayes, yesterday:

CH: The quick 10-second version for people that haven't followed this is that, you know, you need 60 votes to get the filibuster to appropriate funds for the government, but they can pass a rescission, which is to claw back some of the money already agreed to by 50 votes. So, they have this kind of like cake and eat it too model where it's like, oh yeah, we'll come together, we'll pass a bipartisan appropriations bill, and then when every when we've done that, then we'll go and get rid of the stuff we don't like, which just seems like an insane way to negotiate.

AOC: The mechanism by which a deal is locked is not just about agreeing in concept on tax credits. We need to do it with no tricks, no games, and no back doors, which includes rescissions. And when we talk about rescission, that is the mechanism that the federal government is using to gut and destroy rule of law across the board.

We are fighting to ensure that health care is protected for every American. But the way that we do that also means that the only way that you guarantee that is by forcing them to adhere to the rule of law, which means eliminating the recession loopholes that they put in in the CR earlier this year, which the Senate unfortunately had caved on then, and we're ensuring that doesn't happen now.


A broader point I'd like to make is that our legislators are the end game of the process of advocacy and activism, operating at the part of the democratic process in which all of our diverse interests and concerns from disparate regions of the nation are to be reconciled into legislative action.

One of the key organizers of the March on Washington, Bayard Rustin, wrote in his book, 'Strategies for Freedom, that for a movement to succeed it must have more than just volume; it needs to have a militant sense of responsibility. To transform agitation into action, he wrote, they need to have a legislative goal at the head of their protests and demands.

In effect, legislating health care tax credits in a budget resolution would seem to be well in line with something that these legislators can accomplish beyond just agitation, which is, effectively, our own enduring responsibility in this fight.
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For 'some' who believe it 'equally compelling' for Dems to emphasize Trump's power grab along with his health care cuts (Original Post) bigtree 7 hrs ago OP
You mean we CAN walk AND chew gum? Darn right we can!! pat_k 7 hrs ago #1
Yeah they should demand an end to the authoritarianism and misappropriating funds in places SSJVegeta 7 hrs ago #2
You have to keep it simple for people JI7 6 hrs ago #3

SSJVegeta

(1,620 posts)
2. Yeah they should demand an end to the authoritarianism and misappropriating funds in places
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 09:30 PM
7 hrs ago

Congress didnt approve.

In other words: let's keep the government shut down until the government agrees to follow the law.

Have trump reverse a few of his executive orders. First one being that he is the o ly one who can interpret the law. That'll be a good start.

JI7

(92,719 posts)
3. You have to keep it simple for people
Thu Oct 2, 2025, 09:55 PM
6 hrs ago

Those who have a problem with the power grab are already opposed to him. And getting into a discussion of it loses the audience.

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